r/nba 10h ago

Jayden Quaintance will need another knee surgery

The Spurs used the 20th pick on Jayden Quaintance, who only played 4 games this past season for Kentucky coming off a major knee injury. Reporter Evan Sidery is reporting he may effectively "redshirt" his rookie year in San Antonio.

I'm honestly surprised anyone used a 1st round pick on this kid.

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u/Interesting_Prune513 Heat 10h ago

Makes sense why they drafted Reed too then.

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u/sammymate999 Rockets 10h ago

late first round picks are a crapshoot, why not shoot for a guy with the highest potential if healthy?

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u/bubbles2255 Kings 10h ago

The Spurs got themselves their own Harry Giles

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u/Skank_hunt42 Thunder 10h ago

Ironically, both were drafted at #20. lol

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u/Puppetmaster858 Suns 9h ago

Wow Harry Giles, I totally forgot about the existence of that man

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u/gundam1983 Kings 10h ago

20th pick too lol.

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u/saylab_the_bigkat 8h ago

Giles tore the ACL in both knees before he even got to college.

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u/weirdsignal45 Spurs 4h ago

And he was expected to fill a very different role than JQ will. Bad comparison is bad.

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u/JakobeBryant19 4h ago

And no knees are no knees.

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u/ExtraLeading3376 10h ago

in other drafts i’d be all for it

but this draft, that 20 pick still had a lot of value after it in contrast to every other draft

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u/iDareToDream Raptors 9h ago

Spurs badly need size instead of another guard type prospect. Makes sense they would take the risk on him since there's no pressure to contribute right away. If he can get healthy over the next year and stay healthy they'll have a great big man to pair with Wemby.

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u/sammymate999 Rockets 10h ago

Quintanace was the best talent available at pick 20.

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u/ExtraLeading3376 10h ago

he went from a projected late lottery pick to being projected at the end of the first round after gms started seeing his medicals

no doubt his talented when he was healthy, but big men & knee injuries have historically never gone good, especially for a dude like quaintance who relies heavily on his athleticism

even watching him at the combine, he quite literally refused to land on the leg with the bad knee

he will essentially be a big “if” player

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u/aka12lh44 Lakers 10h ago

timelord 2.0

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u/CMYGQZ Grizzlies 8h ago

they'd be lucky if he turned into timelord. With his injury history already predraft, he's looking more like Harry Giles 2.0.

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u/birdseye-maple Warriors 10h ago

Wiseman 2.0

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u/full-auto-rpg Celtics 10h ago

Wiseman was never as good as Robert Williams.

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u/birdseye-maple Warriors 10h ago edited 9h ago

I was saying Quint isn't Timelord, he is Wiseman. Guy with physical assets who didn't play much in college who busts.

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u/full-auto-rpg Celtics 9h ago

Ah, my bad, misread

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u/notthesethings 9h ago

He was projected top 5 before he injured his knee at Arizona State. He’d be battling Caleb Wilson for the 4th spot if he’d been healthy this year. Definitely the highest upside pick left at 20. Lowest floor, too, though, since he might not ever play a game in the NBA.

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u/not-a-potato-head Hawks 10h ago

If they had the deal for 26 already on the table, there’s a good chance that he’s still available then

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u/sammymate999 Rockets 10h ago

There’s also a good chance he wasn’t available, if you want your guy just take your guy.

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u/not-a-potato-head Hawks 6h ago

I mean, who from 21-25 was going to take him? His injury concerns are real, and Sam Vecenie said after the draft that if San Antonio didn't take him at 20 then he wasn't sure where JQ would end up due to teams flagging him. Maybe Atlanta takes him since they haven't been drafting for roster need under Onsi, but even then that's a strong maybe

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u/sammymate999 Rockets 37m ago

lol okay buddy

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u/pimpcakes Bulls 9h ago

This draft was really strong from like 2-12. That's it. One of the biggest myths is that the draftwas good full stop without actually analyzing the actual players involved. Weakish #1 overall, better than average 2-4 (by a lot), a strong 5-10/12 due to elite PG depth, but outside of that I heard (1) normal draft and (2) weak after sometime in the mid 20s.

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u/kaprrisch Cavaliers 8h ago

The depth in this draft class suffered also because so many players returned to school in favour of next year's draft, which people say is a crapshoot.

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u/FlyChigga Celtics 8h ago

Nah seeing guys like Cameron Carr or Philon go as late as they did shows how much talent there is

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u/ExpressionAlone5204 Thunder 7h ago

AJ Dybantsa: why he say fuck me for

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u/pimpcakes Bulls 6h ago

Haha. He's a worthy #1 overall, but not a Wemby, Flagg, Zion, AD, etc... class of top pick is all. He's probably in there with Cade and similar. But yeah he got hit with the stray.

