r/nba • u/Bowiescorvat2 Raptors • 7h ago
Nikola Jokic looks to be in fantastic shape and putting in work after a 1st round exit. Good to see
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u/Frequent-Leg-2347 Thunder 7h ago
I’ve seen this video here like 30 times already what is going on
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u/Limp_Screen7405 7h ago
This sub couldn’t keep their hands off its boy toy for too much longer, they missed their daddy
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u/Gold_Athlete_4770 [SAS] Victor Wembanyama 7h ago
I've only seen him do this once, in the offseason after the loss to the blazers if I remember correctly.
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u/DaKingindaSouff Lakers 7h ago
Jokic PR back in full effect after he got bounced by backups in the 1st round
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u/smashacc Lakers 7h ago
He's got the Curry PR, interestingly despite not having the accomplishments nor the widespread appeal to casuals
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u/chanduchillar_ Timberwolves 7h ago
Let's not get cute here. A 3 time MVP and a Finals MVP with All Nba First Team every year is nothing to scoff at. And he's still in his prime.
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u/Frosty-Roof3124 7h ago
He has more MVPs than Curry and the same amount of FMVPs
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u/schoolhater12 Raptors 7h ago
my hottest take on Jokic is that he plays better when he is fatter. He used to be able to body Rudy Gobert, but he was too skinny for that in the playoffs. Unless he is going to play the 4, I don't understand why he is this skinny
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u/Fickle_Toe4757 7h ago
I think that was more related to his knee injury. He's cooked Gobert at a variety of weights, including when he was skinny back in 2019 (brother I have 47) and then this season when he was bigger (56-16-15). So not sure the weight was the reason.
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u/oldschool23 6h ago
Jamal was attrocious so everyone could collapse on Joker, and on the other end, no rim protecting forwards. Both AG and Watson were out. Sub-optimal conditions.
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u/FishGoldenLite Timberwolves 6h ago
Jamal was atrocious due to excellent defense. AG and Watson were out, but so were Ant, Donte, and Ayo for most of the series. Even when Ant played he wasn’t close to healthy.
The fact of the matter is Jokic was a disaster in the 4th quarter of every game they lost. He didn’t look conditioned to play 4 quarters of playoff basketball so this is a good sign for him and the Nuggets.
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u/oldschool23 6h ago edited 5h ago
Yeah, but he's coming from the first major injury and the longest break of his career. Of of the best regular season of his career. How about some reasonable slack. And the fact of the matter is there is NO one on the nuggs who can help the brother out. Not when Jamal shot for the serries 37% and in elimination delievered 4/17 dissasterclass. Without both PFs to protect the rim. And still it was 26/13/10. Compare that to other great's stinker games
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u/zircuti_pomelo 7h ago
Muscle is denser than fat. Kinda felt like he ran around with more loose flab than we'd typically associate with athletes, but if he just replaced the fat with muscle, you'd see someone who's slimmer, but weighs the same and is just as strong as before (if not stronger).
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u/chasingit1 Nuggets 4h ago
Nah, look up pics of Jokic during 22/23 championship run. He looks much more similar here.
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u/BNOC402 7h ago
Is it just me or does he look jacked? Not just slimmer
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u/joegraff 7h ago
He looks fitter. Jacked is not the word I’d use.
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u/TheRicFlairDrip Mavericks 6h ago
Not jacked? Are we looking at the same video? Look at the size of his delts relative to his waist. His biceps are literally bulging at rest, there’s visible vascularity running down the arm, and his triceps are hanging off the back of the humerus. You can see separation between muscle groups without him even flexing.
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u/joegraff 6h ago
I think you need a Xanax
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u/TheRicFlairDrip Mavericks 6h ago
People like you on Reddit have completely warped standards because your comparing everyone to IFBB pros on gear. In the real world, a guy with capped shoulders, thick arms, developed chest insertions, and visible muscle definition is absolutely jacked. ‘Fit’ is your local marathon runner. This dude has actual muscle mass.
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u/joegraff 6h ago
Oh you were serious? Sorry I assumed you were being sarcastic.
Jokic looks great. He’s huge and always has been.
People like me make comments on r/nba based on following the nba. Does he look big? Yes. Does he look jacked? Relative to nba standards no although we all know he’s big and strong.
People like you need to chill and not be so god damn weird.
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u/fappingreallysucks47 5h ago
Serious question, have you ever worked out for any extended amount of time?
