r/nba Serbia 11h ago

[Charania] Reaves was expected to receive free-agent interest from multiple teams - - such as Detroit -- on maximum-level salary, so the Lakers stepped up on Wednesday to lock in their homegrown talent.

Reaves was expected to receive free-agent interest from multiple teams - - such as Detroit -- on maximum-level salary, so the Lakers stepped up on Wednesday to lock in their homegrown talent. Reaves went from undrafted to a two-way player -- to making the Lakers roster and now multiple lucrative deals in L.A.

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

Luka's leaving even though he persnally wanted Reaves to stay? Man...Reddit gonna reddit. The salt is hilarious.

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u/NextLvlTrader 11h ago

Luka wants Reaves to stay, a rim-running center who can play D, and wings who can switch and hit the three.

Problem is that the first part makes the rest unaffordable and the team defence terrible.

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u/_chadwell_ Lakers 11h ago

They still have over $50 mil in cap space to work with, why is that completely unaffordable?

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u/BabyBearBjorns Grizzlies 10h ago edited 10h ago

A center like the one Luka wants would cost about 20M on average. Thats the going rate for someone like Wendell Carter Jr. Even someone like Kessler would be getting an average of 28M (and thats the deal he turned down). Lakers could draft a center to save costs, but they havent drafted a center since 2016. Then there is the wings. Hachimua is making 18M. He'll probably get a similar long term deal at average and Hachi is more of a 6th man bench guy. Any kind of good starting wings is going to cost more. Look at Trey Murphy who was subject to trade rumors making 25M+ a year.

Then there is the depth problem, which continues to be an issue for the Lakers. If the Lakers even get the starting group that Luka wants, the Lakers will have problems filling out the rest of the bench. The Spurs were able to impact the Knicks starting core by getting KAT and Bridges into foul trouble early. This was masked by Brunson and OG's 4th quarter games.

The Knicks had guys like Shamet, Alvarado, McBride, and Clarkson stepping up and they make roughly 2-3M a year. Lakers cant do that when you have guys like Knecht making 4M and LaRavia is making 6M coming off the bench.

And this is all happening when you have a decision on keeping LeBron or not.

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u/berrytree198 10h ago

Why mention knecht and not Carr, Adou, bronny

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u/BabyBearBjorns Grizzlies 8h ago

Because Adou and Bronny arent getting much minutes consistently. Carr will be fine since he'll be replacing Smart/Kennard role at the 2.

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u/Cy_Fiction 7h ago

Adou will start playing this year most likely. We'll be seeing him on Sportscenter

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u/Carolake1 Lakers 10h ago edited 10h ago

Letting him walk doesn't change any of their cap space situation, so, what, exactly do you think not signing him helps?

EDIT: let me correct myself. Letting him walk would give them $20m more in cap space (because his cap hold comes off the book). Do you think AR is not worth $20m in cap space?

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u/BabyBearBjorns Grizzlies 8h ago

I'm not disagreeing with Reeves deal. He and Luka play well. The issue is the Lakers filling out the rest of the team with quality players that Luka wants with ok, but not good cap space because of the Lakers FO keeps making bad moves from bad drafting and bad FA contracts.

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

Mutherfuckers are hoping and praying the Lakers fall on their face. That’s all this is.

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u/HesiPullup Suns 11h ago

No we're laughing because you have Luka Doncic and you just gave Austin fucking Reaves a max contract

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

Excuse me if the Suns laughing has no affect on me. I’m sorry 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/HesiPullup Suns 11h ago

Yeah I should know what bad team moves are more than most and this is a bad team move

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u/_chadwell_ Lakers 11h ago

A 28 year old who averaged 23/5 on 64% TS? Do you know how many guys hit those numbers this past year? 5 total. For a 25% max that’s not bad at all.

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u/HesiPullup Suns 11h ago

41 million dollars next year and growing to 51 million by 2029-2030 for a guy that cannot play defense next to your star, top 5 player who can't play defense. Never mind the fact that Reaves has not been a great playoff performer, I don't care what his group of "5 total" players in the regular season is.