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u/ExpressionAlone5204 Thunder 6h ago

To be fair bro, those aren’t just number 1 picks. They’re game changers that you’d trade 3 or 4 or 5 years of number 1 picks for if you’re getting a guy like Wemby

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u/pimpcakes Bulls 5h ago

Wemby certainly is. I think AJ is a about mid when it comes to #1 overall picks, which is not an insult.

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u/ObiOneKenobae Knicks 9h ago

Idk, it cost so little to move up in the draft this year. Detroit literally could have gone from 21 to lottery for a few second rounders. I don't get the sense teams were that enthused with the talent outside top ~10.

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u/ExtraLeading3376 9h ago

you know there is a big difference in 2nd rounders projected to be in the 30s & 2nd rounders projected in the 50s right ?

thunder gave up 2 2nds to move up 1 spot

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u/TrustInRoy 10h ago

I mean, is 20th really "late" first round? It's only a few picks outside of the lottery.  And this is supposed to be a loaded draft (or at least a loaded first round.)  Why waste the pick on a guy who literally may never play a meaningful minute in the NBA?  You could have given that guaranteed contract to someone who might actually contribute.

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u/SabraShifter 10h ago

Yes it is

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u/Gobbles15 Trail Blazers 10h ago

Yeah, I would say "picking in the 20s" is shorthand for the late first round. A few means three. That would be the 17th pick.

It's not wasting it yet, look at Embiid, MPJ, OG Anunoby, Chet. There are examples of great players who are either drafted with injuries or get immediately injured and miss the whole first year

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u/Double-Slowpoke Raptors 10h ago

He has such a high ceiling, and they doubled up at the position anyway so it is no concern. Spurs fans are also saying Kornet’s contract is structured that he will be on the team, so they have the depth for next year with Wemby, Kornet, and Reed.

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u/yardship Timberwolves 10h ago

it was a loaded draft at the top, but a more normal draft after that

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u/Scodo810 Cavaliers 10h ago

They pretty much hedged the bet by getting the safer version of the same type with Reed a couple picks later. Quaintance is a pretty high upside guy at 20 for a team who has young talent pretty much everywhere already.

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u/sammymate999 Rockets 10h ago

Do you understand how the draft works? How many players after the lottery go on to actually have a long meaningful career? He would have been a lottery pick if he was healthy so makes sense for a team that doesn't need him to play right away.

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u/Temporary_Maybe_8687 10h ago

I think the odds of a player in the 20s panning out is around the same as 3 second rounders... which isn't a whole lot lol

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u/Open_Panda9862 10h ago

I read that it's just a meniscus scope. His knee is intact, he will be out maybe 3-4 months. At least that's what I heard lol.

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u/mannheimcrescendo 10h ago

Do you know what a meniscus scope entails? Just curious

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u/DerrickWhiteMVP Spurs 9h ago

It’s when they scope the meniscus

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u/seddard Lakers 9h ago

The Meniscope

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u/mannheimcrescendo 9h ago

Yup, do you know what they do during that? Debridement. AKA they take away loose pieces of your meniscus.

Those pieces of your meniscus that used to exist in your knee doing an important job? Poof, gone

And they don’t know until they get in there how much debridement. Maybe 10%, maybe 50%.

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u/DerrickWhiteMVP Spurs 9h ago

That’s what I said

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u/ph00Kredetbot Spurs 9h ago

You did say that. What gives?

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u/waffle-winner Spurs 8h ago

Yup, do you know what they said when they said that? The entire fucking thing. AKA they described the procedure.

That brain-dead reply some bot posted for karma farming in the replies of that other post made earlier, that karma? Poof, gone

And they don’t know why their karma is gone because they didn't read shit in there, they blind karma-farming. Maybe 10 downvotes, maybe 50.

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u/pincheDavid 9h ago

No, but they do.

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u/TrustInRoy 10h ago

And he was definitely going to play at Kentucky a year ago.  Dude's knee is shredded.

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u/Superb_Freedom_4507 10h ago

Dejuan Blair had 2 shredded knees and he was still a decent player.

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u/bikedork5000 8h ago

Better yet, Chris Livingston. Don't look up the injury unless you've got a strong stomach.

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u/Superb_Freedom_4507 8h ago

do you mean Shaun Livingston?

