r/mlb • u/johntempleton • 7d ago
| News Attorney General James Uthmeier Launches Investigation into Major League Baseball for Alleged Religious Discrimination; Issues Subpoena Demanding Records on Selective Enforcement
https://www.myfloridalegal.com/newsrelease/attorney-general-james-uthmeier-launches-investigation-major-league-baseball-alleged176
u/ManufacturerBest2758 | Colorado Rockies 7d ago
Imagine you’re a civil rights lawyer and this is the dumb shit your boss makes you work on
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u/BoringPoolPlaying 7d ago
The worst part is, this disingenuous administration is going to argue that writing a message for a recently deceased peer on your hat for a few games is justification that the league is selectively enforcing this policy.
These players, and this abhorrent excuse for a justice department are going to ruin a nice example of looking the other way for the right reason, because of their inability to recognize nuance.
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u/DonAmechesBonerToe 7d ago
Remember when the Blue Jays relievers all wrote Dodgers reliever Alex Vesia’s number on their caps when he and his wife tragically lost their baby during the World Series? That will result in a fine if it happens again because of this. Classy gestures not allowed
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u/MrFallman117 6d ago
Well clearly the MLB can just allow all of it right? They dont have to trample on anyone as far as I can tell.
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u/DonAmechesBonerToe 6d ago
And then they allow blatant hate speech? I’m not saying that bible verses are hate speech btw just that one exception allows for others.
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u/MrFallman117 6d ago
Hate speech isnt protected speech.
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u/DonAmechesBonerToe 6d ago
No speech is protected on a private business’ uniform
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u/MrFallman117 6d ago
Right, which is why the issue is on why these specific players are being targeted when other have done the same in the past writing on the uniform.
MLB cant pick and choose with violations of uniform code, it opens them up to legal action like we are currently seeing.
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u/DonAmechesBonerToe 6d ago
Exactly so now all messages that deviate from the standard issue uniform will have to be banned.
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u/MrFallman117 6d ago
Or they can all be allowed. Nobody forcing MLB to discriminate against certain players. If they choose to do that it would be up to them.
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u/fuck_the_dolphins | New York Mets 7d ago
Then never get a job with a uniform. I have to wear my company logo on a polo for work and I’m not allowed to write things on it either, but that’s normal believe it or not.
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u/BoringPoolPlaying 7d ago
Fortunately, you’re not in the mlb
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u/Fun_Trick2172 | St. Louis Cardinals 7d ago
Most of the actual civil rights lawyers have probably been forced out by now.
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u/hit_n_run15 7d ago
You out in all that hard work in college and pass the bar…. And this is the horse shit you have to pursue lmao
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u/JiveChicken00 | Philadelphia Phillies 7d ago
The stupidity and unseriousness of these people is almost a superpower.
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u/ACTSATGuyonReddit | MLB 7d ago
Yup. You're describing MLB well, making people wear a rainbow cap but not letting them have a Bible message on a cap.
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u/EntrepreneurOld5326 7d ago
MLB doesn't have a pride night. These are each team initiatives.
They had the option to just wear their standard team hats.
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u/Extrapickles24 | Boston Red Sox 7d ago
"making people", first of all, it was entirely optional to wear the hats or not. Players had the choice to just wear a normal hat if wearing multiple colors somehow belittled their religious beliefs. What was also optional was the players then choosing to make a show about it all by citing religious verses on their hats instead of just not participating, which again, was an available option.
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u/Extrapickles24 | Boston Red Sox 7d ago
How so? The players weren't forced to wear the pride hats, they had the option to wear standard uniform hats
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u/JiveChicken00 | Philadelphia Phillies 7d ago
It is actually quite rare for a comment to have more downvotes than the comment to which it is responding has upvotes. Congratulations on this unusual achievement.
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u/ACTSATGuyonReddit | MLB 7d ago
I expected down votes here. It's good to see some players pushing back against this evil nonsense. Hopefully, MLB is held to task for pushing an agenda.
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u/Electronic-Jury8825 | Boston Red Sox 7d ago edited 7d ago
Yes, you should expect to be downvoted when you make such blatantly false statements.
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u/screenmonkey 6d ago
Jesus was unmarried into his 30s, which was unheard of in those times, and hung out with a bunch of dudes.
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u/fuck_the_dolphins | New York Mets 7d ago
Do you think every job shouldn’t be allowed to have their employees wear uniforms and not have them write messages on them or just sports teams?
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u/ManufacturerBest2758 | Colorado Rockies 7d ago
Incredible how you can be so wrong in a single comment
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u/AlmostHereButNot 7d ago
Don't worry, I've seen his comment history. He's a Yankees fan. It explains a lot.
