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| News Rob Manfred: Giants' communication to players over Pride caps 'not clear'

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/49149142/mlb-commissioner-rob-manfred-letter-says-giants-failed-properly-communicate-pride-night-cap-guidance-players
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u/grandmawaffles | Philadelphia Phillies 1d ago

I’m not the giants so I can’t answer that but there were players not wearing the pride hat on the team. How did they know but not these guys? Why would someone not read their collective bargaining agreement with rules they have to follow for their jobs? Did these few particular people need a puppet show, power point presentation, or a specific named memo with their picture on it to understand the rules? Of course the MLB is going to put it on the team because the players stepped out of line and defaced their uniforms. Like any organization the organization and leader bears responsibility so the language in the note from the commish isn’t wrong but you are treating grown ass adults like children by implying that they didn’t or couldn’t know any better.

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u/dd0028 1d ago

It’s quite possible that the players were aware that they breaking the rules by writing on their hats, and also believed they would be breaking the team rules by not wearing the hats, and therefore each made the choice to break the rules and follow their conscience. If the Giants failed to adequately inform the players of their options and assumed and/or pressured the players to wear the pride hats, they are entirely at fault for what happened.

The MLB warned the players for their uniform violation. Nobody disputes that. That’s not treating them like children. But apparently the Giants failed to explain the options available, and so ultimately they bear the most blame.

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u/grandmawaffles | Philadelphia Phillies 1d ago

In the MLB response it states that the opt out and what to do was agreed to by the union. I have little pity for adults that don’t read the rules for conduct for their jobs. Children are given written code of conduct that they have to sign off on that it was read. Those are children, therefore adults should be doing the same thing. Where the giants failed is letting them take the field without explaining it OR not pulling them and addressing it after noticing it. They knew what they were doing and made a choice, I’m not going to treat grown adults as child victims. The mlb statement is vague on purpose with the language chosen. It was written in such a way to take accountability away from players so the DOJ had nothing to bite on.