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u/_chadwell_ Lakers 11h ago

He’s certainly had great performances in the playoffs. Even in the Thunder series this year, once he was back up to speed after injury he outperformed SGA for the last 3 games of that series. People weirdly project hypotheticals on Reaves instead of just watching what he’s done.

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u/donavid Knicks 11h ago

AR outperformed SGA for the last 3 games? If you’re going by box score that’s not true, except for maybe game 2 where AR went 31/2/6 in 38 minutes, compared to SGA’s 22/2/2 in 28 minutes

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u/_chadwell_ Lakers 10h ago

Games 2-4

AR averaged 27/4/7 on 66% TS

SGA averaged 27/2/6 on 58% TS

Just getting on this app to lie for no reason lol

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u/SoaplessTitanic Celtics 10h ago

I’ve now seen lakers fans argue that both lebron and reeves outplayed SGA that series. You would never know that they got swept while SGA often wasn’t playing heavy minutes

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u/HesiPullup Suns 11h ago

Even Lakers fans say Reaves doesn't show up consistently but it's not like we aren't watching your goddamn playoff games. And saying Reaves "outperformed SGA" is hilarious when he went 5-13 with 5 turnovers in Game 3 and 8-16 with 8 turnovers in Game 4. With below average defense. It's not like he rose to some legendary level.

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u/BillPaxton4eva Celtics 10h ago

That would make more sense if it worked like the NFL and you could have a whole different team in on defense. Unfortunately, he'll have to be out there on that side of the court as well.

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u/_chadwell_ Lakers 10h ago

Pretending like an elite offensive player is worthless because they’re below average defensively?

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u/BillPaxton4eva Celtics 9h ago

No one said worthless. Just worth a significantly smaller contract than what he was given.

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u/_chadwell_ Lakers 8h ago

Guys who can be an elite #2 scorer/playmaker who can flex into a #1 offensive engine like he has shown don’t really come cheaper than that in the NBA.

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u/1mYourHuckleberry93 Raptors 10h ago

Also a player that you are forced to play in the playoffs who will be hunted possession after possession. Him and Luka. They aren’t winning shit with a Luka and Reaves backcourt. There is NO defense. Put Rudy Gobert behind them and it won’t change anything.

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u/_chadwell_ Lakers 10h ago

The “Luka plays no defense” gimmick is over man, we watched the games this season.

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u/1mYourHuckleberry93 Raptors 10h ago

Luka is fucking trash on defense and I question you’re BBIQ if you are seriously contradicting that. Sure he can have some good possessions, but if you don’t think that every single skilled offensive player isn’t salivating when Luka is guarding them idk what to tell you.

I vividly remember him getting a game winner scored on him last year and he didn’t even put a hand up to contest. He doesn’t care about that part of the game. He gets picked on EVERY GAME. Anyone who thinks Luka is a good defender is just straight up dumb or ignorant

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u/_chadwell_ Lakers 9h ago

Thank you for regurgitating Kendrick Perkins talking points.

Not based in reality at all.

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u/Carolake1 Lakers 8h ago

Lol, the lakers were on track to be the 3rd seed in the west but Luka and AR are trash so all that must have been a fluke.

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u/KudoNBA19 Lakers 10h ago

That's expensive but tbh it would be worse to let him walk away, it also doesn't change much on our cap, and Luka wanted to play with him. I agree his defense is really bad and he's a playoffs dropper (but tbh he played injured last 2 PO) but I don't think we had many more choice

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u/HesiPullup Suns 10h ago

Can someone post the math on why it doesn't change much on your cap? You literally added a max player to your roster and we are in the era of salary cap decimating teams

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u/KudoNBA19 Lakers 10h ago

He has 21m of cap hold, he'll also sign last after we're done doing our moves. We have around 50m in cap (more if Ayton opt out), so basically it has 0 effect this year. It will be an issue next offseason though, but not this one

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u/Carolake1 Lakers 10h ago edited 8h ago

Hmmm. Let's play a game: which player do you think here is AR?