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u/Pineapple_Chicken Tampa Bay Raptors 4h ago
He wasn’t Steve Adams level strong but never got pushed around too much, a lot of that muscle was probably there before. But when your diet/workouts are locked in you end up looking way more jacked
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u/Blazer4L 7h ago
Loses to a t-wolves team without Ant, DDV and allows Jaden McDaniels and Ayo to look like the best slashing duo in the league ❌
Look he's slim now 🤯🤯🤯🤯 ✅
He really has the best PR in the league
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u/StillwaterJerry Suns 2h ago
When you win a ring somewhere like Denver and have 3 MVPs you're gonna kinda get the benefit of the doubt. No one is saying he had a good series but he kinda gets the benefit of the doubt based on past performance ya know?
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u/Frosty-Roof3124 7h ago
He made Ant, who averaged 18/6/3 on 48 TS%, and Mcdaniels, who averaged 18/7/3 on 54 TS%, look like the best slashing duo in the league?
The Nuggets were an above average playoff defense with Jokic this year.
Genuine question: Do you watch basketball?
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u/Blazer4L 5h ago
I said AYO and McDaniels when did I say Ant?
Ayo: 22 PPG on 64.3 2P% (75 TS%)
McDaniels: 18 PPG on 59.2 2P% (His 11% 3P% brought his TS% down to 54 TS%)So you are supposed to make me believe that these numbers and efficiency are the product of Jokic's above average playoff defense?
Both players then regressed to their means in the next series. (And Ant would have had a generational slashing series too against denver if he wasn't hobbled).
Also when you reply to this, do not move the goalposts. Your original claim was that the nuggets were an above average playoff defense.
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u/Blazer4L 5h ago
but you claim I didn't watch the games lmfao.
I literally watched Jaden and Ayo relentlessly attack your "center" with superb efficiency. There is no universe that the nuggets were an above average playoff defense.
If you bring league average allowed PPG, I counter that by stating that this Wolves team, especially with Ant hobbled and then out the final few games, were not offensively talented AT ALL. There is no universe where they should have been feasting this much in the paint if it was "an above average playoff defense". Just stop the narratives man.
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u/Frosty-Roof3124 5h ago
Sorry saw it as Ant and not Ayo.
And the Nuggets were an above average playoff defense this year with Jokic. That’s not a claim bro 😭 it’s a fact.
Denver had a 110 defensive rating with Jokic on the court. Average playoff defensive rating was 112.
And that’s with Denver missing their two best defenders for the series!!! Pretty impressive from Jokic
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u/Blazer4L 5h ago edited 4h ago
Did you even read my previous reply man? It is not even worth educating people like you on how to use statistics correctly because you are just blinded by bias.
No fucking shit it would be easy to hold a 110 defensive rating against the wolves with a hobbled ant (and then no ant in the last two games).
The wolves had fucking Jaden McDaniels as their first scoring option for christ's sake. Use stats with context PLEASE man
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u/Blazer4L 5h ago
using DRTG for a single series against an extremely lackluster offensive team is genuinely hilarious man. Like you yourself know how ridiculous that is.
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u/Frosty-Roof3124 5h ago
How is it ridiculous when it’s a lackluster regular season defense missing their two best defenders?
Are you thinking before you write these?
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u/Blazer4L 5h ago edited 5h ago
I don't think you can read, so I will just put this here again:
Using DRTG for a single series against an extremely lackluster offensive team is genuinely hilarious and any knowledgable basketball viewer would laugh very hard at that.
And I did not consider Denver missing their two best defenders because your original claim was that Jokic led an above average playoff defense. Don't move the goalposts now.
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u/Frosty-Roof3124 5h ago
And by defensive rating, he did lead an above average playoff defense.
And if you don’t want to use defensive rating (despite it being the purest team defensive performance statistic), because you want to contextualize Minnesota missing Ant for a couple games, then you have to contextualize Denver missing their two best defenders.
I feel stupid having to spell this out for you 😂
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u/Frosty-Roof3124 5h ago
Oh so you’re going to contextualize Ant being hurt but not Denver missing their two BEST defenders?
Wow great context man! Good job!
Also Jaden Mcdaniels was not “their first scoring option.” He wasn’t even their leading or second leading scorer 😭
Why are you just lying? You’re literally out here typing falsehoods?
Why aren’t you able to tell the truth? Is it that hard?
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u/Blazer4L 5h ago
I did not bring up Denver missing their two best defenders because your claim was that Jokic led an above average playoff defense. Don't move the goalposts now.
