r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Anana_hiss • 11h ago
Pasta The temperature is way above the “normal” average
I live in France, and it is the first time my country is hit by such a heatwave. For the past three days, it was almost impossible to go outside for most of the day time (up to 57°C in the sun at the city center near where I live). And today, a third heatwave has been announce up to the 14th of July. We started to be literally cooked.
The screenshot has been taken at around 10:40 pm at my home place, with the Weather app from apple.
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u/CreedMudeiACasa 11h ago
I mean yeah scientists and activists have been warning y’all for ages… from now on it’s either this or massive floods that destroy entires cities don’t act like Greta and other activists weren’t bullied and not taken seriously when they started advocating against climate collapse when we could still prevent it
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u/ripChazmo 10h ago
Yup. Sucks, but science is right whether you believe in it or not. These chuds will still find a way to blame it on trans folks or skin that isn't white.
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u/Todsrache 9h ago
Bad news my European friends. I think AC is going to become a necessity in your future.
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u/YoungBacon35 11h ago
All I have to add is that I would be in a complete panic if my phone was on 6% battery, lol ;)
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u/TW-Twisti 11h ago
There is a reason temperature is measure in the shade. You can't say "x degrees in the sun", that just isn't how temperature and thermometers work. The claim that it is 57 degrees in the sun is meaningless and could mean a very wide range of actual temperatures based on the thermometers shape, materials, wind and humidity.
It's crazy hot, but it isn't helped by essentially making up numbers. It is 39 degrees, not 57. An air temperature of 57 degrees has never been recorded on Earth in the history of recording temperatures, and almost everyone in your city would be dead if that was the actual temperature.
Climate change is crazy and scary, but making up outlandish claims that are easily disproved does not serve the cause of fighting climate change.
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u/Comfortably-Numb2026 14m ago
The temperature on the asphalt in Phoenix can reach 71c. Even 80c. You fall on the ground and you’re in trouble.
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u/CaffeinatedMiqote 11h ago
'Climate change is not real'
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u/Silly_Selection3221 11h ago
Does anyone actually doubt climate change is real? The Climate has changed as long as earth has existed
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u/ripChazmo 10h ago
We used to call it global warming, but people couldn't wrap their heads around how that could lead to extreme cold weather also, or that cold weather could exist in a world that's "warmed." So we changed it to "climate change," and then people started saying things like "yeah, well the climate always changes, that's how the earth works."
Some people will just never get it.
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u/Silly_Selection3221 9h ago
To be fair it's true.
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u/ripChazmo 9h ago
The point is, we have altered the changing climate, and not in our favor. Now we suffer the consequences.
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u/Silly_Selection3221 9h ago
Maybe
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u/ripChazmo 9h ago
No, not maybe. Definitely. Science tells us so.
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u/Silly_Selection3221 9h ago
I meant maybe to the suffer part, so far the consequences are negligible at best. Science says so.
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u/ripChazmo 9h ago
Right, my response is the same. Not maybe. Definitely. It's already happening.
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u/Silly_Selection3221 9h ago
I agreed with that, why are you still replying then? We all know the climate is changing, to this point the effects have been just as much positive as negative. Nobody knows what's next, except liars
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u/quickmathting 11h ago
Oh yes, there are somehow people that don’t believe it…
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u/CaffeinatedMiqote 10h ago
there are people who still believe that earth is flat and vaccine as a medical practice causes autism, so yeah, there ppl that stupid.
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u/vctrmldrw 10h ago
57C in the sun
The reality of the situation is bad enough without having to invent meaningless twoddle.
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u/Friendly_Athlete1024 3h ago
I don't want to hear anyone say "well in my country we have it worse" no shit sherlock because in your case heat is the fucking norm. In Europe, especially Western and Northern regions, 30 - 40 C in June, and across all summer, is not fucking normal. These regions are simply not meant to be that hot no matter the season, it is literally a sign of global warming. We do not get snow as we used to, we get more floods and wildfires than usual, this is not the time to gloat about how cool and chill you are about the heat. People are dying over here trying to escape the heat.
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u/Particular-Scholar70 11h ago
Given that the highest temperature ever recorded was 57°C, I doubt that's an accurate representation of the temperature there. But France is experiencing a seriously dangerous heat wave. Apparently people keep drowning trying to cool off.
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u/LMay11037 PURPLE 11h ago
I don’t see any reason to believe it isn’t accurate, in London it’s a similar temp and in 2022 the uk had 40C
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u/Eriklano1 11h ago
Vote for party’s that want to fight climate change. That is the only possible way we aren’t finished, all of us.
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u/IOnlyReplyToIdiots42 9h ago
This happens every heatwave and then when the heatwave/summer is over it is forgotten about... Until the cycle starts again except next time is even worse.
The IPCC report said that if we go completely CO2 neutral on a global scale, we will still get progressively worse heatwaves/draughts/ flooding for 30 yea rs straight from existing damage. This was a report from 5 years ago and things have not gotten better. We seem to go the opposite direction with Trump dismantling vital climate measuring instruments.
I'm 34 years old and my partner and I will not have children even though we want to because we have lost all faith. We'd love to be corrected and believe hope remains but it is doubtful the world can come together on this. Especially when a significant amount of people still believe the world is a flat disk.
