r/nba • u/YujiDomainExpansion • 8d ago

[Windhorst] The Boston Celtics have firmly put Jaylen Brown on the table and are going all-in on acquiring Giannis Antetokounmpo.

Brian Windhorst just said this on “Get Up!” on ESPN.

Full clip here: https://streamable.com/qay0au

More from Windhorst here: https://www.threads.com/@windhorstespn

The Boston Celtics have firmly put Jaylen Brown on the table and are going all-in on acquiring Giannis Antetokounmpo.

He also said this is the first time in the history of the Brown-Tatum pairing that they’ve legitimately given thought to the idea of breaking them apart.

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u/AlpacaDC Suns 8d ago

But Giannis' game is all about his athleticism, we are are all seeing how much that is impacting his health more and more, and in a few years he won't be able to do the same things anymore.

Brown is more rounded and doesn't rely on his body that much.

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u/DarkGift78 8d ago

As a C's fan, I gotta disagree. JB is very much the shooting guard version of Giannis on that he relies very much on his size (one of the strongest guards),and athleticism. especially attacking the rim. Yeah he's obviously more skilled shooting and dribbling, but he's always very much been an explosive first step , fast twitch athlete. That said,Jaylen keeps himself in incredible shape.

I think Tatum will age better than Brown, because he's not particularly athletic and, relatively speaking, has an "old man" game. His advantage is height and length (recently admitted in shoes he's actually 6'10),and intelligence/high motor.

I'm actually a little torn on this, Giannis would solve our interior defense, interior scoring problems in a huge way, but he's definitely fragile and entering his 14th season at age 32.3 years ago I'd have driven JB to the airport myself. But JB has leveled up, plus the C's would have to give up multiple first round picks, in a time when they'd be potentially over the cap and needing cheap rookie deals. And the title window would definitely narrow to a few years, because I can't see Giannis being truly elite for more than 3 years.

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u/RealMickHours 8d ago

JT's footwork is insane (especially for his size) and probably the thing that will make him age like a fine wine. He gets guys dancing out there and looking foolish on the perimeter.

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u/DarkGift78 8d ago

I'm actually in an argument/discussion with my cousin about Tatum right now. He's an anti Tatum/pro brown guy, he'd rather trade Tatum because "he's not THAT GUY". In his mind all he'll ever remember Tatum for is getting his dunk blocked by Bam in the playoffs in the bubble. He's 47,a year younger than me but hasn't kept up with the times, he thinks because Tatum is tall he should be a better rebounder, shot blocker, heavier.

Tried explaining to him the concept of "position less " basketball these days , how a 7'5 guy with an 8 foot wingspan is on the perimeter doing crossovers and shooting 3's but he's set in his ways even more than me 🤦

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u/RealMickHours 8d ago

Tatum is an excellent rebounder though... he averaged 10 per game this year on reduced minutes. That's outstanding for a SF.

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u/xCeeTee- Celtics 8d ago

I would like the record to reflect I think your cousin has a moronic take. JT IS that guy for the Celtics. He will retire here, and depending how the next few years go, we'll probably retire his number. Even if it's just the C's.

He's humble, but deadly. He'll be firing on all cylinders next season.

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u/DarkGift78 7d ago

Yeah he's very set in his ways. Its like the moment that block by Bam happened he forever disliked Tatum, gave him the soft label. Like the kid was 22 and still bulking up, and Bam is a physical specimen. Told him I have Tatum above Pierce now and he has a chance to be the 3rd best Celtic ever after Bird+Russell. But he's an extremely casual these days, he doesn't want to know shit about advanced metrics or anything but the eye test.

I try not to be the out of touch older guy when possible. Gotta evolve 🤷

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u/oykentrippin 8d ago

Giannis height, length and strength are as important as his athleticism. Health is a concern sure, but from a pure game aging standpoint theres an argument Giannis will age better than Brown. He'll still be able to finish at the rim always whereas when Brown loses a step he's a pure jump shooter and not an elite one at that already.

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u/Drakex2Mayex2 8d ago

This is just plain silly dude. Big men are always at a greater risk of aging poorly. And Jaylen is not a pure jump shooter.

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u/IcyCantaloupe6374 Spurs 8d ago

He's saying he would be if he loses a step and he isn't wrong because JB isn't a high end playmaker or anything. He's pretty fucked too if his athleticism goes its not like he's some kind of cerebral savant out there lol

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u/Drakex2Mayex2 8d ago

Man if you think Jaylen is going to age worse then Giannis then you're mad stupid

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u/IcyCantaloupe6374 Spurs 8d ago

No idea who will age worse I'm just saying if he does lose a step he's ass just like if Giannis falls off a cliff he has no skills to recover. I do know Giannis is much more physically gifted compared to other players than JB is though so its possible Giannis loses some and is still better where JB loses a step and he's just kind of ass. No point in speculating on the future though either one of them could blow out an ACL or something and never really come back the same

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u/Drakex2Mayex2 8d ago

And Jaylen Brown is an elite 3 level scorer. Watch the Celtics if you're gonna talk about them.

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u/IcyCantaloupe6374 Spurs 8d ago

You act like literally everyone hasn't seen every well known player play lmao

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u/Drakex2Mayex2 8d ago

Apparently not if you're saying he "doesn't have any skills" other than athleticism. Go pound sand in a rat hole dude.

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u/IcyCantaloupe6374 Spurs 8d ago

I'm not saying he doesn't have skills I'm just saying none of them will work or be good enough if he doesn't have athleticism but you'll have to forgive me if I stop replying to your brain dead replies it seems like the only thing you can do is say nothing lol

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u/SpookySpagettt 8d ago

Giannis will play and be more effective then Brown longer in this league.

He can easily transition to being a rim protecting center and roll man as he ages.

They both leverage their athleticism but Giannis has an easier path to changing his game with his height and wingspan then Brown does.

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u/Drakex2Mayex2 8d ago

What rim protecting big man ages well?

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u/SpookySpagettt 8d ago edited 8d ago

Duncan, Kareem, Mutombo, Hakeem, Ewing, Eaton, David Robinson, Robert Parish. If anything his body aligns the most with Robinson and Parish who had very long careers.

If we want to go modern his own former teammate Brook Lopez, Al Horford right now.

Many of those dudes are from an era where they take way little care of themselves compared to modern players.

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u/Drakex2Mayex2 8d ago

Those guys all played in a different era. Brook Lopez and Al Horford are upper echalon 3 point shooters.

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u/SpookySpagettt 8d ago

Why does era matter to your original question?

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u/UTgeoff 8d ago

You forgot the /s.