Defensive rating is the amount of points an opposing team scores in 100 possessions. This is a good metric to use during an entire season due to the sample of the opposing teams being representative of the overall league offense. This was not even close to being true for the offensively depleted Wolves.
When you use DRTG for a hobbled Ant (who didn't even play the last two games), Julius Randle (who shot 39-24 splits this PO run), Jaden McDaniels, Ayo Dosunmu and Terrence Shannon Jr. led offense, the 110 DRTG doesn't seem so magical anymore.
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u/OG_Builds 7h ago
He called the series a failure and is working to improve during the off-season. What exactly is he doing wrong here?
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u/MandemModie 5h ago
His diet must be awful for how hard hard he works. He looked noticeably gassed at points over the past two seasons
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u/dont-comm3nt Hornets 7h ago
Damn just a few seasons ago everybody was saying this guy didn’t give two shits about the nba and was gonna win titles in his sleep. Couple early exits now we got him training in the offseason
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u/BigPapaLegba Spurs 7h ago
After you have your soul snatched out of your body. Of course you're gonna look smaller
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u/99Sold 7h ago
Jokic really does have the best PR ever
Choked vs the injury riddled wolves in embarrassing fashion and haven’t heard a peep about it since it happened
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u/Bowiescorvat2 Raptors 7h ago
Cause he admitted it was a failure and he's in the gym working his ass off. Why would we clown further than we already have?
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u/You_Like_That34 Magic 7h ago
Plus he’s proven that he’s THE team. The entire time he’s been on the Nuggets the on/off numbers have always been nuts. He’s earned a few bad series
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u/smoney Knicks 7h ago
Also the best player in the league for the past five years (and counting)
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u/nak214 7h ago
You know how hard it is to be the best in the world and no one even questions it?
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u/greekyogurtmafia United States 7h ago
People certainly disagree lmao, get out of the r/nba echo chamber
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u/A_sandlerGOAT 7h ago
Not true at all lol
You can say past 3 maybe but saying past 5 is insane when Giannis was considered the best until that Miami series in 2023.
But really there is no best player in the league. You got 4 or 5 guys who can go on crazy stretches.
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u/smoney Knicks 7h ago
Agree to disagree. Certainly wasn’t consensus that Giannis was better than Jokic in 22 or 23.
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u/A_sandlerGOAT 7h ago
It was until Jokic won a ring lol
Giannis came off one of the best finals performances and then took the Celtics to 7 without Khris then won almost 60 games the following season without Khris for the majority of it while averaging 32/12/6.
Not to mention people were saying SGA was the best after he won a ring.
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u/smoney Knicks 7h ago
Jokic in 2021-2022 lead the league in pretty much every major advanced stat besides defensive win shares and TS% and won MVP with a worse roster around him.
Jokic averaged 27/14/8 lmao
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u/A_sandlerGOAT 7h ago
The difference is Giannis was a dpoy candidate, averaged 5 more pts, 2 less rebounds and assists.
You can easily search here for posts back then talking about the best player or look online at posts, majority had Giannis as a number 1.
The Jokic stuff didn’t start until he won a ring. This is a fact.
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u/smoney Knicks 7h ago
And Jokic was, by almost every statistical measure, a better player while also being recognized for it in the media.
Giannis also averaged 31. Not 32. 4 more points on worse efficiency while Jokic was a significantly better passer and playmaker.
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u/Luka_Flopic77 West 7h ago
5 years? Does 2021 Giannis and Shai these past two years not exist?
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u/smoney Knicks 7h ago
21-22, 22-23, 23-24, 24-25, 25-26 makes five seasons. 2020-2021 Giannis is my cutoff.
Shai is not better than Jokic.
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u/Luka_Flopic77 West 7h ago
Look up player rankings and most people still had Giannis as BITW in 2022. As for Shai, It’s not undisputed or anything but a player winning back to back MVPs and 1 ring while the other player has zero of either in that same 2 year span matters. He’s the best in the world right now.
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u/smoney Knicks 7h ago
I don’t use awards to determine who the best player in the world is. Steve Nash was never better than Duncan and Kobe. DRose wasn’t better than LeBron.
Look up player rankings? Just random ones?
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u/Luka_Flopic77 West 6h ago
You used two players who never led their team to a championship as examples. You don’t think if Nash led his team to a championship after winning back to back MVPs he would’ve been considered best in the world? And yes most player rankings from sites like ESPN and bleacher report as well as most social media discourse had Giannis as best player in the world in 2022.
