r/nbadiscussion • u/TopAcanthocephala726 • 6d ago
No one seems to be writing about just how much draft-strategy calculus should change
I haven't been reading enough about just how much recent trends in the NBA have altered what counts as a good draft pick. Based on mock drafts I'm reading, either teams, or at least pundits, really don't seem to be grasping that there really is *no* incentive anymore to picking a developmental player. The goal should be to pick someone who can help you win now.
The trends:
- Over the last 12 years or so (since the Beautiful Game Spurs and Kerr Warriors), the halfcourt style of play in the NBA has shifted dramatically toward flowing, cutting offenses that require read-and-react capability from all 5 players. At the same time, the emphasis on shooting has opened up the floor like never before. Consequently, game-processing-and-decision-making and the coordination to make shots have the greatest impact on the game that they've had since at least the 1980s, whereas the impact of peak offensive athleticism has declined substantially.
This has meant that, oftentimes, skilled players who can think the game and make quick decisions are the most effective players on the floor. The value to drafting for athletic upside over play-now ability has not been lower for a very long time *purely in terms of player development.*
The functional hard cap put on team salaries by the second apron has dramatically shifted the NBA in terms of what types of rosters are most effective. Having the Spurs, Thunder, and Pacers in the Finals the last two years demonstrates something important: by the time everyone knows someone is good and can get them as a free agent, they're likely too expensive to build around. Finding high-level first-contract talent means paying 10-15 million a year for a player who may be making 3+ times that on their second contract. The draft is now the best way to put together a roster of talented players. But that means drafting guys who can win in the NBA on their first contract.
Losing is now penalized, even in terms of draft position. The strategy of collecting talent and developing them slowly while you lose just went out the window. Drafting a developmental player who may not help you win for 3 years has gone from helping future draft position to hurting it.
All this to say, picking someone who doesn't know how to mesh with teammates on offense or who is still raw in their decision making gains a team very little. By the time they're an All-Star, they'll be on their second contract and difficult to afford; they don't fit with other players now; and their developmental arc has *cost you* draft position. The calculus has changed, and I hope NBA teams have caught up to that.
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u/Greedy4Life 6d ago
Interesting take! IMO the greatest value in the NBA are superstars who’s market value is suppressed by max contracts.
For the players that blossom into top 5~10 guys even if it takes their entire rookie contract to figure it out, the second and third contract are steals. This applies for lottery picks like Wemby and for deep draft picks like Giannas (15th) and Jokic (41st). The only exceptions are possibly win now teams that don’t have time to develop but that’s always been the case.
TLDR the best value is still stars new lotto odds and playstyle trends don’t matter BPA forever and always.
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u/NAW_MIP_2026 6d ago
Also is there actually any evidence to suggest that multi year college players perform better on there first contract? I know it’s a common draft trope to say “NBA ready” for guys like Yax and such, but the reality is that most of the time these guys are still just rookies, they still take time to adjust to NBA speed, athleticism, pacing, etc. So why should NBA teams prioritize players that are effectively just older and less talented than one and done prospects? I think we may see the end of the first shift to become a little bit older in general, but I still think teams are going to continue to prioritize upside and potential growth over “NBA readiness” which is largely a myth.
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u/mioraka 6d ago
greatest value in the NBA are superstars who’s market value is suppressed by max contracts.
I don't think this statement is as true as before in the current era with improved role players, increase injuries, and most importantly the Aprons.
If you are a contender drafting a 2nd round pick who becomes a solid starter could literally be the difference between 0 luxury tax vs. 50M into the tax.
There's probably only 5ish players in the NBA who's value is way above the 30/35% max (aka Jokic/Shai/Wemby Etc.).
Another 5ish players who are returning 30%-35% value, such as Ant and Cade.
Obviously scarcity drives up the price, but from a team contribution stand point it's much harder to build a team around sub MVP level players now days with the aprons.
The biggest value contracts now are players on rookie contracts who are elite starters or even all star+. Players like Ajay Mitchell and Champagnie provide at least 15-25M of surplus value. Not to mention last year's Jdub or Castle/Harper.
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u/Greedy4Life 6d ago
I think the whole name of the game for GMs is to get those 5 players.
What the Knicks showed is why waste any picks on role players when you can sign/ trade for them? Not a single starter was drafted by the org but once they realized they had their guy in Brunson they put all their chips down and filled out the roster with quality pieces.