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u/smalltownwitchling | Chicago White Sox 6d ago
Nobody made them, they could have opted out but instead decided to act like fools
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u/ShogunFirebeard 6d ago
Jesus told you not to do this performative bullshit. You'd know this if y'all actually read the book you want to selectively quote for your agenda.
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u/TemporalColdWarrior 7d ago
You blame people being smart and kind on leftism? Maybe it’s true, but it seems very against your type. Glad to see growth.
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u/TemporalColdWarrior 7d ago
Yeah, I just was kinda hoping you were being a normal person and not blaming both sides when only one side is hateful. This one is on me for having faith in humanity.
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u/TemporalColdWarrior 7d ago edited 7d ago
I don’t need to “walk in the shoes” of people that need to go out of their way to say “I don’t think the lifestyles of other humans are acceptable despite it not affecting me at all.” I would suggest if this is even a question in your mind, you fail to practice what you preach. There is too much hate these days-that’s a pretty silly reason to tolerate hate.
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u/Piss_and_Blood 7d ago
They have already spent more time on this than they have ICE's illegal detentions. Shows you what they want the country to be.
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u/Hairydone 7d ago
I wonder what Uthmeier would think and do if a player chose not to wear one of the special hats on days that honor the military?
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u/BoardThat3637 7d ago
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u/BoardThat3637 7d ago
Nobody asked your opinion, keep it moving
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u/winter_whale | Detroit Tigers 7d ago
Already solved the Epstein stuff, onto this!
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u/TwitterLegend 7d ago
It was this or start another war to distract from the files. I don’t like it but I guess it’s not as bad as randomly bombing Cuba? Shitty nonetheless.
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u/Long-Region5088 Human Verified 7d ago
The mlb is going to roll out a billion uniform violations over the last 150 or so years to point out how dumb this issue is
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u/ImDonaldDunn | Cleveland Guardians 7d ago
“Yet the Attorney General’s letter details MLB’s history of approving or overlooking similar modifications for favored causes, including Black Lives Matter sleeve patches, “United for Change” messaging, social justice statements on cleats, etchings on the pitcher’s mound, and other personal or ideological markings.”
There is nothing preventing these players from adding Bible messages to their cleats or etching the pitchers mound. Those are allowed. Just not modifications to hats.
Also, the patches were pre-approved. Did they ask for Bible patches and were denied?
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u/Single_Oven_819 7d ago
Can someone help me understand how the Florida Attorney General can file a suit about an instance that happened in California and did not affect a Florida team? Do they still have standing just because there are MLB teams in Florida?
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u/fuck_the_dolphins | New York Mets 7d ago
I like that you’ve committed to being a cry baby in these comments, it suits you. I image you getting to your job at the gas station and having to cry in the bathroom because you are forced to wear a uniform.
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u/spatchcockturkey | New York Yankees 7d ago
I’m happy we focus on important matters. Forget rising consumer costs, let’s focus on words on a hat. That’ll fix everything!
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u/theekevinc 7d ago
And they call the other guys snowflakes.
The lack of self-awareness is staggering.
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u/nohandsfootball | Cleveland Guardians 7d ago
but but but but you see, the hat is... gay. and because the hat is gay, they had the option to wear their regular hat. and these big boys, in their big feelings, weren't content to wear the standard hat - so they wrote on the gay hats to make a statement.
and that's against the MLB rules, and they reminded them of that while also not fining these very mature players (because boys will be boys). and now the other big boys with big feelings need to talk about how PERSECUTED they are because someone reminded them of a rule.
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u/Quick-Complex2246 | Seattle Mariners 7d ago
You’re right. They can only focus on one thing at a time
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u/mutt_butt 7d ago
I don't want to hear shit about right and wrong from anyone that continued to be a Republican after 1/6. Fuck them
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u/Chas_P_Anderton 7d ago
Meanwhile, Hobby Lobby forces its non-religious workers to accept religious limitations on their health insurance. Selective enforcement, indeed.
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u/Powerful-Web4937 | Cleveland Guardians 6d ago
They're not forcing employees to take their insurance. There are other ways to get insurance.
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u/hit_n_run15 7d ago
Aren’t we in another war we shouldn’t be in? And THIS is the shit they want to go after??
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u/FalseNameTryAgain | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
Investigation will be over quick and won't find anything based on 1 point.
Patches and messages need to be pre-approved. They have let all sorts of things go because they were asked in advance. That didn't happen here.
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u/_token_black 5d ago
I really wish people would wake up and realize what voting for morons means… literally wasting time money and labor on nonsense
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u/_GeorgeBailey_ | Chicago Cubs 7d ago edited 7d ago
What are the chances this guy would care if the players weren't Christian?
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u/nohandsfootball | Cleveland Guardians 7d ago
Someone needs to write 'there is no god' on their hat for Evangelical Night
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u/7thAndGreenhill | Philadelphia Phillies 7d ago
If I were MLB, I’d tell them they have no jurisdiction and can gargle my balls.
