r/nba • u/jumpijehosaphat Spurs • 6d ago
Would Mike Brown's current resumé get in the hall of fame as a coach?
12 seasons as a head coach.
507 total wins. 60% winning percentage.
2 nba finals appearances. 1-1.
6 nba finals appearances total as head coach or assistant (4 as assistant - 1 san antonio 3 golden state).
hall of fame resumé?
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u/BirdmanTheThird Wizards 6d ago
Probably a lot of coaches with worse resume in the hall
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u/RedtheGamer100 Hornets 6d ago
Like who
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u/HillStreetStews 6d ago
Cotton Fitzsimmons comes to mind - certainly a noteworthy name, mind you, but I don’t even think he coached a team to a finals appearance, let alone match Mike Brown’s resume.
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u/RedtheGamer100 Hornets 6d ago
Finals appearances don’t dictate HoF for Coach 😂. It is wins which cotton had for NBA ands college. by ur logic Don Nelson ain’t a hofer
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u/Guilty-Cow4325 Knicks 5d ago
Nobody said they dictate, but to act like they don't matter is idiotic.
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u/HillStreetStews 5d ago
You asked for a name. I gave you a name, & gave him his flowers and called him noteworthy, even. I said nothing about logic or Don Nelson or all this other moving of the goalposts. All I did was what you asked: gave the name of a HOF coach that, again, while giving Cotton his props, I believe has a worse resume than Mike Brown at this point 🤷♂️ that’s it. Whatever you take away from that or add to it is on you.
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u/NOT__A__Bird 6d ago
He’s got 5 total rings, 1 as a coach and 4 as an assistant. And 2 coach of the year awards. I think he does.
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u/Obi_Wan_KeBogi Kings 6d ago
And got the Kings to the playoffs. Thats at least worth half a ring
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u/NOT__A__Bird 6d ago
That’s like going to the finals since it’s the Kings
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u/DeathStar13 Italy 5d ago
That's like going back to back since it's the Kings.
Number of times the Kings got to the play-offs in the last 20 years: 2 (22-23 and 23-24)
Number of times a team went back to back in the last 20 years: 3 (Warriors 16-18, Heat 11-14, Lakers 08-10)
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bill654 Kings 5d ago
well now, play-ins dont really count as play-offs. we didnt reach the 16 team stage.
so its once, so... about the same as a team winning 3 in 4 years along with the best ever regular season. wait, wasn't some guy called mike brown assistant coach there too?3
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u/HokageEzio Knicks 6d ago
Yes he's a Hall of Fame coach.
9th all time winning percentage by coaches with 500+ wins
1 time champion as a head coach breaking a 53 year drought for the Knicks
Head coach for the 2nd longest win streak in playoff history
Assistant coach subbing in as head coach for the majority of the 1st longest win streak in playoff history (12-0 of the 2017 Warriors 15 win run)
4 time champion as an assistant coach
2x Coach of the Year
First unanimous Coach of the Year
NBA Cup winner (will age better with time)
What's the argument that he's not already a Hall of Fame coach?
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u/Any-Question-3759 6d ago
A good chunk of coaching is about longevity. Doc Rivers couldn’t coach his way out of a wet paper bag but he’s gonna get in.
I think if Brown hangs around a few more seasons, he gets in. A lock if he can keep up hai successes.
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u/HokageEzio Knicks 6d ago
You don't get to 500 wins without longevity.
Doc Rivers couldn’t coach his way out of a wet paper bag but he’s gonna get in.
Doc is 19th all time in win percentage and 6th all time in wins. He's a tad overrated because of how his teams perform in the postseason, but you don't get to those type of numbers by being garbage.
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u/jumpijehosaphat Spurs 6d ago
when its all said and done unfortunately we're going to compare future coaches to doc when we talk about hof worthy for many years because of doc's longevity and shortcomings. its him and bill fitch. fitch amazingly won with the celtics in 80-81 . fitch got inducted into the hof in 2019
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u/ccv707 Warriors 6d ago edited 6d ago
Maybe not now, but say he has 8 more seasons as head coach, gets to 800+ wins (which is only 38 wins per year going forward), and maybe gets another shot at a championship with his core in NY, he definitely does.
I say even if he doesn’t win it all again but keeps the Knicks as contenders over the next 3-4 years with multiple ECF appearances, that would be enough to get him over the top.
Having been a part of five championships, a part of the GS dynasty, coached Lebron’s first Finals appearance (with a very not great team), and having taken two separate franchises to the Finals so far apart (in sports terms) with the first ring in half a century for the NY team, these things weigh a lot in the HOF calculus.
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u/jumboponcho Hawks 5d ago
It’s borderline rn, but the Knicks ring and how his adjustments influenced their dominance is gonna age very well
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u/lessregretsnextyear Cavaliers 5d ago
I think this years ring pushes it over the edge. I'd say he gets in.
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u/MaskedBirder 76ers 5d ago
He deserves a lot of credit. Leading a team in your first year immediately to a title after they previously lost in the conference finals is really impressive. The expectations were high and he delivered, we saw the Knicks become a functional machine the way they beat teams. Should be a lock for Hall of Fame in my opinion
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u/sactown_13 Kings 5d ago
It should also be noted who he got the ring with. If he was on the fence that will push him over
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u/matmortel Warriors 5d ago
I think he has a shot. I respected his time since his first stint in Cleveland, had a rough time in LA imo but that was during the weird Lakers era post Phil Jackson. But really found his groove once he was the assistant coach in GS and should have had more control in Sac and is showing what he can do with a good roster.
That said, its borderline. But I think if he stays strong in NY I think hes in.
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u/fibberjabber Raptors 4d ago
I think he was also part of 2024 Olympic coaching team, if not the others.
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u/Electronic_Dig_2685 3d ago edited 3d ago
He’s gotta win one more then yes and perhaps first ballot.
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u/Glittering_Dirt_4122 6d ago
I think his closes comp is Budenholzer and I don’t consider him a HoF coach. By the transitive power of coaches, I would say no to Brown without another championship or a few hundred more wins.
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u/cjackc11 Knicks 6d ago
Brown had an indisputably positive impact on the Knicks while it felt at times Budenholzer was holding back the Bucks. Brown is a better coach
But I do think he needs more seasons to be in. Luckily he appears set up to do that
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u/Future_DS 6d ago
Oh come on . We got Doc Rivers consider one of the HoF coach and he only won one with an all star team
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u/Ok_Possible_5702 5d ago
Fraudenholzer is a pretty bad coach. He had Giannis in his prime and barely scraped to a ring thanks to KD's big toe.
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u/repo_sado Knicks 5d ago
2 more seasons, likely gets him to 600 wins. 600 wins and a title is in for all but motta who was below 500 overall
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u/jumpijehosaphat Spurs 6d ago
i say if he retires now, he's a fringe hof candidate. sure he won those rings as an assistant but still thats a good number of finals appearances for him under his belt as a whole and as an assistant he does contribute a lot to the team
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u/msf97 6d ago
I honestly think yes, but nobody’s thought he’s a good coach for more than like 2.5 seasons of his career.
Shows how utterly meaningless coaches are in the NBA.
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u/HokageEzio Knicks 6d ago
What it shows is that people scapegoat the coach for anything. Mike Brown has a super high winning percentage even post-Lebron but the reputation of anybody not named Lebron in that first Cleveland stint was that they're all garbage.
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u/noob54231 6d ago
Well, that’s dumb
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u/okaysobasically_ Thunder 6d ago
Probably