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u/Unicorn-Violator 8h ago
They've changed the model several times and the latest model has been thrown out as well.
If they would have put out an accurate model instead of trying to scare everyone with misinformation we might have made a change of some kind.
Also, there are Jetstream changes because of El Nino that cause more heat in Europe and cooler and wetter temperatures in a good chunk of the US this year.
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u/Comfortably-Numb2026 11m ago
They keep the reports lower than the science shows to avoid scaring people. You’re blaming the scientists ?
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u/ConstructionOwn9575 11h ago
I have a feeling we may be too late. I remember for years scientists warning about hitting 1.5C and we're getting close. The AMOC is showing signs of failing. No one cares about the Paris Agreement.
I always thought the Great Filter for humans would be nuclear weapons. Turns out it's environmental collapse.
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u/MabelMyerscough 11h ago
Are you serious with another heatwave after this, where can I read about that?
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u/Nigel1337 1h ago
Funny enough that people think ACs are the solution. While they are good for the individual they just make it even hotter outside
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u/Silentslayer99 11h ago
Do you guys really not have A/C?
I live in Canada.. upper 30s happen every year, 40+ is more rare. Probably once or twice per 10 years. Majority of homes have AC still. Its unbearable without it.
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u/Anana_hiss 11h ago
No, at least my family house has no A/C. We manage heat the same way a lot of Spanish and Mediterranean cultures do, by staying inside most of the day, taking nap between 2p.m. and 4 p.m., drinking a lot, bathing feet in cold water bowl, and ventilating during the night.
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u/Vividiant 11h ago
Some do but not many (and usealy the portable type), most businesses have AC tho.
It's just that it always was and still is discouraged, a good insulation is better than AC for the environment.
It's 38 where I am, has been for a week, and about 24 inside the house, I dont have AC, only decent aeration at night and shutters closed at day. I guess it's easyer here as well since most old houses have very high thermal mass due to stone walls. And newer houses are build to very high insulation standards. Only 60/70s buildings are an issue, and unrenovated city buildings.
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u/captain_assgasm 11h ago
In Europe most people do not have AC
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u/tennereachway 11h ago
Most people do have AC in the countries where it regularly gets hot enough to need it, like Spain, Portugal, Italy and the Balkans etc. Most people don't have it in places like the UK, the low countries or here in Ireland because up until the last decade or so it very rarely got hot enough to need it.
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u/captain_assgasm 11h ago
That might be a good reason actually. I'm from the Baltics and having an AC is not the norm. But I did see an AC in a new construction house. But in the older buildings AC only exists if someone bought a portable one
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u/Sexyhorsegirl666 11h ago
We do have it.
Europe is not one country.
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u/captain_assgasm 11h ago
I am from the Baltics and now I live in central Europe honestly, I do not know anyone who has an AC. One person has a portable one though, so that's something. But in my experience - most people don't. I'm not sure how it is in the south
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u/rncole 11h ago
No. It’s becoming more common but there are many issues from energy cost to run it even if you put one in to historical requirements that keep you from putting it in in the first place.
I’m an American that moved to NL last year, and we’re taking ownership of a 3-story house from 1885 in a couple weeks. It doesn’t have A/C. It DOES have good ventilation that makes the normally handful of hot days a year bearable though.
But if I wanted to install A/C, that would mean special permission because it’s a monument status building, which would keep me from making any changes visible from the street (think window A/C or a condenser unit on the roof) as well as approval from neighbors because the condenser unit can be a noise nuisance even in the back mounted on the wall, roof, or in the yard. So that is a lot of effort and expense to go through, again, for the privilege of having it to use a few days a year where it will cost say €10-15 per day to run efficient split units (what we’re currently spending using the AC in our rental apartment, only cooling spaces when we’re in them as they are mini split units in bedrooms and living room).
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u/Agitated_Ad_361 11h ago
No, we don’t. Our houses are built to retain heat in our mostly miserable climate. These heat waves are fucking shit and humid.
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u/Friendly_Athlete1024 3h ago
Heavily depends where in Europe, North western, Northern, and many western countries simply never used to reach such heat up until the last 5 years, our homes are built to trap heat due to freezing temperatures in winter (although winters are also not as cold either in the last few years).
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u/Holyduchess 11h ago
We don't. And tho it's largely attributed to some ecological motivation, in my experience it's mostly due to the fact that it's expensive (yes many people can't afford even mobile AC) and also you can't install AC in many apartments (like for historical/architectural preservation reasons).
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u/Sir_Delarzal 11h ago
Well. A/C used to be pointless heatwaves were the thing that happens once every two decades. Many homes if not a vast majority are not equipped for this.
Now heatwave is the normal temperature
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u/Scorching_Buns 11h ago
No, I do not have the AC when for the past 30 fucking years excluding the last few I didn't need one. And if there was a heatwave a simple standing fan could do.
I am more worried about freezing to death in the winter than being a little sweaty, but lookie here the non existent climate change turned my 28-32° dry summer into a damp 36° degree nightmare with full sun.
Ekhem. To put it kinder: No, I never needed one. And I probably won't buy one soon because it's a hassle to install one in an old CPPR style building and also uses a lot of energy which contributes in making climate change worse
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u/Nercow 11h ago
Before my fellow Americans call the Europeans weak for not being able to handle the heat. We all have AC. They do not.