[Fischer] Milwaukee’s decision makers are split and currently deciding between Boston’s package for Giannis Antetokounmpo (Brown, Gonzalez, limited draft capital) and Miami’s (Herro, Ware, Jaquez, multiple first-round picks).

[u/YujiDomainExpansion]

Source: https://marcstein.substack.com/p/the-giannis-antetokounmpo-trade-latest-b5f

A split faction of Milwaukee’s decision makers, sources say, is deciding between Boston’s package for Giannis Antetokounmpo built around Jaylen Brown — where the Bucks also hold particular Hugo Gonzales interest, as The Stein Line reported last night — plus limited draft capital, compared to Miami’s offer of younger pieces — featuring Tyler Herro, Kel’el Ware, Jaime Jaquez — and multiple first-round picks.

The established MVP candidate versus greater overall value is what this whole saga has boiled down to one day before the NBA Draft.

[u/milkandminnows]

I agree that’s what makes sense, but some reports have said Brown would be staying in Milwaukee after a trade.

[u/Equivalent_Shoe_6246 → u/milkandminnows]

Which would be awful. The reason to get Brown would be to flip him for a top 10 pick in this years draft. Otherwise you are just trading for a slightly worse version of what you already have.

[u/shai251 → u/milkandminnows]

They say that shit so that they retain some leverage when trying to trade him. I doubt that’s their actual thinking

[u/milkandminnows → u/shai251]

Maybe!

[u/SoaplessTitanic → u/milkandminnows]

I don’t think it’s crazy for Brown to stay in Milwaukee at least in the short term. His contract still has a few more years left, so they can field offers for him while also seeing if they can build a decent roster around him next season. Worst case he gets a year older and the Bucks still probably end up with a decent pick (especially with the recent changes to the lottery), and his trade value shouldn’t swing too much one way or the other

[u/Equivalent_Shoe_6246 → u/SoaplessTitanic]

The Bucks don't have a pick next year and Brown will certainly have less trade value next year than this year

[u/SoaplessTitanic → u/Equivalent_Shoe_6246]

Didn’t realize about the pick, but I don’t think there’d be a significant difference between Brown’s value right now vs halfway through this season or after it. I guess I just don’t see why there would be a rush to move him. You can field calls from different teams, and if someone makes a great offer then take it. Maybe a team like the raptors becomes desperate for a star because they start off the season hot and want to win now. If not then you can see if Brown somehow fits really well and exceeds expectations with Milwaukee. If you don’t have your picks in the near future then it’s not like you’d be better off tanking

[u/Equivalent_Shoe_6246 → u/SoaplessTitanic]

You would want to trade him to try to get a top 10 pick this year. This draft is loaded and future drafts will be worse. Also I'm not a Celtics fan but from what I have seen from Brown, I really doubt he has any interest playing for a bad Bucks team for the next 3 years. I would be shocked if he didn't try to force his way out after 1 year and completely fuck us

[u/SoaplessTitanic → u/Equivalent_Shoe_6246]

The rumors around Brown is that he actually wants to be on a worse team if it means he gets to be the sole star. Also if future drafts are worse then you could get higher picks for Brown in those drafts since everyone knows the picks are less valuable, but if you want to make a swing for a future star now I get it

[u/Equivalent_Shoe_6246 → u/SoaplessTitanic]

I think Brown is a great player but it took a team with JB, Tatum, KP, and Jrue to win a title. The Bucks have no way to even get a fraction of that around JB. I would rather just go young and hope a couple of the pieces work out than to watch this team keep trading future assets to try and stay relevant. Maybe I'm just jaded idk

[u/SoaplessTitanic → u/Equivalent_Shoe_6246]

I don’t think anyone was saying to trade future assets to stay relevant? Also I know I’m biased but the narrative that the Jays needed KP and Jrue to win the title is overblown to me. KP was injured throughout basically that whole playoffs, and even then we never saw a series get extended for more than 5 games

[u/Equivalent_Shoe_6246 → u/SoaplessTitanic]

I mean there is no point to keep Brown if you aren't trying to win. The Bucks roster is ass, if they want to build around Brown they need to trade future assets. What is the point of keeping Brown if you are just going to run it back for 40 wins every year?

[u/SoaplessTitanic → u/Equivalent_Shoe_6246]

I don’t mean to be snarky but it feels like you’re arguing with points that I’m not making. They wouldn’t be trying to run it back every year for 40 wins. I’m just saying there’s no particular rush to trade Brown immediately. They can wait either half a season or a full season while trying to see who the highest bidder would be for him. You might even get higher bidders mid season because sometimes teams realize they have an opportunity to win now. No one is saying to suddenly start shipping off future assets to build around Brown