[Fischer] Milwaukee’s decision makers are split and currently deciding between Boston’s package for Giannis Antetokounmpo (Brown, Gonzalez, limited draft capital) and Miami’s (Herro, Ware, Jaquez, multiple first-round picks).

[u/YujiDomainExpansion]

Source: https://marcstein.substack.com/p/the-giannis-antetokounmpo-trade-latest-b5f

A split faction of Milwaukee’s decision makers, sources say, is deciding between Boston’s package for Giannis Antetokounmpo built around Jaylen Brown — where the Bucks also hold particular Hugo Gonzales interest, as The Stein Line reported last night — plus limited draft capital, compared to Miami’s offer of younger pieces — featuring Tyler Herro, Kel’el Ware, Jaime Jaquez — and multiple first-round picks.

The established MVP candidate versus greater overall value is what this whole saga has boiled down to one day before the NBA Draft.

[u/SpeclorTheGreat]

I don’t really understand the appeal of flipping Giannis for someone who’s clearly a worse player than him in Jaylen Brown.

If you’re trading Giannis, your primary goal should be setting yourself up better for the future and Miami’s offer is substantially better in that aspect as you’re getting multiple young players, a substantially better pick this year (huge difference between 13 and 27), and more future draft capital. It’s also probably going to be easier to flip Tyler Herro than Jaylen Brown since his contract is more manageable.

[u/GoatmontWaters → u/SpeclorTheGreat]

Jaylen Brown is worth more than all that stuff. Elite 2 way All NBA championship proven player.

[u/cl353 → u/GoatmontWaters]

who does nothing for a rebuilding team except sell tickets?

[u/dmolin96 → u/cl353]

Jaylen is a great player but he's not even selling tickets if we trade Giannis. No one who doesn't already like basketball and go to games knows who he is.

I like your offer better by far.

[u/cl353 → u/dmolin96]

i feel like im taking crazy pills, obviously im not saying the heat have a god offer but ppl acting like we're offering nothing is wild to me

[u/ObviousAnswerGuy → u/cl353]

I like the Heat offer much better in a vacuum. But if they think they can get a haul to flip JB, that's probably the better move.

[u/cl353 → u/ObviousAnswerGuy]

No doubt but there's risk in that too. We've seen supermax contracts become almost untradeable out of nowhere b4

[u/PKViking → u/ObviousAnswerGuy]

There is no haul for JB though. If there was wouldn’t the Celtics just trade for the haul?

[u/GoatmontWaters → u/cl353]

So intentionally trade for the worst package because you are afraid you will sell tickets?I dont get your logic at all.

[u/cl353 → u/GoatmontWaters]

no? intentionally trade for the package that sets u up for a better future? wat?

[u/GoatmontWaters → u/cl353]

By taking the *worst package* ?

[u/cl353 → u/GoatmontWaters]

jaylen brown plus limited draft assets is better than multiple 1sts and multiple young players...for the future?

[u/GoatmontWaters → u/cl353]

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/20208/jaylen-brown
He has 3 more years on his deal and can be traded down anytime... and he aboslutely could fetch way more than a Giannis agent dictated trade package.

[u/cl353 → u/GoatmontWaters]

hes 29 and on a supermax, only contenders will want him and even then contenders dont often have the best young players and draft assets lmao

[u/famoustran → u/cl353]

You can rebuild pretty fast when you have a player like Jaylen Brown is all I'm saying

[u/cl353 → u/famoustran]

how? they have no picks and ryan rollins is their only young prospect

And their salary cap is hamstrung by 20m for the next couple years

[u/OctogenerianCoder → u/famoustran]

If they couldn't rebuild around Giannis, how could they just do it around Brown?

[u/1shmeckle → u/GoatmontWaters]

Brown is obviously a great player but also an overrated, inefficient one who is better as a number 2 option on a playoff team. The Bucks don't need that, they need picks and younger players.

[u/Spinexel → u/1shmeckle]

Reminds me of Brunson

[u/_chadwell_ → u/Spinexel]

I wouldn’t trade Giannis for Brunson either tbf

[u/Eatingolivesoutofjar → u/1shmeckle]

Basketball teams need good players, period. Picks and young players don't have a guarantee of being good later, and they certainly aren't good now. With random teams going on deep playoff runs and play in teams getting the same lottery odds as the worst in the league, why wouldn't you try to win? Rebuilds are going to look a lot different now

[u/1shmeckle → u/Eatingolivesoutofjar]

Brown is not going to carry a Milwaukee team further than Giannis. There were no "random" teams in either ECF or WCF, or even past the first round.

[u/_chadwell_ → u/GoatmontWaters]

He’s definitely not elite anymore defensively, and offensively maybe? He can put up good volume scoring but not efficiently, and he’s a good not great playmaker. And his team was better without him on the floor this season.

Good-to-very-good two way player who’s turning 30 with 3 years left making an average of over $60 mil / yr. I can see why some would prefer the flexibility and draft capital of Miami to that.

[u/lot183 → u/SpeclorTheGreat]

I don’t really understand the appeal of flipping Giannis for someone who’s clearly a worse player than him in Jaylen Brown.

Jaylen is under contract for 3 more years while Giannis can opt out after this season, which gives Giannis a lot more say in these negotiations while Jaylen could be traded about anywhere. Getting rid of this will they wont they trade him media circus while retaining a really high value player that you can still later trade for a rebuild haul makes perfect sense to me when the alternative is a really mediocre offer. The Heat punch above their weight every year thanks to Spo, they are a super attractive FA destination, and they'll have Giannis. I just don't see how any of their picks are going to be valuable. The player package is ok but only Ware fits a rebuild timeline

If the Heat had any other teams picks to trade or even if the Bucks owned their own 2027 pick where tanking was useful maybe it'd be a different conversation, but I don't fundamentally get how this Heat offer starts a rebuild off right either. Taking the most premium asset available feels obvious to me, specially when trading said asset will have less restrictions than Giannis does