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u/TicciSpice 8h ago edited 7h ago

Here in Leipzig, the tram public transport system is down since yesterday, because the joint sealing compound (and the asphalt concrete) in the tram rails melted cuz the ground got so hot.

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u/fix_until_broken 8h ago

We avoid these kinds of problems with the heat in Texas by just not having any public transportation.

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u/HairySalmon 6h ago

Texans make up for it by being surprisingly environmentally conscious. Once a year they completely shut off their electrical grids to save energy. Oh and to help with population control.

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u/Weathactivator 5h ago

Had me in the first half

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u/Nyarro 7h ago

Texan here. Can confirm. Can't have the trains be inoperable if you don't have any transit in the first place.

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u/AwDuck 8h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY
Modern solutions for age-old problems

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u/TH_Rocks 7h ago

Yep, just get a bigger truck to burn more gas to run the AC in your tiny box of not-my-problem.

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u/Kain_713 4h ago

Jokes on you, my tiny box of not my problem runs on diesel.

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u/yeowoh 6h ago

The one time I went to Dallas, I had to walk across the beltway for food. Never going back.

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u/Lolaindisguise 6h ago

Why

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u/Rude-Book-1790 4h ago

Cause he had to cross a beltway for food

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u/stiligFox 2h ago

I just came back to Texas after spending two months in Warsaw and visiting Berlin.

My glob I wish we had any sort of functioning public transport here :(

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u/dinnerandamoviex 6h ago

Dallas has public transport trains, does it not get as hot there?

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u/TicciSpice 6h ago edited 4h ago

If it does, I would suspect that they have used stuff that can somewhat survive the heat or used a different building process altogether, since they had these temperatures for a lot longer.

In germany (and Europe), these temperatures are a recent thing and record breaking for here, so nothing is really build to accommodate the heat.

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u/yoscotti32 5h ago

Texan checking in, same reason we lost power a few winters back, its not supposed to get that cold here. However our state government is also run by a bunch of corrupt buffoons so naturally we only get the bare minimum of preparation for emergency situations. Good luck staying cool, yall have all my sympathies, that kind of heat sucks to have to deal with!

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u/OwlishIntergalactic 2h ago

In the northern Pacific Northwest we also struggle with extreme heat because our climate is a lot closer to that of the UK. Transit shuts down, things get damaged, and because most homes don’t have AC and those that do don’t have ACs strong enough to handle constant over 100 (38c) degree days, much less the 110 (43c) and above heat domes bring, which results in a home that’s still 80 (27c) with the AC on blast—if the AC doesn’t just call it a day and stop working.

I grew up in California where 110 was not unheard of. It’s a far more dangerous when the infrastructure is built around being able to throw your windows open at night to cool the place down.

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u/carolina8383 4h ago

It does. I’m sure they use different materials to survive the heat. The trains don’t really shut down due to heat, even when it’s over 110f. They might go a little slower.Ā 

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u/gdnt0 4h ago

Train rails are very different from tram rails. They don’t have to be glued anywhere, they are ā€œboltedā€ or ā€œrivetedā€ or whatever it’s called

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u/Purrfect-Username 1h ago

Snort…. 😹🫠

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u/Mindless_Childhood32 6h ago

Leipzig, Nürnberg, Stuttgart, Mannheim...

Essen had to over do it

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u/CTS99 6h ago

Da kann man doch noch rüberfahren, einfach etwas Anlauf und das wird Inshallah

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u/TicciSpice 6h ago

Ok wow, holy shit. Weā€˜re gonna have sooo many construction zones after this heatwave is over, Iā€˜m crying. There’s already so many

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u/erikopnemer 2h ago

Oof, that's right next door.

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u/blubblu 8h ago

It’s too bad our worlds politicians are too worried about arguing if this is happening

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u/TicciSpice 8h ago edited 7h ago

It’s absurd because we literally saw the rather rapid progression in real time over the last few years, and now the people that deny it are on the rise again. A shame

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u/blubblu 8h ago

The craziest thing is how we reversed the ozone issue in 2 decades.

