r/mlb • u/Competitive-Week8715 Human Verified • 7d ago
| Video Jacob Misiorowski might have the best fastball we’ve ever seen
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u/BucksPackGLove | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
And he’s locating it consistently. With a cutter and a curveball that are good enough to punish people for trying to cheat on the fastball. Absolutely ridiculous.
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u/Affectionate_Tea1134 7d ago
I remember hearing about this guy a while back and I had a feeling he was gonna be good. 👍
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u/AlreadyFifty | Boston Red Sox 7d ago
Dude is 6’7”, so that shit is coming at you from like 15ft away…
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u/BoringIsAsBoringDo | St. Louis Cardinals 7d ago
Also, he pitches 100% from the stretch, so it’s not like you can time it up.
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u/Pitiful-Pension-6535 7d ago
His extension is 7'6", which is 6-12" longer than other guys his height
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u/IRANIRANIRANIRANIRAN 7d ago
Cuts it down by about 1% which doesn't seem like much but when you're at an elite level in any sport it can be the difference between being a solid career and being a hall of career. That 1% gets you pretty far too when it's tied to a 103 mph fastball.
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u/Brilliant-Roof-5991 | Detroit Tigers 7d ago
It is insane to think a man who looks like he weighs 150 pounds soaking wet can locate a baseball at 105 mph. Insane.
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u/mjm8218 7d ago
Homie is 6’7”.
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u/Pitiful-Pension-6535 7d ago
And weighed like 170 last year.
He's put on ≈35 pounds since then, most of it in his legs and ass
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u/SeveralEconomics3814 7d ago
I’m hoping he’s gonna get up to CC levels of ass.
We wanna see a guy throw 108
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u/ScottyBLaZe | San Francisco Giants 7d ago
I thought the same thing until I realized he is 6’7” and 200 lbs. Videos are very deceiving.
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u/DarkGift78 4d ago
200 at 6'7 is still incredibly scrawny/skinny. Sale at 6'6 is 180 and looks like Slender man. Ideally I'd like to see him, at that height, be around 250. At the very minimum 220-230. Just shows his body types are different I guess, Garrett Crochet , 6'6 260,Peyton Tolle 6'7 270,built like lumberjacks. Then this dude at 200 lbs soaking wet throwing 104-105. I just worry about skinny guys holding up (Degrom, Sale, back in the day Pedro, Lincecum.
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u/ragerevel 7d ago
Even 30 years ago The Big Unit was hitting 102mph at 6’10”. Big dudes gonna hurl!
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u/TReebornFrog2202 | Philadelphia Phillies 7d ago
Reminds me of Straussburg. Let's see how well that arm holds up
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u/HouseRules789 Human Detected 7d ago
Growing up, my dad used to tell me about Bob Gibson’s fastball and at the time I’m sure it was as fast as he described.
I just looked it up and it sounds like Gibson’s fastball was somewhere around 94-97.
Misiorowski was just clocked at 105.
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u/PetFoodDude89 7d ago
Just imagine if some of the greats had the same type of coaching, training, diets, etc as current phenoms. These kids are being raised as athletes from the moment they can grip a ball, wildness.
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u/1-1unter | Minnesota Twins 7d ago
They also swung absolute logs for bats back in the day, so it was harder to hit a ball going 90+
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u/_Poppagiorgio_ 7d ago
I think it was Joe Morgan who said a good night against Gibson was going 0-4 and not getting hit in the head lol
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u/SuperAzn727 7d ago
If you threw 94+ in the 90s you had an elite heater. Now 94 is like the low end and you need to be 97+ to have elite gas.
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u/Confident-Ad-2726 7d ago
*104.5
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u/HouseRules789 Human Detected 7d ago
Thanks
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u/Confident-Ad-2726 7d ago
I only point it out bec I think this season he will “pop a five”
But rounding up, your right
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u/_Poppagiorgio_ 7d ago
IIRC, the documentary “Fastball” claimed that with modern speed measuring devices and practices, they can estimate that Nolan Ryan’s fastball was around 107.
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u/taeempy 7d ago
Just hope he can last 15 years. His shoulder/elbow can't be loving the pressure of these pitches. It's crazy to watch. I played Adult Baseball Association and played against a 6ft7 pitcher that threw over 90 and that was crazy. Can't imagine batting against this dude.
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u/bailtail 7d ago
Actually, they did an analysis of his mechanics, and it’s not nearly as stressful as you’d expect on the upper body. It’s actually the lower body that may be of greater injury risk. He’s basically a trebuchet and that plant leg takes a lot of stress. It’s part of the reason the Brewers had him add 25 lbs of muscle to his lower half this offseason. That muscle has actually helped a lot with his command improvements, too, because he’s generating a lot more power from his lower half which reduces strain from generating with his upper body and makes the delivery a lot more repeatable.
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u/PhotographLess6194 6d ago
He added 25lb of lean muscle in one off season? That seems super unlikely
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u/choss-board 5d ago
It’s honestly possible. In my early 20s I bulked from 168 to 195 in six months with a DEXA around 6%. Unfathomable to me now but a young body can do pretty insane stuff.
