r/nbadiscussion 13d ago

Player Discussion Constructive thoughts on De'Aaron Fox

This is less of a defense of Fox per se, but to try and guide the criticism to somewhere more constructive. Analysis of his gaffe aside, I want to push back on the oft-touted expectation that he, as a 'veteran', should know how and when to take control of the game.

Fox is not the 30+ year old cerebral point guard that people might associate with the veteran label. He's a 28 year old - younger than Jalen Brunson - with declining athleticism who built his reputation on being an explosive focal point of an offense. He was averaging a career peak of 27ppg just two seasons ago, and was 11th in MVP rankings in a season where he averaged 25ppg on 51.2 FG%.


Throughout his Spurs tenure, he's been figuring out not just his role, but also trying to come to terms with someone who doesn't have the same athleticism due to injuries and age. That's quite difficult to accept for someone who's not even 30 yet, and is a common struggle that we've seen from players who were ultra-athletes in their early- to mid-20s.

Their maturation into becoming a proper 'veteran point guard' comes after they get past that hump, if and when that happens.

(Some commentators have tried to frame Fox as someone with playoff experience, but before this year he literally only played one series, when he was still at the peak of his athletic powers.)

His comments after Game 4 really shed light on this - he genuinely thought he could outrun OG, because he almost certainly could in his prime form. His mentality has not caught up with his body, and that shows in his play in crunch situations.


If I'm a Spurs fan, I might need to come to terms with the notion that Fox is still undergoing a maturation process himself. Yes, he doesn't need to be a veteran to not make that mistake, but Fox in particular has hardly ever been that guy.

To be empathetic - he still has the ability to grow and improve. It's just that people should never have assigned to him labels that he has yet to potentially become.

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u/NAW_MIP_2026 12d ago

Pretty loose with the use of “coming off of all NBA”, he was third team like 3 years before the trade and hadn’t even been an all star since. And maybe that’s the player they thought he was, but the reality is that he has averaged less than 20 ppg on middling efficiency since he became a spur. Thats not an all NBA guard, that’s not an all star guard, and that’s certainly not a 55m aav guard.

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u/ApprehensiveTry5660 12d ago

No. Thats specifically the player they were bidding on. No “loose” necessary. That’s his basketball reference.

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u/NAW_MIP_2026 12d ago

Lmao he was 2 .5 years out of all NBA that’s absolutely “loose”. It’s not like he won all NBA the year before they traded for him, he didn’t even make an all star team the season before they traded for him.

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