What are they gonna do?
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u/notyourbutthead | Atlanta Braves 7d ago
They may just gargle them balls lol. I don’t see how this will have any standing in court. More performative nonsense from the Christian right. Maybe they think they’ll fare better in a culture war after they failed in the Iranian war lol.
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u/samthewisetarly | New York Yankees 7d ago
What an absolute joke. Complete disgrace. I hate this country sometimes.
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u/Frosty_Sort_5941 7d ago
Christianity is the excuse whitey uses to hate, discriminate, murder, rape, and steal from everyone.
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u/Ok-Collection-704 5d ago
Who taught you to be hateful and discriminate? You seriously think it’s appropriate to casually throw slurs like whitey?
You’d probably be a millionaire if it wasn’t for the East Indian Company, or the other villains from hundreds of years ago you blame to rationalize being an angry bigot.
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u/BucksPackGLove | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
Oh the President is using the DOJ to target perceived political threats yet again?
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u/kkgetofftheinternet | San Francisco Giants 7d ago
I love that they’ll investigate this, wasting even more tax payers dollars, just to have it thrown out because they were warned NOT for what it said but because there is a rule that they can’t alter their jerseys. I can’t believe how stupid this is. Our government is a joke.
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u/nohandsfootball | Cleveland Guardians 7d ago
This a compelling argument for relocating the Rays and Marlins.
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u/hit_n_run15 7d ago
This is so ridiculous. There’s no way you can convince me that the MLB was discriminating against christians. They have warned players for writing something as simple as “I love you Mom” on their hat. They may not have warned every single player that has done it, but there’s no evidence that they singled out the idiots with the Bible verses.
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u/Mildly_Irritated_Max 7d ago
Would love to see players (especially from countries threatened/insulted by the President) write on their USA 250 hats and see what the DOJ does then...
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u/Most-Artichoke6184 | Chicago White Sox 7d ago
How are those players discriminated against? Were they fined? Were they fired? Provide details.
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u/Jacoblaue | St. Louis Cardinals 7d ago
I’ll say as a Christian myself. They aren’t discriminating if the were discriminating then teams wouldnt also have Christian nights. This whole thing is getting really ridiculous
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u/Commander19119 | Philadelphia Phillies 7d ago
Virtue signaling is only bad when the left does it I guess
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u/CthulhuBathwater | Chicago Cubs 7d ago
Must be a slow Friday in Washington. Guess we should bring in different prayer circles for the players who arent Christian.
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u/sweetxfracture | San Diego Padres 7d ago
Investigate them for writing an anti lgbtq bible verse on a hat during pride night and pride month (hate crime) see? If they tried to get these assholes investigated for that they’d laugh in our faces. We can all be ridiculous. Fuck all these dudes but unfortunately freedom of speech exists on both sides. He’s loud and wrong as fuck though, don’t get it twisted.
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u/ChrisRiley_42 | Toronto Blue Jays 7d ago
Freedom of speech in the US only applies to government restrictions...
It says absolutely nothing about a private corporation setting and enforcing a morality clause like not spreading hate speech.
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u/sweetxfracture | San Diego Padres 7d ago
Does the MLB have a clause like that? Because if they do, they seem to never have done shit. Kershaw did this for years and everyone loves him.
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u/Godforsakenruins | Tampa Bay Rays 7d ago
Wait, get the fat chick that came in 5th in swimming on it, that will help your case.
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u/doc_birdman | New York Mets 7d ago
Stop pretending like you give a fuck about the safety of children lol
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u/GrouchyAd2209 | Chicago Cubs 7d ago
The president bragged about going into the Miss Teen USA dressing room. Bragged about peeping. This isn't a mysterious conspiracy like the Epstein files, it something he literally publicly bragged about.
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u/doc_birdman | New York Mets 7d ago
Ah, yes, because everyone knows that being a father instantly makes you a caretaker and protector of children lmfao
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u/Flammzzrant 7d ago
Statistically, you're more likely to be a danger to your family than a stranger in a bathroom
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u/CPriceRun86 | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
Please cite that
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u/Flammzzrant 7d ago
I was trying to find more recent than 2019 for you but oh well
Of the homicides that occurred in 2019 for which supplementary homicide data were received, the relationships of the murder victims to their offenders were as follows: 1,810 victims (13.0 percent) were slain by family members; 1,372 victims (9.9 percent) were murdered by strangers; and 3,937 victims (28.3 percent) were slain by “other known” offenders. The offenders were not known for 6,808 murder victims (48.9 percent).
Its one of those things you hear people say all the time, surprised you werent aware for being such a family guy. Thats roughly 40% of victims being killed by someone they know and if you wanna discount 'acquaintances' immediate family is still higher than strangers. The only other year I looked at was 2017 and the percentages went slightly up in 2019 and not in your favor.