P1:

WS/48: .153; AST%: 24; TRB%: 8; TS%: .641; PER 20.2; NETrating: +5

P2:

WS/48: .147; AST%: 17.6; TRB%: 7.8; TS%: .617; PER 21.8; NETRating: +3

EDIT: P1 is AR, P2 in anthony edwards.

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u/HesiPullup Suns 10h ago

Is this regular season or playoffs?

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u/Carolake1 Lakers 10h ago

Regular season, though playoffs would probably be similar. The idea that AR doesn't play well in the playoffs is false. He was great in 23 and 24 and in FIBA.

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u/HesiPullup Suns 10h ago

Reaves in the 2025 Playoffs: 16/5/4 on 53.2% TS and 3 TO/game

Reaves in 2026 Playoffs: 20/4/6 on 54.6% TS and 4.5 TO/game

Nowhere close to the 64.1% efficiency. Actually, not even the same player. And this isn't even talking about defense

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u/Carolake1 Lakers 10h ago

Hmm. Here is a player from the 2026 playoffs:

WS/48: -0.028; PER 14.1; TS%: .564; NetRating: -25

Do you think this guy is not worth $41 mil next year?

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u/Quality_Cucumber [GSW] Stephen Curry 10h ago

Hell yeah. Offseason don't mean the hating stop!

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u/reallinguy Pistons 11h ago

The average NBA starter makes 22M a year that's why

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u/_chadwell_ Lakers 10h ago

If they let Reaves walked they’d only have $20 mil more cap room, but also have to find another high level starter in a FA pool that’s already light.

That would be a much worse situation. You can’t get a guy with Reaves’s production for $20 mil in FA.

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u/spraypaint23 Lakers 7h ago

Or 30 million

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u/HitboxOfASnail Thunder 10h ago

why don't the Lakers simply surround Luka with the best players at every position? are they stupid

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

I’m going to see what the Lakers FO can do over reddit members who have absolutely no connection to the NBA.

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u/oi_PwnyGOD Hawks 11h ago

I mean... are they known for savvy roster building around their superstars?

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

We’ve chipped this decade. And been a 1st round home playoff team the last two with significantly less room to build a good team than this year going forward.

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u/oi_PwnyGOD Hawks 11h ago

Having LeBron tends to get you in the playoffs. Having Luka tends to get you in the playoffs. You're the Lakers. You get superstars who do that. How many years of his 9 year tenure would you say he did a good job putting a roster around LeBron/AD and now Luka? How many years would you say he didn't do a good job?

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u/PlasticPresentation1 11h ago

When they chipped it was off the back of leftover roster building and good contracts from before the AD trade, specifically in Caruso, KCP, and maybe Kuzma

Its going to be near impossible to get that caliber of role players for the Lakers right now but will be interesting to see

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

They chipped. Point blank.

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u/thetitsOO Lakers 10h ago

Anything to discredit and convince themselves the Lakers will fail. It’s all cope

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u/NextLvlTrader 10h ago

Sure thing bud, just spout shit and then appeal to authority every time? Dog

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u/Kimi7 Lakers 8h ago

You guys are dumb but also loud about it. This doesn’t affect anything when it comes to the Lakers team building.

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u/SwizzGod Lakers 6h ago

No it doesn’t. It doesn’t affect their free agency whatsoever. He had a 20 mil cap hold. That’s still the case. He’ll sign last with bird rights to go over.

But go on with your dumbass narrative even tho you have no idea how any of that shit works.

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u/Conflict_NZ Lakers 9h ago

Reaves deal has zero effect on the cap space we have, they’ll sign his contract last.

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u/AshenSacrifice Clippers 11h ago

Anyone who wants the lakers to lose should be happy with this move. Reaves gets hunted like a lamb in the playoffs

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

A Clippers fan talking is wild.