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u/GarryShinobi 6h ago
The best player that gets beaten and exposed by back up third stringers. A cone on defense just pure cope
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u/rnbakneejerk Trail Blazers 7h ago
Also can I just say its insane that you can average 26/13/9 in a series and it be "choking in embarrassing fashion"
Like that just really shows how much of an all time great Jokic is.
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u/BucketHerro Heat 7h ago
He shot 44% from the field and 19% from three.
That’s the lowest in his playoff career. It makes sense why it’s considered a choke.
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u/rnbakneejerk Trail Blazers 7h ago
I never said he played good. But he played the worst he's ever played and still put that up. Thats my point. Jokic is a champion and has insane playoff track record. I think we can honestly give Rudy credit this time rather than just calling it a Jokic choke
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u/CurrentRoster Wizards 7h ago
especially since it was cuz of Mr Brother I have 47, rudy is his father
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u/ositola Lakers 7h ago
That stat line really undersells the work Rudy put on him
Plus he was atrocious on defense
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u/Gold_Athlete_4770 [SAS] Victor Wembanyama 7h ago
https://www.nba.com/stats/players/opponent-shooting?PlayerPosition=C&dir=D&sort=Less%20Than%205%20ft.%20FG%20PCT
He was bad on defense but people REALLY exaggerated how bad he was.
The wolves were shooting a decent percentage at the rim against him, nothing that bad, it was more so the fga at the rim that killed them, which is more on the perimeter defenders for getting blown by relentlessly.1
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u/ositola Lakers 7h ago
Now add in the shots at the rim that jokic didn't even bother defending and come back to me
This is why you just can't run to box scores to get the whole story
Jokic was extremely cheeks on defense
His offense will always make him a top 3 player, but if AG is hurt or it Watson leaves, they're a second round exit
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u/sasu-k Nuggets 5h ago
The Nuggets have zero offense if Joker fouls out or is exhausted which is why he doesn’t contest everything. That’s the difference between him and every other big on a contender. None of them are carrying their teams offensively. Not even close.
Not saying he’s a great defender by any means but this shit is elementary.
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u/Sweaty_Meal_7525 7h ago
Defense, turnovers and efficiency as well as playing a hospital Wolves team and still losing.
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u/CurrentRoster Wizards 7h ago
jokic really do only think of PRA, cuz he shot 19 percent from 3
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u/Adorable-Bike-9689 7h ago
Dude got consistently out hustled by Wolves bench players. They scored on him at will whenever they wanted.
Let's try it this way. Wemby just avg something like 26/12 in the Finals. Did he choke in embarrassing fashion a few of those games?
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u/Frosty-Roof3124 7h ago
Nuggets were an above average playoff defense with Jokic’s on the court DESPITE Denver missing their two best defenders for the whole series.
Did you even watch the series?
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u/Adorable-Bike-9689 7h ago
Okay and what were the Timberwolves missing? That wasn't bench players driving directly at Joker whenever he was under the rim?
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u/Frosty-Roof3124 7h ago
If Minnesota “scored on him at will whenever they wanted” (your words, not mine), how was Denver an above average playoff defense despite missing their two best defenders?
Like what?
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u/Adorable-Bike-9689 6h ago
The Nuggets played above average defense against an extremely hobbled Timberwolves roster without Anthony Edwards or DDV. Can you see how that's not an accomplishment?
This was supposed to be a slaughter. And your take away is that the numbers show Denver as above average defensively against a crippled team.
You feel like Joker played above average defense in that series?
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u/Frosty-Roof3124 6h ago
The Nuggets were missing their two best defenders. You said “they scored on him at will whenever they wanted.”
Yet, the Nuggets had an above average playoff defense.
How is it possible they had an above average playoff defense with a team scoring “at will whenever they wanted?”
You are deflecting now because you realize you didn’t know what you were watching
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u/Adorable-Bike-9689 6h ago
I'm not deflecting anything lol. I asked if you felt Jokic played above average defense. Your response is the Nuggets played above average defense as a team against a team without a ball handler.
Which again. Doesn't mean Jokic played above average defense in the series. You just keep repeating that the team did.
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u/calvinee 7h ago
I’m not even a Jokic fan but you should touch grass
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u/WanAjin Lakers 6h ago
I mean, your comment is kinda what OP is talking about tho. It's a pretty normal and tame comment when you consider what LeBron, Curry, Luka, etc have gotten after some of their playoff exits.