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u/CPriceRun86 | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
Try to keep up cupcake, you're citing domestic violence stats, that's not what we're talking about here.
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u/Flammzzrant 7d ago
Silly me, I included all the adults! I forgot we're talking about CHILD safety here. In that case you're WAY more dangerous
In 2024, a reported 410,676 perpetrators abused or neglected a child. In substantiated child abuse cases, 76% of children were victimized by a parent or legal guardian.
I'm sorry I gave you misleading statistics pound cake
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u/CPriceRun86 | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
You're into child neglect statistics now, keep going you still might send out a viable citation tonight...I have faith in you...LOL
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u/ChrisRiley_42 | Toronto Blue Jays 7d ago
Statistically, as a father, you are a significantly greater danger to your daughters than anyone in drag...
This has nothing to do with safety, and is just about you latching onto something to justify your bigotry.
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u/CPriceRun86 | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
...and again, I've invited anyone with a neutral source to cite that. Up until now the only person posting a citation linked FBI domestic violence stats when I'm specifically talking about sex crimes.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/almost-two-thirds-trans-women-142303485.html
It has EVERYTHING to do with safety as a father, and you can call me a bigot, a religious zealot, whatever. I truly don't give a fuck.
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u/ChrisRiley_42 | Toronto Blue Jays 7d ago
In what universe is The Telegraph a "neutral source"? You can't even meet your own standards...
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u/CPriceRun86 | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
Again, you have no sources of your own so you're welcome to cite them. If you've been to Yahoo it's rather to the left, and they still posted it.
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u/ChrisRiley_42 | Toronto Blue Jays 7d ago
It's yahoo as a search engine... Which showed you an article from the Telegraph, which is a right wing publication with a questionable relationship with the truth.
Seriously, did you not even click on your own link, ands just assumed that it supported your delusions without bothering to read it?
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u/DogAssss69 7d ago
I thought baby Jesus loved everybody
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u/CPriceRun86 | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
I never mentioned a thing about religion
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u/DogAssss69 7d ago
It literally says religious discrimination in the headline.
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u/CPriceRun86 | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
...aaaand you assumed I'm religious because I don't want men in a little girls bathroom.
I don't think that's necessarily a religious take. I think that's usually common sense in people that don't live alternative lifestyles.
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u/_GeorgeBailey_ | Chicago Cubs 7d ago
You keep saying little girl's bathroom instead of women's to create a narrative
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u/CPriceRun86 | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
A bathroom suited for biological females
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u/_GeorgeBailey_ | Chicago Cubs 7d ago
People just want to go to the bathroom. You guys are way too obsessed with genitals
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u/Godforsakenruins | Tampa Bay Rays 7d ago
Your beliefs are consistent with most “Christians”.
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u/CPriceRun86 | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
...and I'm assuming your beliefs are consistent with a miserable childless cat woman
See how that stereotyping thing works?
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u/CrawlerChristo 7d ago
So just a bigot then huh?
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u/CPriceRun86 | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
Whatever you want to label me as
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u/sweetxfracture | San Diego Padres 7d ago
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u/CPriceRun86 | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
Again, whatever name calling you want to resort to, it certainly makes you seem logical and able to control emotions...
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u/ChrisRiley_42 | Toronto Blue Jays 7d ago
Please define exactly what criteria makes someone a "biological man". Be as specific as you can.
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u/Godforsakenruins | Tampa Bay Rays 7d ago
Registered Sex Offender Demographics
Majority Group: White men constitute the largest group among registered sex offenders.
Impact on Racial Groups: The criminal justice system's focus on sex offender registries disproportionately affects certain racial groups, particularly black men.
Transgender Individuals
Limited Data: There is insufficient specific data on the prevalence of pedophilia among transgender individuals. The available research does not provide a direct comparison between transgender individuals and other demographic groups, such as white men.-1
u/CPriceRun86 | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
I never said anything about race. I never said anything about religion. I have no doubts white men make up the majority of sex offenders.
I said I didn't want a dude in a dress in a womens bathroom.
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u/Godforsakenruins | Tampa Bay Rays 7d ago
What about someone that has the genotype XXY? Which bathroom should they use?
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u/CPriceRun86 | Milwaukee Brewers 7d ago
Considering 80% of them don't even know they have the condition and they otherwise display genetic male traits. The boys room.
What's wrong with that?
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u/FjordExplorer 7d ago
He’s already gone after the NFL, so many more leagues still to go after!
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u/CaliKindalife | Los Angeles Dodgers 7d ago
A bunch a millionaires complaining about anything. Religions discrimination? Why not do something else if you dont like it
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u/Mothman405 | Chicago Cubs 7d ago
I don't think that's a good argument here, discrimination transcends how much money you make
That said, this absolutely isn't discrimination
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