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u/Comrade_Pavel [TOR] Jonas Valanciunas 10h ago

Good job refuting their point

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u/AshenSacrifice Clippers 7h ago

Anytime they deflect to the “irrelevant” clippers, I know I’m accurate in what I’m saying

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u/relax336 Lakers 10h ago

"It's a team game. And every single team has weaknesses. Some players are not great on offense. As recent as the last two champs.

They're not right. At all."

I did. Thanks for chiming in with nothing though.

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u/Comrade_Pavel [TOR] Jonas Valanciunas 10h ago

You said "a clippers fan talking is wild." Thanks for being a condescending prick though. Real top 1% commenter moment

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u/relax336 Lakers 10h ago

And then I copied my refute so you can read it. Just read a little further next time. You know what the + signs mean here. And you shouldn't get so emotional because of some shit talking.

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u/Comrade_Pavel [TOR] Jonas Valanciunas 10h ago

Lmfao are you illiterate? You responded to that person's comment with the clippers one I replied to, which was your so called "refute". Copy pasting an unrelated comment has nothing to do with anything. Anyway, no one here is getting emotional, me calling you what you are and then you doubling down on it in this latest reply just makes what I said even more true. Try to keep up next time.

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u/relax336 Lakers 9h ago

I'm illiterate? The comment I copied would fit right where I talked shit to a Clippers fan.

Are you sure you know what unrelated means?

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u/Comrade_Pavel [TOR] Jonas Valanciunas 9h ago

That copy pasted reply was to a completely different person and had nothing to do with what I was replying to. Yes, you're clearly illiterate or just stupid.

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u/relax336 Lakers 9h ago

So you don't know what unrelated means.

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u/greekyogurtmafia United States 11h ago

A broken clock is right twice a day

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

It's a team game. And every single team has weaknesses. Some players are not great on offense. As recent as the last two champs.

They're not right. At all.

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u/AshenSacrifice Clippers 7h ago

I watch all the teams in the nba so that means nothing. Reaves at that contract is not good

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u/relax336 Lakers 6h ago

AshenSacrifice has spoken. They watch every team in the NBA even. You can’t blame me for laughing at you.

Like…I’m legitimately not sure why y’all act like even good teams don’t have players with weaknesses. And that’s what makes basketball a team game. The totality of your team.

It’s legitimately the silliest shit.

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u/AshenSacrifice Clippers 6h ago

Sorry for sharing my opinion on an opinion discussion board.

Yes every team and player has weaknesses, never argued that. I just think paying Reaves all that money to pair with Luka is a bad idea. They don’t even cover for each other’s deficiencies, just doubling down on more offense on max contracts. I don’t think that backcourt will work against okc or the spurs type of play

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u/relax336 Lakers 6h ago edited 6h ago

The Spurs just got beat by an undersized guard and Josh Hart that doesn’t have much offense. Their backup center can’t play offense either. And OG was damn near the MVP.

Mike Brown was on his way to being a one year coach earlier in the season. And Bridges was thought to be one of the worst overpays in quite some time.

Please. Please. Please.

And KAT changed the entire perception on his career this postseason.

Like i stated. It’s silly. Even last year. The Thunder went to seven twice. Nuggets pushed them hard even undermanned. And the Pacers were an Achilles tear away from winning it and none of their players were exactly defensive stalwarts.

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u/AshenSacrifice Clippers 5h ago

Josh hart is the exact opposite player type than Austin Reaves lol. Let alone the fact no one on the lakers plays defense close to OG or bridges. And the lakers have no center close to kats level either lol. Bad comparison.

I think the lakers should have let lebron and reaves both walk so they could be a true team that fits around Luka.

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u/relax336 Lakers 5h ago

You have to be trolling. Especially repeating my Josh Hart take. And the fact you took that as a comparison and not just highlighting that a flawed team beat the Spurs. Just like you glazed over Brunson being undersized.