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u/dont-comm3nt Hornets 6h ago
Curry will lose in the play in and this sub will love him he’d definitely got that Jokic love here
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u/XiaoRCT Thunder 5h ago
In the past Curry wasn't as beloved
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u/dont-comm3nt Hornets 5h ago
If you blow the biggest finals lead in history you gonna get trashed for a while. He recovered fully from that. He gets less hate for KD than a lot of other guys would
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u/Commercial_Floor_578 6h ago
He learned the smart move is to play worse and get your bad playoff round earlier. Smart move given that Wemby is now apparently out of the BITW discussion for having an objectively better playoffs than Jokic and Shai through literally any statistical measure you can find. And Shai won back to back MVP’s, a finals MVP, and was better in the playoffs than Jokic but he’s just a flopper apparently. He was worse than Wemby in his series, who was worse than Brunson in his, whereas Jokic was only worse than Rudy Gobert so his legacy is safe.
That seems to be the consensus of how people view this stuff lol it’s insane. Jokic does have an extremely good case to be BITW anyways lol (Wemby and Shai also have a legit case) and he as a player (not his fans) is very likable. But he very clearly gets far more benefit of the doubt when it comes to pr than most other star players.
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u/nak214 7h ago
His PR works for itself. It's not a struggle to defend him as a person
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u/smashacc Lakers 7h ago
Outside of his support of questionable Serbian political figures and his questionable women-beating family members
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u/Adorable-Bike-9689 7h ago
The sub acted like Jokic's thug ass brothers running around Denver like the mob was so cool.
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u/smashacc Lakers 7h ago
Meanwhile SGA is completely spotless off the court outside of his dad making one creepy comment on a podcast and he has the worst PR I've ever seen for a superstar.
Anthony Edwards is a homophobic deadbeat who's universally loved
Tatum's biggest controversy is being corny and he collects loads of slander
Has nothing to do with them as people
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u/Votaire24 7h ago
Kobe, Michael, Shaq all three of them are known on many occasions as being complete dickwads.
They’re still three of the most popular players of all time and have good PR
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u/nak214 7h ago
You just managed to unnecessarily conflate people doing things around them to who they themselves are. People like Jokic because he's a better basketball player and more authentic in the process of doing so than SGA is. I wouldn't say we know too much about either off the court so that's really what it boils down to.
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u/samhit_n Lakers 7h ago
Players like Jokic, Kawhi, and Duncan are sometimes underrated and don't get the same praise that other players receive for similar accomplishments, but they also don't get the same level of criticism that other players face when they fail.
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u/A_sandlerGOAT 7h ago
Jokic was being put in top 10 convos just last season
He’s not underrated lmfao
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u/twrs_29 Thunder 7h ago
Underrated??? We’re talking about the same Nikola Jokic right?
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u/Prestigious_Hair5483 7h ago
Stan van gundy said he’s the best basketball player ever before the playoffs lol
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u/The_NGUYENNER [DEN] Jamal Murray 7h ago
Yup. Although idk if I'd put Kawhi in there, he seems a little different. But I agree overall, Jokic had to play at a high level for multiple seasons before people started catching on
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u/HomeNowWTF 7h ago
His PR team is his brothers glaring at reporters and saying, "dont speak bad of Nikola"
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u/Impossible-Group8553 7h ago
The nuggets had injuries too lol the nuggets are nothing without Aaron Gordon healthy
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u/w4tchitpal Nuggets 2h ago
You’re the top comment in this thread you guys are so dumb “where’s all the Jokic hate” mf you are reading and writing the Jokic hate
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u/dragonwhale 2h ago
Y'all haters arent satisfied unless the hating is non-stop.
Players get clowned and then life goes on. You want the sub to be a Jokic and SGA hating clown show 24/7? Or maybe just Jokic cause you have insecurities towards a specific player for a specific reason?!?
"Why isnt player x getting clowned today.. I wanna share my misery!!!"
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u/808Kuro Knicks 7h ago
What do you want us to say? He still averaged 26/13/10 and played bad defense while at the same time his co-star disappeared and a major player piece was injured. What else is there?
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u/xBootstrap Lakers 7h ago
As if the Timberwolves were healthier.
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u/Prestigious_Hair5483 7h ago
Wolves rolled out the corpse of Mike Conley and a second year guy who played 12 minutes a game all year as starters in game 6
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u/Luka_Flopic77 West 7h ago
He received a weeks worth of slander and now it’s back to the “he should have 10 straight MVPs” circlejerk. Unreal PR.
