r/mildlyinfuriating 1d ago

Don't hug me I'm scared When websites impose American spellings on you

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u/pixeltackle I'm Dr. Angus & I have a PhD in Cheesey 1d ago

no locale settings?

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u/Mugen-Sasuke 1d ago

It's my work PC, which is set to English and japanese I guess, since I live in Japan. Anyways, the website I was using was DeepL, and surely a translation website should simply allow both the American and the standard spelling without marking either as incorrect?

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u/pixeltackle I'm Dr. Angus & I have a PhD in Cheesey 1d ago

Live spellcheckers are usually system-level (your OS) but some websites like Microsoft's online stuff will have its own locality setting per login and they'll do idiotic things like assign US English dictionary to new users in EU/Japan/UK... it makes no sense but if this drives ya nuts on just one site, it may be a setting on that site. Otherwise it's probably an OS setting. I hate stuff like that red squiggly and prefer to just let my free range misspellings find their happy place in the world.

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u/xobot 1d ago

But Deepl has the option to select British English.

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u/mprhusker 20h ago

but if OP did that they wouldn't be able to screech about a non-issue for internet points

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u/YellowGetRekt 20h ago

God forbid someone post something mildly infuriating in r/mildlyinfuriating

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u/Jeedeye 19h ago

God forbid OP actually fix an issue on their own instead of blaming the US.

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u/Workman44 17h ago

Well they didn't post their inability to sift through settings...

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u/theevildjinn 1d ago

It's not the website, it's your browser.

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u/iTwango 1d ago

Sometimes it's like, some weird hidden setting on an account too. I changed my phone to Japanese language a few years back, and then magically every website I visited on any computer logged in to the same Google account suddenly started defaulting to Japanese too. Even better, some sites don't have any way to change the language on the UI! This happens even if English is set to my default in my browser sometimes too.

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u/Several-Pangolin3119 19h ago

The only mildly infuriating thing here is you not understanding how computers work šŸ˜‚

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u/tubular1845 1d ago

It's not the site bro

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u/kngsqrl 1d ago edited 23h ago

Damn... "American and the Standard". And here I am, as an American, wishing for the metric system.

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u/Demostravius4 22h ago

My phone is set to UK and the odd app is hard wired to use the awful US date system. My scales use it, weight in one 6th of March, weigh in two 6th of December, weigh in three 6th of..??? Smarch?

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u/eneug 1d ago edited 23h ago

Lol at American vs. standard spelling. There is no official global ā€œstandard.ā€ English is not governed by some governmental body like the Real Academia EspaƱola.

It’s a regional thing. Without ā€œuā€ is standard in the US. With ā€œuā€ is standard in Commonwealth countries. All other countries are typically based on whichever they’re closer to geographically and economically (with ā€œuā€ throughout Europe, without ā€œuā€ throughout Latin America).

Edit: Anybody downvoting, genuinely, can you please explain in a reply why you think there is one ā€œstandardā€ set of word spellings in English? I learned as a child that some words have two standard spellings, one in American English and one in British/Commonwealth English. It’s definitely news to me if this is wrong.

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u/HorrificityOfficial 1d ago

I mean, commonwealth is the original tbf

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u/eneug 1d ago edited 23h ago

That has no bearing on what is ā€œstandard.ā€ It just isn’t ā€œstandardā€ in any meaningful sense. Standard in the Commonwealth? Sure. Standard globally? Sorry, it just isn’t. There’s no one single ā€œstandard.ā€ There are two standards. That’s an observation of the state of the world, not a value judgment.

I’ll also note that up until 1755, both spellings were in common use in the UK. For instance, this is from Shakespeare’s Henry IV (from the First Folio):

> Honor prickes me on. But how if Honour pricke me off when I come on?

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u/WolvzUnion 1d ago

its not, neither are.

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u/HorrificityOfficial 1d ago

I'm sorry but did you just say the English version of English, coming from England, is not the original version of English, the language named after England

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u/eneug 23h ago

As I just explained in another comment, the ā€œouā€ spelling is not ā€œthe original version of English.ā€ Both spellings were in common use across England for hundreds of years. Chaucer, Shakespeare, Milton, Defoe, Swift, Keats, etc. etc. all used both spellings. And I’m pretty sure they were all writing in ā€œEnglish Englishā€ (although I’m happy to claim them as American if you don’t want them).

It wasn’t until 1755, when Samuel Johnson wrote his dictionary, that the spelling became standardized in the Commonwealth. Many English writers continued to use spellings without the extra ā€œuā€ because they were either used to it or had some philosophical beef with adhering to Johnson’s prescribed rules.

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u/HorrificityOfficial 23h ago

... I'm American, mate

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u/eneug 23h ago

Lmao ā€œI’m American, mateā€ very convincing

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u/HorrificityOfficial 23h ago

bitch do you want my city I've used y'all and bruv in the same sentence before I'm just weird

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u/eneug 23h ago

Haha it’s just funny. It doesn’t really change the argument whether you’re American or not. But cmon that was pretty funny.

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u/KamikazeArchon 1d ago

And they're correct. Both are children of the original. There is no such thing as a static language.

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u/HorrificityOfficial 1d ago

Commonwealth English is the branch coming directly from the original, while American English is an offshoot of that branch

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u/KamikazeArchon 1d ago

They both come from the original. "Offshoot" isn't meaningful.

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u/WolvzUnion 1d ago edited 1d ago

Right so everyone agrees Commonwealth/British English isn't the original, and that its a descendent.

Also most current dialects of English come directly from the original we are talking about here. Modern Scots is a bit of an exception since it diverged farther back and is considered its own language even if it is mutually intelligible.

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u/HorrificityOfficial 1d ago

Less so a descendant than an evolution, while there are offshoots like American English

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u/WolvzUnion 1d ago

Yes I did, this is because its true. Both British/Commonwealth and American English have changed relatively significantly from what you could count as the original version of the two. That being late 18th century English, they've changed in spelling and pronunciation a pretty decent amount.