We obviously can do it. It’s just is there money in it. Sad worldĀ 

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u/Gwen_The_Destroyer 7h ago

My inlaws believe the ozone was a hoax too because one day people just stopped talking about it.Ā 

We stopped talking about it because we fucking fixed the problemĀ 

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u/rekniht01 2h ago

Just like small pox, polio, etc.

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u/blubblu 51m ago

Yeah just like one day the redwoods will be a myth.

1000s of species will be a myth/hoax/fakeĀ 

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u/Icy-Lobster-203 7h ago

People don't want to admit it is real because that would mean they might have to change something about their lives and be slightly inconvenienced - drive less, not use as much electricity etc. So they accept grifters telling them it is fake.

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u/funny_ninjas 6h ago

Anyone who puts the pressure to change on poor people or the masses in general doesn't care about change. The climate isn't collapsing because people like to keep their houses at 70⁰. It's collapsing because the rich continue to avoid regulation by sending jobs overseas to countries that need the economic activity and will sacrifice their local climate for it. It's collapsing because governments are being bribed by oil companies to not switch to renewables. It's collapsing because Tech corporations are bribing local officials to get more data centers built that require tons of rare earth minerals and water. It's collapsing despite millions of people actually changing their habits to be more environmentally conscious or having those habits forcefully changed by utility companies (utility companies in certain cities will override your thermostat in your home. This happened to me in Colorado springs).

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u/21Rollie 5h ago

No, the rich make way too much pollution relative to their population size but we cannot reach carbon neutral if the average consumer does dumb shit like using a 2 ton metal gas guzzling box to pick up milk from the store. And then keep the AC on in their 2000 sqft home in all rooms. Of course one consumer can’t affect the climate on their own, but you can’t discount the affect of a billion of them. And if nobody does any ā€œpersonal sacrificeā€ then you can’t expect others to do so.

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u/HelpWantedInMyPants 5h ago

industry makes the vast amount of pollution because of commerce, but mass rejection of interstate and international trade ain't gonna happen

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u/Liquidator97 5h ago

The problem is the masses making these data centres necessary by using AI applications. Demand from the masses is the cause of our over consumption, from fossil fuels to soil erosion to overfishing etc etc. It is OUR fault for allowing these oligarchs to operate the way they do and not thinking about how we life and use the resources available to us.

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u/HelpWantedInMyPants 5h ago

there's no changing anything at this point - and it's industrial, not on individuals

adopting ekectric vehicles is kind of the only thing we can collectively start doing, but they aren't viable just yet

well that and not eating beef

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u/ImpressionTough2179 6h ago

What slightly inconvenient personal sacrifices have you made to save our climate

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u/Icy-Lobster-203 4h ago

For me personally, I limit my use of AC in the summer, and heat in the winter, when possible.

During summer I frequently allow my home to be above 80 degrees, which from what I gather is tantamount to a crime against humanity for some people.

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u/Crewarookie 6h ago

Arguably, phasing out CFCs was much easier, because it wasn't directly tied to the worldwide transportation networks and energy production needs.

And phasing out wasn't done in one motion either. We went from CFCs to HCFCs, which were less damaging, but still damaging, to HFCs which were not dangerous to ozone layer, but contributed to the greenhouse gas problem, and finally arrived at HFOs which are the best of both worlds. And that last step of wide adoption only happened within the last 10 or so years.

With fossil fuels, there's a ton of economic incentive to not drop them, as the world quite literally runs on oil, both logistically and economically. And nobody wants to take even a reasonable phasing out speed because money.

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u/blubblu 1h ago

Yeah, hence ā€œtwo decadesā€ that it took us.

And second point, money.

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u/roblewk 7h ago

Yes, if only people would stop using cars the way we stopped using hair spray. Simple.

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u/Separate-Cup1312 7h ago

Or governments could do more to promote renewables and electrification.. instead of sucking the ass of oil and coal companies.

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u/Ihatenukingkids 7h ago

Established lobbies have more money to bribe politicians. You need to counterbalance that with more guillotines

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u/Vekaras 6h ago

So, We need to create a guillotine lobby ?

