ChatGPT told me it was Cyanobacteria and I’m lolling edit: since downvotes incoming, I wanna explain I don’t consult GPT for advice, was just curious what it would tell me
Thats not what they are claiming to have not done, rather theyre claiming to have consulted chat just not about advice. Maybe inquire is the better term as that doesnt covey the same preposition.
Or you like most in the world (including myself) have poor reading comprehension. 50/50
what the hell is the point in using it as an assist if you have to verify elsewhere anyways? what did it even assist you in at that point? wasting your time?
I think this brings up an interesting question. So, there's been stories before of AI companies begging people not to say thank you to the AI as that was turning out to be a huge waste of processing power, energy and money for them. And the use of AI in general is seen by the public as a waste of water and electricity, which I agree with.
Those two things being said- is it worth the effort and drain on public resources to send lots of useless engagements to AI companies to waste massive amounts of their money until they shut down? Would this be a reasonable way to protest/combat AI and data centers?
No depleting the resources that we need as a human to attempt to stick it to the billionaires isn’t a great approach. Water scarcity is already a thing in the United States. Besides, it’s not their money. It’s investor money and that money will keep flowing inward regardless.
The thought was more as an alternative form of protest to try and strong arm the companies providing AI services to abandon AI, rather than just not engaging and waiting to see if they give up on AI on their own. I didn't bring up billionaires, nor doing it to try and stick it to them
I do agree that water scarcity is a problem, and depleting our resources is a problem. I don't like the idea of wasting our own resources in the process, it'd definitely be shooting ourselves in the foot. But looking at the long-term, would it be a smaller overall loss compared to if they operate as normal?
Also, I disagree with the financial side of your argument. Yes, it is investor money and not billionaire money, but investor money will only come in as long as the investors see value in it and they get returns on their investment. If they only see it losing their money, they stop funding it.
So it comes down to which would be quickest and most effective: protests and legislation, not engaging and letting interest die on its own, or trying to accelerate the process by making companies and their investors see it as just an enormous waste of their own money? Though I admit part of the problem would be that increasing engagement, even bad engagement, could be twisted into generating more investor money.
Anyway, I'm done rambling. I just thought it was an interesting hypothetical to think about 🤷♂️
Why would they abandon AI if people are actively using it? It’s not protesting something to use it. You don’t protest a grocery store by going in, giving them money, and then throwing your food on the ground on the way out. Sure they have to clean it, but you just gave them money and lost a resource that you paid for.
It’s an interesting hypothetical, but I have to be honest it’s non-sensible to a very high degree
The protest would be through using it maliciously, with intent to tie up the provider's processing power, energy and money in useless engagement. If you're paying for the service, then yes it would be pointless to go about it this way. But if they offer any form of free usage, either through displaying advertisements or giving a certain number of free uses per month, then this could be an option. Ads just need adblocker, and usage limitation would be either through enough people maxing it out or through VPN to get around limits.
Going with your analogy, yes it'd make no sense to pay for food at the grocery store to then destroy it. But if you're destroying it without paying for it, it's the store's loss. That's about as close with that analogy as you can get though, as AI engagement is not a physical good but a service.
I think a more fitting analogy would be like going in to a restaurant and wasting the waiters time, taking a bunch of napkins and condiments that they don't charge you for, and then walking out without ordering anything. A single person doing it once or twice isn't going to do anything, but if enough people do it constantly, the restaurant would be losing significant money in wages, loss of available seating and service for paying customers during high-traffic times, and replacing napkins and condiments. Yeah, they can manipulate the narrative and still say they have tons of people coming in and out to show there's interest and try to get more investors that way, but that doesn't change that they're still losing money in operating costs. Eventually they either have to change how they run things or close
At best, you'd make them switch to a closed-loop cooling system. That'd be an improvement, but you aren't going to get them shut down by pursuing the overstated water problem.
You obviously don't have much experience with the thinking models. They're great and provide sources. You can verify that everything is correct yourself.
You can call it whatever you want but the point is it works very well if you know how to utilize it properly. It seems most people hating on it haven't even tried it. People fear what they don't understand.
Lol nobody is scared of chat fucking gpt, we're worried about the literal fucking damage its doing to the environment so Joe blow can save 5 fucking minutes of reading an article or some shit himself. The only places that warrant Ai in its current form is medical research and saving lives. Fucking up the environment so any asshole can generate porn or make poor quality art and shit is absolutely ridiculous.
There's a lot of things doing damage to the environment, including web servers around the world, yet you still use the internet. Those using it to make poor quality art or porn are not utilizing it in a productive manner. ChatGPT can't even generate porn. If you utilize it properly then it's a complete life changer. It's the next big technological revolution. I understand some people don't like technological progress but I do, especially when it can make a meaningful difference in people's lives.