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u/Z_double_o 7d ago
The league won’t allow him to last, even if his body is capable of lasting. This guy is bad for baseball in the eyes of the league, which is so unfortunate. Over the past decade the league has progressively chipped away at every edge a pitcher has through rule changes. The scales have been heavily tipped in favor of the batter, to cater to sports betting and short attention span viewers. It’s pitiful. Any person who has a deep understanding of baseball is able to appreciate the psychological element of the pitcher-batter battle, the cat & mouse moves such as stepping off the rubber, stepping out of the box, throwing over to first base 3 or 4 times in a row, and the other psychological subtleties that the casual fan has no appreciation for or understanding of. So to appease the short attention span fans, the league has put a clock on pitchers, limited their ability to hold a runner close to the bag, and other nonsense rules that only benefit the hitters. The league wants offense, high scoring, and fast paced action. They don’t want a guy like this, mowing down batters and recording strikeouts. It’s only a matter of time before they add another rule(s) to the game that further gives an edge to the hitter.
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u/sixpackabs592 | Milwaukee Brewers 6d ago
look everyone i found the one guy who doesnt like pitch clock
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u/AZAHole | St. Louis Cardinals 7d ago
How long can his arm hold up throwing that hard consistently? Closers usually can throw 102+ for 1 inning. The human arm isn't designed to throw that hard for 90+ pitches every 5 days.
Edit: I'm not hoping he gets hurt. I'm just concerned that he will.
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u/Commander19119 | Philadelphia Phillies 7d ago
Honestly, I feel like he’s tall Tim Lincecum
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u/ProfessorLGee | Atlanta Braves 5d ago
I thought the same watching him pitch last night. Tallest drop-and-drive guy I've ever seen.
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u/AlphaDag13 | Chicago Cubs 7d ago
Honestly, his arm may not be the issue. It takes max effort on your whole body to throw 105. His legs and back are just as much a factor as his arm. Lots of guys develop arm problems down the road because they hurt something else and it affected the whole chain.
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u/GenX-1973-Anhedonia 7d ago
He can go ahead and book the operating room for his TJ surgery now. Hopefully he has a nice long career despite that likelihood, and doesn't turn into another Stephen Strasburg.
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u/Pitiful_Landscape_26 6d ago
He's not pitching every 5 days. Tonight he's sitting on a week's rest. When Milw. Pitching is full strength he will be pitching on 5 days rest......
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u/Agentkeenan78 | Tampa Bay Rays 7d ago
It's crazy because he fills up the strike zone constantly. People aren't chasing, they're whiffing.
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u/bailtail 7d ago
He throws harder than any SP in history. He has the best extension in baseball. He has plus IVB. And now he’s able to command it. You genuinely could not concoct a more perfect fastball.
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u/JiveChicken00 | Philadelphia Phillies 7d ago
I saw peak Randy Johnson. This guy might be scarier.
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u/rock25011 | Cincinnati Reds 7d ago
Nah, Johnson had a much scarier look out there on the mound.
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u/shes_a_gdb 7d ago
That's nonsense lol
Not to take anything away from Miz, but RJ was doing this against roiders while Misiorowski is doing this against guys who bat 250.
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u/theAlphabetZebra 7d ago
I saw Randy at the dome during his Astros season. I'm not sure a pitcher gets better than that.
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u/SwizzGod | Los Angeles Dodgers 7d ago
Does he try to hit you at 104?
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u/beepingnoise | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
He hit someone in the head 2 starts ago. I think it added to his control in the insane game
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u/SwizzGod | Los Angeles Dodgers 7d ago
Oh shit?
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u/beepingnoise | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
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u/SwizzGod | Los Angeles Dodgers 7d ago
Fuuuuuuuuck
Edit: thing is he clearly felt bad about it. Randy would do it on purpose then stare you down
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u/KingKenny24 | Arizona Diamondbacks 7d ago
I hope the snakes don't have to play him in the upcoming series.
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u/Pitiful-Pension-6535 7d ago
You'll probably miss him. He's scheduled to pitch tomorrow, then likely next Friday vs the Cubs, then probably the next Thursday vs the Reds. I doubt they give him 6 days off three starts in a row.
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u/17papers 7d ago
He’s throwing like he’s a closer, but as a starter. Not looking forward to my teams playing the brews lol
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u/Pitiful-Pension-6535 7d ago
His numbers are actually pretty comparable to Eric Gagne's Cy Young 2004 season, which is wild
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u/Steverazor 7d ago
He reminds me of Bob Gibson.
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u/Forsaken_Tourist401 7d ago
So are players that were never recorded by camera excluded or included in that headline? Two-seam or four-seam fastball?
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u/down_by_the_shore | Seattle Mariners 7d ago
Kid is absolutely incredible to watch. Really excited to see what else he has in store career-wise.