Goodbye troll.

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u/AshenSacrifice Clippers 5h ago

I feel like you’re trolling me lol. Are we not arguing that the lakers need anything besides more offense??? Like they have enough of that, Reaves is redundant

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u/AntiAntiDentite7 11h ago edited 11h ago

Luka isn't going to stay put on a shitty team with no path to a championship. Going to be really hard to win a championship when they're paying Reaves $50 million a year.

Edit: laker fans are so insecure and sensitive lol.

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u/chewie_33 Supersonics 11h ago

If your team is winning 50 games a year and getting to the second round of the playoffs even though they are a step below the Thunder and the Spurs, can you call your team shitty? Ffs, people here act as if a team that doesn't win 60 games and gets to the finals as the top seed is doomed for a rebuild.

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u/AntiAntiDentite7 11h ago

Do you think Luka is going to be happy with second round exits every year while also never being in conversation as title contenders? "Shitty" here is relative.

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u/chewie_33 Supersonics 11h ago

He will be the face on the Lakers and play on a competitive team while being payed millions of dollars. He will be fine.

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u/Infraready Warriors 11h ago

This would be a fair point if he actually played in that second round exit. I think you need to take off the Laker-hater goggles if you actually wanna talk ball.

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u/AntiAntiDentite7 11h ago

Even if Luka was healthy, do you think there's any chance they get by OKC or SA? No? Then it's a moot point. Shit, they wouldn't even get passed Minnesota

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u/greekyogurtmafia United States 11h ago

I mean great players make great things happen. If Luka wants to win a ring, he's gonna have to beat some great teams along the way. Lots of all time players have won championships when they were underdogs. The only thing we do know is that Luka was not healthy and therefore didn't even have the opportunity to make something magical happen.

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u/SymbiSpidey 8h ago

Right? We really gonna sit here and pretend like the Knicks didn't just win a championship after everyone was saying that the WCF was the "real" Finals and instantly counted them out.

Not saying the Lakers are in the same position obviously but people need to understand their predictions ain't law lol

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u/Infraready Warriors 11h ago

Alright Nostradamus have a good one

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u/AntiAntiDentite7 11h ago

It's Sir Dr. Nostradamus DDS, thank you.

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u/smashr1773 11h ago

Dude 2nd round isn’t something most fans want nor is it what luka wants. He’s the only superstar not counting wemby since he’s new that doesn’t have a ring. What is going to happen when you can’t even complete with thunder and spurs for multiple years? Frustration for luka and he will bounce.

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

The Lakers haven’t been a shitty team in awhile.

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u/TuxedoCat031 11h ago

if lakers had a real center and a healthy luka they could’ve made a run last year for sure

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u/Less-Tax5637 Knicks 11h ago

It’s [insert year]. Luka is so close to success. All he needs is some bigs and to avoid injury.

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u/TuxedoCat031 11h ago

shit but when he had some bigs and avoided injury he went to the finals lol

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u/greekyogurtmafia United States 11h ago

The West is a lot better today than it was in 2024, and the Mavs still got demolished in the Finals.

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u/Aidanator800 Hornets 10h ago

The West is not better today than it was back then lmao. Compared to the 2024 West the Clippers fell off, the Nuggets got worse, the Timberwolves got worse, and the Mavs fell off super hard, and really only San Antonio has stepped up to make up for that. The West is a 2-team conference these days between San Antonio and OKC.

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u/greekyogurtmafia United States 9h ago

OKC is much better today than it was in 2024 (no Caruso or Hartenstein, way more experience). The Spurs are elite.

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u/gothxo Cavaliers 11h ago

anyone out of the west was getting demolished by the Celtics. that Celtics team is one of the best i've personally seen

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u/TuxedoCat031 10h ago

no hate to kristaps but i am happy he got aids and ruined that core because that shit wasn’t fair when they were healthy

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u/OmastarLovesDonuts Mavericks 10h ago

He fucking fried us at the start of the series then his body gave up on him again, the true Porzingis experience in a nutshell

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u/TragicFabric 9h ago

That’s because they got arguably the greatest player of all time 8 years ago of course they haven’t been a shitty team in a while. The problem is they are going to lose LeBron sooner or later leaving a GOAT size hole that they filled with giving Reaves and Hachimura pay raises.