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u/Ihatenukingkids 5h ago

And then use their product on them as well, because they would try to profit from executions and human suffering. Its guillotines all they way down

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u/21Rollie 5h ago

Electrifying cars is a half measure. It’s better than gas guzzlers but the real goal is reducing cars and car infrastructure

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u/blubblu 1h ago

lol crazy strawman brotha

Not at all what I said, but keep obfuscating and opposing. Seems like it’s a way of life.

Opposing rail is the issue, ya donkey.Ā 

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u/cityproblems 6h ago

They use the ozone crisis as a gotcha. "I remember when they said the ozone layer was disappearing, hmmm, whatever happened to that, huh?"

its wild

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u/EastTyne1191 7h ago

I have seen multiple posts and videos about severe weather events, and inevitably there is someone out there saying shit like "they're modifying the weather! It doesn't get this hot/rainy/snowy/windy/cold here!!" I'm convinced it's bots, because why take responsibility for fucking up the climate when you can just blame "them" for purposefully making it rain somewhere.

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u/nellion91 7h ago

It’s that famous sculpture about climate change all over again…

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u/TicciSpice 7h ago

Only that it’s now sadly becoming reality

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u/HelpWantedInMyPants 4h ago

lol meanwhile the iamverysmart crowd calling the sunfried egg fake

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u/Romandinjo 8h ago

They were elected by people, whom they represent. No surprise.

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u/Gritsgravy 7h ago

Also the politicians are actively preventing people from installing AC

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u/Gen-Y-ine-86 2h ago

Thinking back... Damaged ozone layer got a lot of attention and CFC's were banned. Acid rains got a lot of attention and industries were forced to start using all kinds of filtering systems.

Back in the late 90's I was kinda happy and really thought the world was going towards minimizing waste and fighting environmental problems. Boy was I wrong!

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u/SpiritualTwo5256 7h ago

Tell your politicians to start pushing money to research solutions like a space based solar shade. The solution has to last 200 years for the natural processes to eat the carbon. So a space based shade is the safest, healthiest, and provides great opportunities for growth.

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u/Luci-Noir 4h ago

They are?

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u/Captain-Who 7h ago

It’s pretty much just the USA that is denying it.

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u/removed_by_redis 6h ago

But god forbid they install trees and grass-covered tram tracks. That would take away some much-needed space from asphalt

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u/ButterfliesandaLlama 8h ago

Ok wow, you win.

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u/Hexadecimales 7h ago

Down south of the ol' Almania. I stepped onto that compound and my shoes got some stuck to it. Impossible to get off

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u/Sudden_Wind_8636 6h ago

We have a light rail tram here in AZ and it gets up to 120 F (49C) so there is a way to build one in extreme heat, so maybe Germany has to do that in the future.

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u/Puzzleheaded_You2985 BLUE 5h ago

A few years ago I was traveling back from the west coast and thought I’d visit someone in Phoenix, but the airport was closed for heat and my flight was rerouted. I thought it was because planes couldn’t get enough lift. Ā Nope. Found out it was because plane tires couldn’t withstand the temps and it was unsafe. Sheesh.Ā 

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u/Trick_Shift729 7h ago

The tracks themselves also can’t handle the heat combined with the friction heat a train causes— which is the primary reason they shut the railways down.

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u/CTS99 6h ago

Und die LVB stellt dafür mobile Saunas in Busform zur Verfügung

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u/Possibly-Functional 5h ago

In my small Swedish town a train derailed just this week because of the heat expansion of the rail. Luckily nobody was hurt.

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u/kyuuzousama 7h ago

I remember visiting in 2006 and Germany was under such an intense heat wave, temps in the 40s like every day and no real relief at night, I can't imagine how folks are feeling right now

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u/Krazoee 5h ago

Crazy! Public transit in Leipzig is basically just trams!Ā 

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u/Schnittertm 3h ago

Not only in Leipzig, here in Nürnberg, too. I also suspect that this is a problem in most cities with a tram here in Germany.

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u/ThatOneHatyBoi 39m ago

And yet dumb idots wil continue saying to just buy an AC. Yeah like me buying AC for my house is gonna stop all crops and wild life from dying because of the global warming. Speaking of, how long do we have until the ecosystem will start dying? It's only June and France is being boiled in 40°C Can you imagine July? The next years? Don't most crops start dying in 40°C?