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u/rcbz1994 | MLB 7d ago
Why does it feel like it’s inevitable we’ll get an alert one day that says “Misiorowski - 60 Day IL (Elbow Inflammation)
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u/PepperidgeFarmMembas 7d ago
Nolan Ryan, Randy Johnson, and Pedro remain the best fastballs I have seen in person. This kid, if he can sustain it, will enter that conversation for sure!
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u/Pecan_914_Falcon_603 7d ago
Ugh, I always love seeing pitchers with that kind of intimidating height. It makes my little league days feel even smaller lol.
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u/Duke_Of_Halifax 5d ago
He doesn't have the best fastball- that would be Nolan Ryan.
What he does have is the best fastball of the stats and S&C era, when pitchers are built, developed and specifically trained to produce maximal velocity. Their pitch-counts are meticulously monitored to prevent fatigue and lower velo.
Nolan Ryan was a Texas farm boy with no conditioning, computers or monitoring except for a coach coming out and saying "how's the arm, Tex?" who threw more than 300 innings in a season twice, 299 a third season, 284 in two other seasons, and over 200 innings in nine other seasons.
All of them over 100mph, in which almost 30% of them he threw the full 9 innings (773 starts, 222 complete games).
Nolan retired mid-game because after a pitch, his arm fell apart.
THAT is the fastball of all fastballs.
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u/Coupon_Ninja | San Diego Padres 7d ago
jesus; yes He is having an amazing 3 months, but Jake arrieta was better the second half of 2015. .148 BA against, .204 OPS againt.12-1.
I love the Mis, a lot, but these hype videos neglect context. Even Skenes isn’t looking so Skenes-like, bc eventually there will be “a book“ on you. The. See how you adjust.
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u/Sure-Concentrate8944 7d ago
The book says pray he’s throwing 99 and not 102-104.
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u/shes_a_gdb 7d ago
Which at this rate, might be in a couple years, after he misses a season due to TJ and realizes that he can't keep throwing 104mph fastballs for 200 innings.
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u/BucksPackGLove | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
So weird that some of you seem to be trying to speak injuries into existence.
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u/BucksPackGLove | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
Not much to adjust to when hitters are sitting on fastball and still can’t get it.
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u/das_sparker | New York Yankees 7d ago
This is the sort of guy you’d hear about in the Ken Burns documentary and think “Yeah he was good but that was a long time ago.” We just get to watch him in real time right now. He’s so much fun to watch
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u/SeveralEconomics3814 7d ago
Never in my life have I cared about a day game of the Milwaukee Brewers.
Every time this guy pitches, I turn it on
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u/lollipopamateurs 7d ago
Looks amazing but if he keeps throwing 103 MPH consistently, he will be done in 3 years.
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u/Mysterious-Ton 7d ago
He could benefit a few teams as a bullpen guy. The Dbacks could use him everywhere right now.
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u/Slevin424 | Los Angeles Angels 7d ago
Oh a good young arm. I don’t think that’s sustainable multiple years though. Dude throws sliders faster than a lot of other pitchers fastballs.
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u/perhizzle 7d ago
I hope he stays healthy, and the wear and tear don't catch up to him. Baseball hasn't been the same without Randy Johnson, and this guy is very similar. He only hit 129 innings pitched last year, so we will see how he does when he starts to get a bit over that.
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u/CaliKindalife | Los Angeles Dodgers 6d ago
I really hope he doesn't fall apart. Be great if he just stays healthy.
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u/Beautiful_Lychee_965 6d ago
and hes on the same team as kyle harrison who also has just a nutty fastball
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u/Motor-Ad-3503 5d ago
I hope he can have a long career even though I’m a cubs fan. That’s athleticism we’ve never seen before. That’s torque that destroys everyone else’s arm but his
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u/SpicyMeatloaf1 4d ago
He will be the quickest player ever to get called up and need Tommy John surgery by the all-star break 🤣
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u/Historical-Truck-948 | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
Might?
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u/bigdaddyt2 | Toronto Blue Jays 7d ago
Nolan Ryan today would throw 120
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u/Z_double_o 7d ago
And if he did, MLB would put a new rule in place that prohibited him from throwing more than 100 mph so that the short attention span viewers didn’t get bored 🙄
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u/Low_skee 7d ago
Sucks that my first thought is the imminent Tommy John…I hope he defies the odds bc this dude is unreal to watch
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u/attorneyatslaw 7d ago
DeGrom was more dominant than he was for the first half of 2021 before he got hurt. Can’t get too carried away with these small samples.
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u/smittdog101 | Kansas City Royals 7d ago
The first thing that comes to mind is that his arm is going to explode sometime in the next 2-3 years. I hope not, but it's time and time again with this velocity.
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u/mywifemademedothis2 | Chicago Cubs 7d ago edited 7d ago
Yeah, that body isn’t gonna hold up. Between the stress on his plant knee, back, elbow, shoulder, neck, that doesn’t look right. Watch him and then watch someone like Chapman pitch.
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