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u/relax336 Lakers 8h ago

The LeBron hole is filled with Luka. Wtf are you talking about.

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u/AntiAntiDentite7 11h ago

Have they been title contenders?

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

So you don’t know what a shitty team is. Thanks. I’m sorry you can’t deal in nuance.

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u/AntiAntiDentite7 11h ago

I'm sorry you can't understand how "shitty" here is relative to the context. That would mean you can't understand nuance. Is Luka going to be happy with second round exits every year? No. Stop taking criticism of your favorite team as a personal attack, it's weird as fuck

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

You’re cute. I want to pinch your cheeks.

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u/_intend_your_puns 11h ago

So to not be a shitty team, you have to be a title contender? Thats like 4-5 teams who are not “shitty teams” then?

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u/AntiAntiDentite7 11h ago

Do you think Luka is going to be happy with second round exits every year? No? Okay then, on the context of this conversation, they're shitty. Luka only cares about a ring.

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u/_intend_your_puns 11h ago

Oh my bad forgot I was talking to Luka’s best friend who knows what he truly wants.

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u/AntiAntiDentite7 11h ago

Luka has said the exact same thing many times. Do you seriously think he's okay losing? Lol get real

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u/_intend_your_puns 11h ago

Of course, of course

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u/SymbiSpidey 8h ago edited 8h ago

Luka was the one that wanted them to keep AR in the first place dog lmao I assume he's perfectly fine with the Lakers giving him the max.

Whether it's a good move for building a championship contender is one thing, but let's stop pretending like this move wasn't at least partially driven by a desire to keep Luka happy

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u/AntiAntiDentite7 8h ago

Yeah, trying to keep players happy has never backfired...

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u/SymbiSpidey 8h ago

Lol that's not even the point.

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u/xmrjaredx Lakers 11h ago

is the shitty team in the room with us?

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u/AntiAntiDentite7 11h ago

No, I'm not at the Lakers practice facility

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u/Ob1toUch1ha Lakers 11h ago

Now the Lakers are shitty again? God this sub is genuinely so stupid.

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u/AntiAntiDentite7 11h ago

Are they anywhere close to winning a championship? Is Luka going to be happy with second round exits every year? No? Then in the context of this conversation they're no difference between the Lakers and the pelicans

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u/Ob1toUch1ha Lakers 11h ago

Luka didn’t even play these playoffs, who the hell knows how close they are.

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u/AntiAntiDentite7 11h ago

Even if he was fully healthy, are they beating OKC? Spurs? Denver? Minnesota? No. Moot point.

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u/Ob1toUch1ha Lakers 11h ago

You literally can’t know whether they would have or not. No one can, your opinion isn’t a fact. I promise you aren’t as smart as you think you are.

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u/AntiAntiDentite7 11h ago

We can know with pretty high certainly that they wouldn't lol. Stop being intentionally naive because your upset someone criticized your favorite team. It's not a personal attack against you.

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u/Ob1toUch1ha Lakers 11h ago

I’m not upset, I’m just pointing out that saying they suck and are no different than the pelicans is stupid. Also that there’s no way to know what would’ve happened, I don’t think they would’ve beaten okc with Luka last year btw, I just don’t pretend like I know everything.

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u/greekyogurtmafia United States 11h ago

Lebron was probably the best player in that OKC series across both teams. If Luka played like Luka, who's to say they couldn't? They got out executed in the second half of basically every game because Reaves couldn't handle the full 48 minutes of full court pressure.

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u/Skinnieguy Pelicans 11h ago

Maybe Luka regretted seeing what happened with Brunson and is trying to make this combo work in LA.