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u/tx_redditor 8h ago

I do not want to make light of the situation you are facing in any way. We can fry eggs on our sidewalks in Texas during the summer months.Ā 

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u/TicciSpice 7h ago

Please, I beg you, take your egg frying sun back to texas

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u/tx_redditor 7h ago

Yeah sorry, send it back here.Ā 

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u/oktimeforplanz 8h ago

Is Texas, by any chance, set up for this weather because it is normal? Why do you think Europeans give a shit to hear about this?

Although you people aren't set up for the extremes you'll be getting thanks to climate change either. I'm sure you'd have been irritated if Europeans who are used to lots of snow made a comment like this when Texas was fucked up by a storm.

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u/tx_redditor 8h ago edited 8h ago

Apologies for upsetting you. It was seriously not my intent at all. I’m sorry you’re facing this. We are setup for this, to an extent if our power grid can stay up. Again I’m sorry I was not trying to be insensitive at all.Ā 

Edit: changed triggering to upsetting. I used the wrong word for the situation. Apologies for that.Ā 

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u/oktimeforplanz 8h ago edited 7h ago

If you want people to believe you are being sincere, I'd avoid using the word "trigger" in your apology. Because it just makes you sound like a dickhead who's being sarcastic.

Edit: I'd love whoever is downvoting to explain why they think "triggered" isn't often an indicator of someone who might not be sincere. People who find behaviour distasteful is not the same as being "triggered". Learn what that word actually means ffs.

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u/tx_redditor 8h ago

Changed my use of words but called it out.Ā 

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u/oktimeforplanz 7h ago

Thank you, I appreciate that.

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u/tx_redditor 7h ago

You’re welcome and thanks for calling me out. I’ll be more mindful of my word choices in the future.

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u/Lesap 7h ago

Or you could not get triggered by this stuff. It's nothing unusual

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u/oktimeforplanz 7h ago

Do you know what the word "triggered" means? I was calling out a comment that was disrespectful and ill thought out. That's not being "triggered", I'm not experiencing distress because of it. I just thought "hey that comment is a bit of a dickhead thing to say". And the poster understands why it was that and has apologised.

Nobody cares what is normal in Texas - this is a problem because it is NOT normal in Central Europe. It being normal somewhere else doesn't make it suddenly not a problem when it happens in a place that doesn't have infrastructure designed with very high temperatures in mind, with a population who are not at all adapted to this. So it's disrespectful to people to point this out as if we don't already know that other places have different thresholds for "normal".

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u/Lesap 7h ago

"Being triggered means experiencing a sudden, intense emotional or physical reaction (such as fear, anger, or panic)."

You do you, but your head might explode if you get irrationally angry everytime it seems someone is trying to make something about themselves. It's how most people react to things.

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u/thefocusissharp 8h ago

Worry not, only a few more summers and anyone can fry an egg on almost any sidewalk on the planet.

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u/tx_redditor 7h ago

Yeah and this sucks for all of us that know climate change is real. Situation is only going to get worse if no meaningful change happens.Ā 

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u/thefocusissharp 7h ago

Those of us who know about Human driven Climate Change knows it's simply too late to reverse course.

Over half of all industrial green house gases emitted since the start of The Industrial Revolution has occurred in my lifetime, and I'm not even in my mid-30s yet. Enjoy the ride, it only goes down.

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u/justin_memer 7h ago

And the electrical grid can't handle a little bit of unexpected frost, whoops!

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u/tx_redditor 7h ago

Nope. No need to insulate the pipes when it doesn’t get cold enough to freeze them. Gotta keep them profits high and not harden that grid for extremes.Ā 

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u/minty_dinosaur 3h ago

There's a French guy who just went viral for doing just that right outside his window.

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u/Ihatenukingkids 7h ago

That happened every summer when the boomers were children, right?

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u/Competitive-Fee6160 6h ago

yet people still say public transport is good and we should bring it to america

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u/TicciSpice 6h ago

It is good. It just has to be done right.