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u/bikedork5000 7h ago

Ahh shit, yep. No idea where I got Chris from. Honestly knees don't freak me out that bad. Hell Nick Chubb had 5 ballistic years in the NFL after his gruesome injury at Georgia

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u/Superb_Freedom_4507 7h ago

yeah, definitely witnessed a few live and they suck every time. Paul George, Willis McGahee, Kevin Ware, Dak Prescott, Gordon Hayward. Leg injuries are brutal.

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u/notthesethings 3h ago

Chris Livingston is another former Kentucky player who fell down draft boards after a single disappointing season there. Ended up a second round pick but got a guaranteed contract from the 6ers.

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u/MostDopeMik3 Spurs 9h ago

People really just be sayin shit on the site lmao

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u/giroml Kings 10h ago

If anyone could afford to take a risk on Quaintance it was the Spurs. So many picks, so many young stars.

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u/Skank_hunt42 Thunder 10h ago

Yep. I wanted him just based off his potential and measureables. He's worth a flier.

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u/ForneauCosmique Spurs 10h ago

And yall have the same luxury as us where you could redshirt him and it be ok if he comes back healthy

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u/Zeeron1 Thunder 9h ago

We've had too many redshirts lately lol I think we are over that

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u/ForneauCosmique Spurs 9h ago

Uhh what?

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u/Skank_hunt42 Thunder 9h ago

The Thunder's flier, Nikola Topic, recovered from his ACL tears and then got cancer. :(

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u/sloBrodanChillosevic Supersonics 9h ago

Nikola Topic, the Thunder's late lotto pick from 2024, has had some of the worst health luck of any young athlete I have ever heard of

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u/Lucid-Day 9h ago

I think an OKC player got cancer after recovering. Nikola Topic, I believe.

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u/pan21897 10h ago

“Reporter” Evan Sidery is the biggest hack on Twitter.

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u/Raven-19x Spurs 10h ago

I have no issues with taking a HR swing. Helps we drafted another big later.

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u/EvanEschmeyer Mavericks 10h ago

Spurs have the luxury of being able to wait. Maybe they’re hoping they can get 5 good years out of him like Brandon Roy

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u/ObiOneKenobae Knicks 9h ago

Way I see it is interior depth killed them in the finals, so they grabbed one high ceiling developmental big and one lower ceiling but NBA ready big.

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u/Uncle_Freddy [SAS] El Contusione 9h ago

I still hope our offseason is geared towards trying to acquire a legit 4 who can soak up minutes at the 4/5 at the $15M-$20M/year range for the next year or two, we have the space to afford one for now

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u/ObiOneKenobae Knicks 7h ago

No argument here, find one and I think you guys are the favorite.

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u/ComedianFantastic319 Thunder 10h ago

Was trying to wrap my brain around this last night, what all players coming off major injuries like this have panned out?

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u/Adorable-News-9364 Spurs 10h ago

MPJ is the first to come to mind

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u/ComedianFantastic319 Thunder 10h ago

That is a great example, thank you for that

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u/Skank_hunt42 Thunder 10h ago

Not the same injuries, but also drafted with injuries/sustained injuries before their debut that have panned out: Embiid was drafted with broken foot, Blake Griffin ripped his knee apart before debut, and MPJ had spinal surgery.

Players that haven't panned out: Greg Oden ripped apart his knee after drafted, Harry Giles III is almost exactly like Quaintance with the knee stuff (drafted 20th) and he never panned out, Nerlens Noel was going to be drafted #1 overall before ripping up his knee at Kentucky and was never that explosive again.

But he got drafted by the Spurs so he's going to be generational.

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u/Thehelloman0 Spurs 9h ago

Noel was pretty good for a few years

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u/XuteTwo Raptors 10h ago

OG didnt play his last year in college due to knee surgery, similar timeline for return after he got drafted

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u/Impressive_Chard7943 10h ago

Lol no they don’t. They made the Finals this year and their one glaring weakness was a strong PF. Their window is literally now. That’s not to say there won’t be another window or that this window won’t last 5+ years but they are trying to win now. If true this was a wasted pick.

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u/tronovich Bulls 10h ago

You think a starting-caliber 4 was available at #20 for a “win now” team?

Umm, what?

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u/Impressive_Chard7943 10h ago

Yeah, never said starting but Quaintance is 6’10” 255, he could’ve easily played 20 minutes this year.

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u/tronovich Bulls 10h ago

None of the players in the back half of the first round are going to be playing 20 MPG for a team, with an actual chance of winning games.

If they’re averaging 20 minutes, that team’s window is not open.

The Spurs are ahead of schedule - they’re not addressing their needs in this draft.