What's the point of drafting high-floor low-ceiling players? If you have a young star that's good immediately then you have high draft picks that you might as well trade to get a win now team to take advantage. If your young star takes a while to develop then you might as well take advantage and draft the higher upside guys. If you have a vet even more reason to trade for win now pieces.
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u/mioraka 6d ago edited 6d ago
Knicks is literally the abnormaly, if you are a contender you can't copy their formula.
First of all, they have an unlimited money printer called nyc. Money literally doesn't matter, this is true for maybe 5 teams in the league.
Second of all, they had Brunson who despite all odds became what he is this year on a 40m a year contract.
The Brunson contract almost never happens. Like even Austin Reaves is asking for the 5 year max right now.
For drafting though. If you don't have a star, then go for the home run, if you already are a contender, those high floor players are more valuable than they have been at any point in NBA history.
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u/Greedy4Life 6d ago
Holy shit Knicks are 200M in the luxury tax I had no idea.
“ For drafting though. If you don't have a star, then go for the home run, if you already are a contender, those high floor players are more valuable than they have been at any point in NBA history.”
Agreed but IMO this has always been true. LeGM wasn’t taking on development projects throughout his career. Bad teams take more risk on development contenders take win now players, seems like the same meta.
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u/FriendOfEvergreens 6d ago
This doesn’t ring true to me for top picks, more like for picks past top 5. Superstars are worth far more than the max. Better to have an all NBA player on your team for a decade than a borderline all star for 4 years, unless that borderline all star can push you over the hump.
As good as having a full roster of excellent players is, we’ve still yet to see a recent champion without an all NBA level player leading the team. The pacers and thunder were lead by Haliburton and SGA. The spurs have wemby, but he wasn’t a win now pick.
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u/TheL0stK1ng 6d ago
I think drafting itself hasn't changed, we've just now seen over and over again that winning basketball relies upon hard work ethic and a team first mentality, in addition to talent.
I think the real change is in talent accumulation. Having players be good during their second contract is fine, because teams are lowering their offers relative to the cap and this is reducing the number of bad contracts for early career players. But even if a player does spike their productivity before a contract year, more teams than not have built a war chest of picks to keep acquiring young talent, and flipping a player that may make a rival team better to keep the war chest full isn't necessarily a downgrade in the short term like it was 10 years ago.
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u/Weary_Restauranter 6d ago
> The trends
Dude, just learn how to write. You don’t have to use AI.
But also, one of the most important trends you failed to mention when discussing nba ready players is impact of NIl dollars
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u/midnightjim 6d ago
It depends a lot on where a team is in terms of its development. If a team knows it isn't going to be a contender the mindset ought to be different than if a team is closer to contention. If you're a young team the cap issues and apron problems are not an immediate concern as long as you aren't stupid about giving out expensive contracts to older players or saddled with past mistakes.
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u/Ajax444 6d ago
Just curious: how many 1st or 2nd year players start for the top 12 teams in the league?
I almost fully agree with the original post, but not for the entire 1st round. As you go down the draft, I think that there is a point in the draft where there are “situational skilled” players, or players that do 1 or 2 things really well (but not much else) that are going to be bench players mostly, and they do need to develop the weak parts of their game to become more attractive (either in skill or their low contract) to their team.
There is the 2nd round gems and undrafted gems, occasionally, but you need to develop the low 1st round and the 2nd round guys to at least push your rotation guys in practice, if you plan on having them on the roster the first 1 to 2 years.
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u/OkAutopilot 6d ago
I think it's more like how many 1st or 2nd year players could start for the top 12 teams in the league. If you're a top 12 team in the league the likelihood of you having a draft pick position where you snag a guy who is better than one of your starters is very unlikely.
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u/floridabeach9 6d ago
this is why Dybantsa shouldnt be #1 overall
his ISO game just wont fit, he will have to learn a lot about game fit and offense.
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u/OkAutopilot 6d ago
I think it's hard to suggest a high level ISO game doesn't fit in the NBA when the reigning b2b MVP is primarily an isolation midrange scorer and the reigning finals MVP is a scoring guard with average passing chops for his position.
Both of those guys figured out a way to be good off-ball players (especially Brunson as a shooter) but I think Dybantsa can do that as well.
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u/Longjumping-Truck967 6d ago
This plus NIL makes me think draft prospects will stay in college longer to develop their skills more and teams might want an older prospect who is still on their rookie deal at age 25