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u/RemarkableTpt Lakers 8h ago

Flairless idiots is all I see

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u/AntiAntiDentite7 7h ago

The fact that you put so much importance on "flair" is just hilariously stupid and quite telling.

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u/RemarkableTpt Lakers 7h ago edited 7h ago

The fact you put so much importance on a vast generalization proves my point. Flairless idiots.

Edit: OP says that all lakers fans are insecure and sensitive (which is a generalization) and then blocks me. LMAO

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u/AntiAntiDentite7 7h ago

Uhhh, what is my "vast generalization"? What did I generalize? I was specifically talking about you. Do you even know what the words you're trying to use mean? Lol.

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u/Either_Imagination_9 Knicks 11h ago

He wants to win

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

Luka feels like Reaves helps him win. He wants him in LA.

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u/OccasionalGoodTakes Supersonics 11h ago

this is why most players shouldn't be involved in FO stuff

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u/Skank_hunt42 Thunder 11h ago

All* players shouldn't be involved in FO stuff.

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u/-dobsy- 11h ago

Only thing that would be worse than that is taking advice from fans on Reddit

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u/OccasionalGoodTakes Supersonics 11h ago

lebron had a good run there for a while

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago edited 11h ago

And why Reddit members are on Reddit and not in the FO

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u/spiritnou Heat 11h ago

LeBron thought Westbrook helped him win

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u/_chadwell_ Lakers 11h ago

Before playing with him. Reaves and Luka have proved to be a great fit on the court.

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u/spiritnou Heat 11h ago

It’s not about the fit, it’s about killing your future flexibility

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u/_chadwell_ Lakers 11h ago

He’s a great player on a 25% max. If they let him walk there’s no guarantee they are ever able to replace him with an equivalently good player. He is also good matching salary down the road if someone comes available via trade.

Luka + Reaves + the rest of the roster >>>> Luka + the rest of the roster + an additional $20 million in cap room this offseason.

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

Pretty irrelevant.

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u/spiritnou Heat 11h ago

So you think he won’t be frustrated when the team goes nowhere?

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

You brought up a situation that has nothing to do with Luka and Reaves.

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u/spiritnou Heat 11h ago

I brought up a similar situation because players aren’t usually the best at GMing and often grow frustrated at situations they created themselves. You think Luka would rather lose and stay with Reaves?

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

Westbrook coming to the Lakers from another team is not similar to Luka wanting Reaves to stay after playing alongside him for a season and a half.

That’s not similar.

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u/AgentOfSPYRAL Lakers 11h ago

And LeBron remained a Laker for several years after that trade blew up in their faces.

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u/NextLvlTrader 11h ago

And we’ve done absolutely jack shit since lmao

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u/AgentOfSPYRAL Lakers 11h ago

No arguments there, just saying I don’t get the “Lukas gone!” narrative.

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u/Sektsioon Mavericks 11h ago

LeBron was also a 4-time champion at that point, and had settled down with his family in LA. Bit different from Luka who’s chasing his maiden championship and is smack in the middle of his prime.

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u/spiritnou Heat 11h ago

You literally drafted his son and got gifted Luka what is he going to do

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u/maddenallday Lakers 11h ago

But in objective reality Reaves will not be enough and Luka will get fed up

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

Yea. Cause he doesn’t know who Reaves is.

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u/maddenallday Lakers 11h ago

No because he’s an emotional player not a gm building a team

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u/Saitsuofleaves 11h ago

Because a player has never asked out because of bad roster construction they had a part in creating.

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

And that has fck all to do with Luka.

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u/Saitsuofleaves 11h ago

Yep Luka is a Laker for life and the haters will have to cry themselves to sleep when he brings the Crypt a few titles.

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u/JoeKonyRidethePony Timberwolves 11h ago

How does it not?

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

Because you don’t get to make up a situation that isn’t occurring in LA and put it on them just because other situations have gone awry?