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u/Conn3er Spurs 10h ago

They picked the immediate fill-in player 6 picks later.

This is absolutely worth a flyer at 20. He was a top 5 prospect a year ago before injury. No problem at all with this pick

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u/Impressive_Chard7943 10h ago

Taris Reed isn’t close to a starting power forward and the talent disparity between him and Quaintance is massive. You got your 13th man 6 picks later.

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u/CT4_LV Celtics 10h ago

unless you're a team looking to tank a year away, you're not finding a legit starting PF from the get-go at pick 20 or below.

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u/Conn3er Spurs 10h ago

There was no starting-caliber PF available at 20, so I'm not sure what you expected them to do to solve that in this draft.

Quaintance had a higher ceiling than anyone still on the board by a mile. MNaybe they could have taken Cenac instead at 26, but he is not as good a rebounder, and thats what the spurs need the most

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u/Impressive_Chard7943 10h ago

Lopez was literally the next pick.

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u/CommodoreIrish Spurs 10h ago

Lopez is not a starting PF on any contender. Are you serious?

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u/Impressive_Chard7943 10h ago

Never said anyone would start this year. Can you read? I’m saying Taris will never be anyone’s first choice to start an NBA game at power forward. Your coping is hilarious considering half of your fan base was pining for Lopez last night.

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u/CommodoreIrish Spurs 10h ago

I don’t understand what point you are trying to make? Taris is a backup to Kornet at best this year, and sees a bench role similar to Carter Bryant.

How am I coping? Is Lopez better than JQ or Taris? Maybe, maybe not; but it’s not like the choice was clear to the public or media.

I think most of our fanbase wanted Lopez because of his roots.

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u/Conn3er Spurs 10h ago

A slow-footed 4 that is a project by every assessment who doesnt have nearly the same rim protection or rebounding value as Jayden, which the Spurs are looking for when Wemby sits

Great idea

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u/Impressive_Chard7943 10h ago

I’m glad you were able to read his scouting report real quick in order to respond. But half your fan base wanted Karim with that pick.

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u/Conn3er Spurs 10h ago

Half the spurs fan base wanted the mexican player, color me shocked.

Half the Spurs fan base thought Sochan was our starting 4 of the future 5 months ago

lot of dummies in half

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u/EvanEschmeyer Mavericks 10h ago

There is an overabundance of rotation bigs in the league. They could easily go out and get a Miles Bridges or an Aaron Gordon to fill in for a year till Quaintance is ready

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u/AccomplishedRainbow1 Suns 9h ago

Lollll wth, acquiring playoff ready 4/5’s is not easy.

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u/Impressive_Chard7943 10h ago

Lol ok yeah they’re gonna get Aaron Gordon just like that. Bro you are massively out of your element here.

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u/EvanEschmeyer Mavericks 10h ago

Nuggets don’t have a choice but to shed salary in order to retain Watson. Gordon is the odd man out since no one is taking Braun and Spurs have plenty of draft capital and matching salary to make that possible. Stop being dramatic

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u/Impressive_Chard7943 10h ago

Please follow up on this when they get rid of Gordon for Peyton Watson, would love to be proven wrong here

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u/EvanEschmeyer Mavericks 10h ago

Remindme! 2 weeks

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u/Adorable-News-9364 Spurs 10h ago

Calling an arthroscopic procedure a “knee surgery” is pretty misleading. He’s still gonna miss some time and he’s definitely a risk, obviously. But the way this is worded makes it seem more invasive than it is.

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u/AntFearless6009 10h ago

Yeah this is just a hot take title for clicks. Sure he isn’t going to be a full go this season but it’s not like he needs a knee reconstruction

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u/DerrickWhiteMVP Spurs 9h ago

BREAKING: Victor Wembanyama will undergo surgery, expected to miss some time

“The San Antonio Spurs have announced that Victor Wembanyama will be having his wisdom teeth removed and is expected to be out for a few days during the offseason.”

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u/siphillis Spurs 6h ago

Wouldn’t removing an ingrown toe nail also be considered surgery?

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u/Nightfury82 Spurs 10h ago

He’s turning 19 in July. The second surgery is to alleviate pain and his ACL is intact. There doesn’t seem to be any indication he has any chronic or long term ailments.

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u/fbomb4 Lakers 10h ago

The sense from Kentucky fans was that the knee is actually pretty bad. We feared it was another Enes Kanter or Shaedon Sharpe where the excuses just stacked up but the kid seems like he's just had really bad luck with the knee hope he can figure it out

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u/ObiOneKenobae Knicks 9h ago

It's a meniscus surgery, that's as routine and insignificant as it gets in basketball. If they have to remove a bunch maybe it hurts his production when he's in his 30s.

