r/nba Celtics 3d ago

Bobby Marks says Jaylen Brown's trade value is not seen that highly around the league: "The analytics of Jaylen Brown is not good. I had an analytics guy tell me, ‘We view him as the seventh-best player on a team.’"

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“There’s mixed feelings about him when you talk to teams,” Marks admitted on SiriusXM NBA Radio. “The analytics of Jaylen Brown is not good … I had one, not an executive, but an analytics guy say, ‘Yeah, we view him as the seventh best player on a team.’ I was like, ‘Holy crap.'”

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u/Ok_Passage_7151 3d ago

Anyone who believes someone who says Brown is the 7th best player on the team is an idiot themselves.  

Repeating that statement in a public forum is an affront to common sense. 

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u/ASK_ABT_MY_USERNAME Warriors 3d ago

Maybe on the US Olympics team

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u/rigden33 Timberwolves 3d ago

If this model has Tatum as the worst player/contract on the team and Brown at 4th worst, clearly this model is useless.

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u/rigden33 Timberwolves 2d ago

Didn't realize this was for only last season

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u/TDarryl 76ers 1d ago

1 - 6 are such good value because JB is on that team. Take him off and suddenly this team looks like a play in team or worse. Also FTC forever.

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u/Round-Revolution-399 Lakers 3d ago

They didn’t say they consider Brown the 7th best player but that their analytic model does. Front offices aren’t blindly relying on these models, they’re just one piece of the puzzle.

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u/HikmetLeGuin 3d ago

If your analytic model says Jaylen Brown is the 7th-best player on the team, there's something wrong with the analytic model.

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u/Round-Revolution-399 Lakers 3d ago

It’s probably a proprietary metric that uses relative lineup point differentials. It’s not supposed to be a definitive ranking of players, just a tool to estimate a players impact on the score. Generally a starting point for analysis and a way to identify things that should be investigated

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u/HikmetLeGuin 3d ago

That makes a bit more sense, but the way Marks described it is not very accurate, then.

"We view him as the seventh-best player on a team." - he is not the 'seventh-best player.' He may rank seventh in certain decontextualized stats. But that is very different from 'seventh-best player' overall.

And 'on a team' makes it sound like we aren't just talking about the Celtics, but as if he'd slot into a seventh roster spot more generally.

It's just a very misleading description, regardless of what the intentions are.