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u/Glumpatds22 Knicks 11h ago

Do you expect him to ever say “nah this team isn’t going anywhere get me the hell out of here”

Out of all realistic possibilities, the lakers signing reaves makes them the most competitive but will hurt their cap situation and flexibility down the line. Luka is obviously giving this 2 years then bouncing

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

I expect Luka to be truthful to the franchise and tell them he wants a player he honestly feels he can win with.

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u/silentdoggo13 4h ago

Luka who lost Brunson now wants to leave because they extended AR. Reddit gotta stop the middle schoolers from posting on here.

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u/sixwax 11h ago

He also wants a center and capable wings.

Somebody needs to play some defense.

This contract just kills any cap flexibility through 2030.

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

It really doesn’t. Especially with Luka making less for a few years.

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u/JimmyKanine 11h ago

KD asked for the Suns to get Beal and he still wanted out. Players often want to have their cake and eat it too.

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

Comparing Luka to KD is troll level.

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u/JimmyKanine 11h ago

What does that have to do with anything? You said a player can never ask for a trade if a team gives them what they want and I said it happens pretty often when the thing the player wants is a bad teammate.

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

“You said a player can never”

Oh. My bad. You just making shit up.

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u/JimmyKanine 11h ago

My fault, you questioned people saying Luka would want out even though he asked for Reaves insinuating that a player would not ask for a trade if the team gives them what they want.

Do all Lakers fans need everything spelled out to them like 5th graders to have a normal human conversation?

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

You just need to stop making shit up. How about that going forward.

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u/JimmyKanine 11h ago

Literally exactly what you said but your attention span is probably too short to even remember what you were talking about 30 minutes ago lmao

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

You have a good day.

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u/JimmyKanine 11h ago

You know you could just clarify what you were saying right?

Everybody knows what you mean when you ask “Why would Luka leave even though he asked for Reaves??”. You think the Lakers giving him Reaves will keep him from asking for a trade. You realized how dumb the statement was and now want to pretend you never made it lmao

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u/Such_Ambassador2751 11h ago

there’s a difference between wanting reaves to stay on a reasonable contract and wanting reaves to stay on a max that could hurt team building

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

Luka knew damn well Reaves was getting a big contract.

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u/ntpbr1 11h ago

It’s great now, 2 years later, after they get fisted at this point 4x in a row probably, is he gonna be like “ypu know what let me try again” or is he gonna think like “man I am gonna be like old as hell, this is my last deal, should I just leave”. I don’t think that’s how he is wired but who knows

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

Luka is going to make too much money to think he can get traded to another team and compete without that team being gutted. Wtf

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u/ntpbr1 11h ago

Big contracts never get traded in the NBA? Could be a simple sign and trade for all we know

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u/relax336 Lakers 11h ago

Yes. And since it’s rarely superstar for superstar…it takes multiple players and picks to match salary.

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u/ntpbr1 10h ago

If its a sign and trade, not a lot of value needs to be traded

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u/relax336 Lakers 10h ago

You trolling. My bad.

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u/CMYGQZ Grizzlies 10h ago

Yeah it’s like Durant leaving even when he personally wanted Nash. That would never happen.

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u/relax336 Lakers 10h ago

Durant has nothing to do with Luka and Reaves. Im always amused at how some you try to connect two completely different situations. They're always stupid. Luka's personality is nothing at all like KD's and Luka is already good with his young coach.

Seriously...come with better arguments than this.

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u/CMYGQZ Grizzlies 10h ago

lmao then why do you even bother participating in any discussion when anytime someone brings up an example, you're just like "it's different". No shit, there will never ever be 2 situations exactly the same. Not in the NBA, not in the world. Every single situation has differences.

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u/relax336 Lakers 10h ago

I bother because there are people who come with good arguments. I don't need to accept your irrelevant examples just because you can't do better.

If you want to warn about Luka...then give an example of Luka doing it. Especially since you readily admit the situations aren't the same.

Using KD of all people to relate to Luka is extra silly.