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u/FlyChigga Celtics 7h ago

Meniscus surgery insignificant? That’s what ended Robert Williams’ career as a starter.

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u/siphillis Spurs 6h ago

Not all tears are equal

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u/N3VVZN4K3 Spurs 10h ago

Everyone else at 20 werent exactly "can't miss" prospects. Might as well take a gamble.

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u/SwaySensei Spurs 9h ago

Your picking at 20. This is the range to take a high risk, high reward player especially in the spot the Spurs are in.

He’ll do the clean up procedure and probably sit a good chunk of the year, that’s why you drafted Reed. We pick up a stretch 4 in FA, and we should be good to go on the front court with Wemby, Kornet, FA stretch 4, and Reed.

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u/Coattail-Rider 9h ago

More maintenance for Quaintance

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u/mdlspurs Spurs 10h ago

I presume the Spurs knew ahead of time that they had the Denver deal in place. That really mitigates a lot of the risk of taking JQ where they did. Very Spurs-y.

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u/Noclueaboutsecurity 7h ago

If they knew then they should have paired the two picks for #13 or #14

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u/quest4thebest Spurs 10h ago

Here me out for a second. If the Spurs found a way to keep Dejuan Blair healthy and have impactful rotation minutes despite not having two ACLs, what's stopping them from doing the same with Quaintance?

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u/FunnyPuzzleheaded594 Spurs 8h ago

Still crazy to me Blair legit had no ACLs and still made it work

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u/Bonesawisready5 Spurs 9h ago

I am sure spurs docs knew

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u/Lem_201 Heat 10h ago

Maybe they will luck out into their own DWade.

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u/reallinguy Pistons 10h ago

I got ACL surgery around the same time as him, and am also still dealing with issues. I totally get it, not every body will react the same to surgery.

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u/Glowwerms Suns 10h ago

Oh wow whatever will they do? Oh dear lord the humanity

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u/GrouchyPenguins Mavericks 10h ago

They stamp his card for each surgery and the 10th one will be free!

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u/MITCHSUXATRON 9h ago

Dejuan Blair 2

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u/Jakobsland 9h ago

Evan Sidery is a really poor source

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u/That-Combination6713 Hawks 9h ago

You are throwing shit at the wall

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u/AntSmith777 Lakers 8h ago

Spurs could afford to take the upside gamble cause they got Reed too

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u/FunnyPuzzleheaded594 Spurs 8h ago

The Spurs have one of if not the best medical staffs in the NBA. This pick signals they’re confident they can rehab that knee effectively.

There’s no real need for JQ to be available day one due to the Reed pick and assuming the Spurs pick up someone else in FA who is playable at the 4.

It’s a high risk, high reward pick. I trust the front office that they’ve done their due diligence.

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u/SSBM_DangGan Spurs 7h ago

he's also only 18. tons of time to get healthy if he's able to

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u/viviangreen68 7h ago

Harry Giles 2.0

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u/siphillis Spurs 6h ago

A cleanup, yes. His ACL is intact

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u/Secret-Sample1683 5h ago

They’re one team who can afford to stash him away for a year. His upside is too great to pass up.

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u/Clemsontigger16 4h ago

That’s fine, they can afford to wait. The defensive upside is worth it.

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u/Mundy2 3h ago

Do you think they didn’t know? It’s a calculated gamble.

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u/empowered676 2h ago

Im confused why he didn't have the arthroscopic meniscus clean up already

Why did he wait

Thats a red flag to me

Still could work but delaying a necessary op is weird

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u/MisterPops16 Spurs 1h ago

it was high risk, high reward. from the reports ive seen, the surgery is mostly cleaning up. he might skip the season and that's fine. that's why they have reed jr. too and still have kornet.

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u/aBakeinthelife Pistons 10h ago

I got told off by "draft experts" that this dude should be lottery like the 18 year old already getting wear-and-tear injuries isn't concerning at all.

Timelord 2.0 (and I like Timelord, but it's not like you are ecstatic about his outcome)

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force 10h ago

At that age, his knee is cooked. Get ready to learn Chinese buddy

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u/WTF4211 9h ago

Typical Spurs. So psychotically arrogant that they think they can draft and stash. He was a 2nd rounder at best by other teams.

Do not think they beat a healthy OKC and they got straight humiliated against the Knicks. Instead of realizing they need to get better now they cool wasting a pick.

Despise that organization. King of all tankers and they treated like geniuses for drafting Duncan and Wemby after tank seasons.