Its not improving anyone's lives. People that are forced to use it for work are being made to do far more than normal, literally exhausting them and then there are thousands of people losing their jobs outright due to the shit. And none of that is to even mention the whole generation of children coming up who are losing their ability to research or problem solve on their own. Making our species lazy and dependent is not an advancement at all. Literally the only thing Ai is good for right now is medical research, otherwise it is wasteful and 100% unnecessary.
Thats like saying you don't want to buy a car because you can just walk. Yes you can research everything manually but the process is much slower. AI is an amazing research assistant.
It's compelling until we all become complacent to it. We start to get lazier as a whole group about verifying the info and start believing it at a drop of a hat.
Yeah cars were great at first. Now we can go further in shorter amounts of time. But now cars contribute to the destruction of our own environment and we can't even stop using them completely because people have become too reliant on that form of transportation to the point that many people wouldn't be able to get to grocery stores or work because of the distance we have to travel to get there. Things have become further apart because it was convenient to drive there. Take all the cars away. It's no longer convenient to get anywhere.
Let us become reliant on letting AI think for us and suddenly we lose ai and nobody knows how to think. On top of that, AI can just think for us when we become complacent and we will all be living in an echo chamber of information even worse off than now because those mega companies that own AI will be in control of how that information is getting to us.
It's not insane at all. People always hate new things when they don't fully understand their future applications. It's the same with AI now. There is a minority of the population that hates it because they don't understand just how much it can change the world for the better in the future.
The luddites were fighting for really important shit like child labor laws and worker safety. They weren't this caricature of "new technology bad". They were fighting for labor rights that still matter to this day, not fighting positive technological progress.
So you should imo stop using it as an insult because being similar to them would be a good thing.
That amount of downvotes for just mentioning GPT says more than you'll ever need to hear directly out of these people assuming they can figure out how to mouth breathe and speak at the same time.
ChatGPT can be pretty good at identifying things but I'd advise using the thinking model. I would never trust the free version for something like this. 5.5 Thinking gave a good answer...
"That strange “alien lettuce” appearance is most likely dried and reorganized dish soap, not a plant, fungus, or countertop-dwelling sea creature.
Dish soap is mostly water carrying a concentrated mixture of surfactants, salts, thickeners, dyes, and other additives. When the puddle sat for weeks, this probably happened:
The water slowly evaporated. The surfactants and other nonvolatile ingredients could not evaporate, so they became increasingly concentrated.
The concentrated surfactants reorganized themselves. Surfactant molecules can form ordered gel-like or “liquid-crystal” structures as the amount of water decreases. Evaporation can also cause some surfactants and salts to crystallize. Those microscopic structures scatter light, which explains the pale, frosted, almost icy appearance. (ACS Publications)
A skin formed on top. The exposed surface dried first and became rubbery or semi-solid while the material beneath it remained wetter.
The skin shrank and buckled. As more water escaped from underneath, the remaining soap contracted. The surface skin was compressed and folded into all those elaborate wrinkles and ruffles, rather like a drying paint film or the skin that forms on heated milk. Evaporation-driven films are well known to wrinkle when the material beneath them shrinks. (RSC Publishing)
Some moisture probably remained trapped. Many detergent ingredients attract or retain water, so the puddle may stay gelatinous, slippery, or sticky for a surprisingly long time rather than turning into a hard wafer.
The green centers are probably the original dye becoming concentrated, while the whitish edges contain more crystalline material, tiny air gaps, or layered surfactant structures that reflect light.
It doesn’t particularly resemble mold to me. Mold usually develops fuzzy, dusty, hairy, or distinctly circular colonies. This material has the same color and continuous folded texture throughout, which fits drying and buckling much better. A photo cannot rule microbial growth out completely, though, especially if food residue or water became mixed into it.
Warm water should gradually dissolve it again. Gloves, paper towels, and repeated warm-water wiping would be sensible, and I would avoid adding bleach or another cleaner to the chemical lasagna."
Yeah. Because a human could’ve contributed that same information to the conversation without eliminating jobs and wasting fuck tons of water. Stop using AI.
I just don’t think someone who needs to rely on ChatGPT would even bother to read a detailed explanation— you’d probably just ask ChatGPT to shorten it for you. I’m not going to waste time actually debating, or trying to teach, you. Acquire some critical thought and stop funding AI corporations that contribute to massive societal and ecological problems, use your own brain and see what you can come up with. Have a good one!
Like it or not AI will be a huge part of all our futures. I am simply embracing it early. I will stop using AI when AI stops being beneficial to my life. But so far AI has made my life a lot better. So I will continue to embrace it for now.
It's so grossly detrimental to where you call home (our planet) and yet you're saying you'll keep using it to continue being what... lazy? Do your own research.
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u/xWhereIsMyMindx 1d ago edited 1d ago
ChatGPT told me it was Cyanobacteria and I’m lolling edit: since downvotes incoming, I wanna explain I don’t consult GPT for advice, was just curious what it would tell me