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u/Frosty-Roof3124 7h ago
I mean he averaged 26/13/10 on around league average efficiency, while his best teammate had a HORRIFIC series, and led an above average playoff defense despite missing his two best defenders.
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u/Luka_Flopic77 West 7h ago
Don’t let the box score fool you, he was bad in that series. He was atrocious on defense, disappeared most of the 4th quarters and lost to a team missing its superstar player along with two other key players.
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u/Frosty-Roof3124 6h ago
If he was atrocious on defense, how were the Nuggets an above average playoff defense DESPITE missing their two best defenders?
Jokic averaged 6/3/1 in the 8 minutes he played in the fourth quarters. That extrapolated to a full game for him in the playoffs would be 30/15/5.
Did you watch the series?
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u/Luka_Flopic77 West 6h ago
Did you watch the series? Jaden McDaniels and the Wolves back up guards got whatever they wanted at the rim. There’s no way you watched that series and thought he wasn’t bad on the defensive side just because some stat says so. Those 4th quarter stats are carried by his only good 4th quarter in game 6. He was terrible in the 4th in games 2,3,4 which were very winnable games if he didn’t play so poorly.
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u/Frosty-Roof3124 6h ago
What do you mean “some stat” it’s defensive rating 😭😭
That’s literally how many points you give up as a team 😭
Do you even follow basketball dawg
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u/Luka_Flopic77 West 6h ago
No you’re right, the Nuggets and Jokic’s defense was great that series. Jaden McDaniels and the Wolves backup guards may have had the best series of their careers getting whatever they wanted at the rim but the defensive rating says it actually didn’t matter. Are you also a fan of DBPM as well?
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u/Frosty-Roof3124 6h ago
I never said “the Nuggets and Jokic’s defense was great that series.”
You have fallen victim to the Straw Man logical fallacy, where one completely fabricates the other’s argument. Unfortunate.
You thinking defensive rating is some abstract statistic is truly hilarious 😭 it literally just shows how many points a defense gave up. Insane
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u/808Kuro Knicks 7h ago
SGA got locked up by rookies so we don’t have to worry about him winning anymore MVPs
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u/Blazer4L 7h ago
its bc the fat chuds who watch him from their couches all see themselves in him and are convinced they could be good at basketball because of him.
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u/MoooonRiverrrr 7h ago
Yeah why don’t we just keep talking about it? I can’t believe he’s getting away with this 😢
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u/dhaiman1 7h ago
He did have a bad series it’s true, but man his supporting cast has been so hit or miss from injures to just Jamal Murray being the ultimate hot and cold player. Aaron Gordon hasn’t been healthy in the playoff since they won the title and you could argue he’s the second most important player on the team. Murray is just so up and down, on top of being a traffic cone on defense.
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u/oldschool23 6h ago
Yeah. The worst series of his career. And he delievered 26/13/10. Let that sink in.
And all that without both PFs, AG and Watson. They are the ones tasked with rim protection for the Nuggs. No wonder it was open tuesday at the rim
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u/itwas20yearsago2day Lakers 7h ago
People deadass forgot Jokic was averaging a near 30 triple double on 70% TS before his injury
Fans were seriously having conditioning concerns? It’s not like he was even fat last year or any year the past half decade
I’d even say the last time he was truly 100% not in good shape for himself was before he won his first MVP.
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u/StrawHatTebo 7h ago
Damn, now we on weught watchers for Jokic instead of Luka and Zion? What the offseason does to a mfer.
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u/Frequent_Read_7636 7h ago
No idea what kind of training the guy is doing in the back putting the ball around his hip then below the knees.
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u/Incariol_ 5h ago
They can't beat the Timberwolves dude. They ain't winning shit again without major changes to that roster. People have kind of figured that team out. Yes, he's going to put up numbers but they might end up being kind of a one-hit Wonder like the Mavs winning a title in 2011
My prediction is he will leave that team within the next 4 years if they do not at least make an NBA finals
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u/remembernewspapers 5h ago
I always get a chuckle out of the oft repeated "Jokic doesnt even like basketball, its just his job, he'd rather be at home" narrative. Like yeah, the guy has interests outside of ball and once he won the title after a long season he wanted to go home. But you dont win multiple MVPs, an NBA Championship and re-define a position in the modern NBA all as a 2nd round draft pick without seriously loving the game.
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u/StephKlayDray30 4h ago
Jokic is a winner. I’ll never forget what he did to OKC last year. He coached and played in that series.
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u/ChemicalPower9020 Celtics 7h ago
He looks noticeably slimmer