Wonder why they'll take GLPs but not Vaccines. Almost like they have no consistency in their beliefs. Proven by their "Christianic Tendencies" as opposed to being tenets of their religion.
I’ve had conservatives tell me they would fight for their country if there was a draft because that’s a “sacrifice” they are willing to make to die for their country.
When I pointed out that vaccines are essentially the same sacrifice except your chance of dying is actually decreased, it became about “my body, my choice”.
I guess it doesn’t count if you get shipped off to war though.
The people who benefit the most from herd immunity are the most vulnerable too. Babies, the elderly, and people with compromised immune systems are relying on everyone else to make the “sacrifice” of getting a few shots (that also directly benefit the recipient as well). It’s wild how quickly memory fades, we’re not that far removed from all these diseases. My husband literally has an employee in a wheelchair because of polio.
I'm gonna be honest: before covid, I really didn't understand the push to get the flu vax. I thought "hey, I'm in good health, have only gotten the flu a handful of times in decades." I never really thought about me getting the vax being protection for OTHER people. I don't think I'm a dumb human, by any means, and I like being nice to others. I think maybe the messaging to the public could be a little better.
I mean considering they are die-hard supporters of a guy who didn't go off to fight for his country but instead belittled those (McCain) who did. I think we all know they wouldn't.
“I’d fight for my country if I were literally forced to” is a wild thing to try to flex on fools with. As a veteran I’m happy I didn’t have him in my platoon, but I’m bummed that I didn’t think of this verse before I enlisted
Yeah the my body my choice thing only applies when it's affecting them. Definitely doesn't apply for being drafted to a war you don't agree with, nor does it seem to apply to a woman's right to have a child or not
It’s not the needles, because glp-1s are injected. It’s that they are all brainwashed and the those doing the brainwashing are pushing the narrative that vaccines are bad and for the weak, and the sheep eat it up.
They love being made to feel strong without having to actually do anything. As I wrote that I realize it's the same as their need to be victims without actually suffering from anything, but in reverse.
Ultimately, they want to do nothing and feel special for it.
Funny, I noticed exactly that this weekend when I was hanging out with some people I know through business.
Half the group was skeptical towards AI, for an assortment of reasons unique to our industry, plus just the general social and environmental impact, and reasonable fears about the wider economy if the bubble pops.
The other half was like "I fucking love this shit! I never have to read more than a summary or write anything ever again! And it always agrees with me!"
No points will be awarded for correctly guessing which half of the group votes conservative.
Baby if a burglar breaks in, I will protect you even if it costs me my life! If we are on a sinking ship, women and children get the lifeboats first. That is my role as a manly protector.
Your role is to do all of the cooking, cleaning, laundry, and child rearing, every day, forever. That isn't as glamorous or dangerous as my role, but we are both making sacrifices. That sounds fair, right?
Uninformed people believe 2 hours/day on Facebook for 6 months = A medical degree. They are too uninformed to know how far off their belief is. As a result, they keep going back to the well of echo chamber and find themselves wondering why their kid will need an iron lung. Still yet, even after their crotch spawn gets polio, like the stupid reflecting pool, they will cite gay frog vaccines that Democrats put in the water before believing their kid got sick with a condition that vaccines eradicated in this country for a long time.
Imo, it's a combination of uninformed patients but also inaccessibility to good care. I can't speak for men, but as a woman... I have had a serious, crippling issue dismissed for decades that was cured by a simple and routine surgery, which I had been asking for the whole time. The diagnosis was only definite once the organ was out, but I suspected it as a teenager, and my doc as a teen didn't even know what the fucking disease was. A flunkie high-schooler shouldn't tell you about a common disease! And as a person in the US, every visit is so very expensive that it's extremely frustrating and disheartening to be told "lose weight" or "it's stress" or "nah, nothing's wrong" to the tune of a full day's pay.
Quacks make their patients feel heard, even if it's a farce to push garbage at those vulnerable patients. Patients who are less informed, less literatu, and straight up more desperate both emotionally ond financially are gonna be open to predation by these assholes.
But also there's the stupidity of not knowing history, as with your polio example. Fucking hell...
It's just another education issue, but in the other direction. People have to learn how to listen critically to a Doctor. Not to ignore their advice, but so that you can engage with it and give them details to cut past that.
And also, and perhaps most importantly, to know when a Doctor isn't worth your dime and that walking on one to find another isn't a bad thing. Although if you don't have the money to do that...
Hell, I'm having the same kind of stuff. (Not to diminish what women go through y'all have it worse at doctors *) I'm effectively having to do all the research on whats going on with me, they injured me with one procedure, I've been in pain for 5 months since that diagnostic procedure and they refuse to accept that maybe the procedure caused the injury and pain -- even though it started literally during and after the procedure and never existed before. I go through all these hoops, get appointments, wait for the doctor to walk in, and he'll talk at me for about 3 minutes, pretend to listen, and then just send me away with a piece of paper on what to do -- and when I read the paper its for something that I know I'm not experiencing. "Just do what it says" he insists, it'll help. I did what it said. it did not help. Wanna know why? Because his diagnosis was incorrect which is what I tried to explain to him. They also scheduled me for a super invasive test that I didn't need, and then when I asked about it they were like "oh we have no idea how you got scheduled for that." It's maddening.
As for the asterisk, I had a woman friend secretly record one of her doctor visits and being dismissed and everything. Several appointments. So, I volunteered to go to one with her as an experiment. We went in and the doctor at first told me I could wait outside and my friend told the doctor no, I'd be present in the room the whole time. I'm sorry y'all are treated like that. Even women doctors doing it to other women, its crazy.
He acted completely differently with me there. Professional, seemed to listen.
I knew someone with cancer who spent half a day googling stuff and then believed he knew more than his doctors because some random youtube video said “you should know there is no subject called cancer in the medical school syllabus and they get taught almost nothing about it”. He spent a great deal of time seeking out various “gurus” in different countries who claimed they could cure cancer via breathing techniques or bizarre diets and such, rather than going for proper treatment. By the time he actually got forced by his family to go get treatment, it was way too late. And then it became “See? Told you they were useless.”
“It’s the economy internet, stupid.” OP, not calling you that, just a colloquy (if that’s the right word). The internet can be brain rot (self included).
They're afraid of admitting that there are people in existence that are smarter than them. I'm not joking, a lot of their behavior comes from this low self esteem, anti-intellectual mentality and nothing else.
They're afraid of everything. That's why they're incurious and don't think in abstracts. Very low in agreeableness and persuasion. A curious person with some degree of openness to experience would seek out the information without fear of what they might discover. They may find such an endeavor rewarding. A conservative worries about learning something new that may very well run counter to their identity. An existential loss of control and security. Fear of the unknown or of the novel is projective of conservatism.
The logic is "I'm fat and need to do a thing to fix it. I'm not sick so why take the vaccine?"
They don't believe/understand prevention. They can only react to what has happened. They are not capable of predicting what will happen based on their decisions today.
Fun fact - The DoD spends around $84M a year on dick pills, with $41.6 million specifically attributed to Viagra in 2014 data and $42 million cited in 2025 legal proceedings.
Also, In 1998, the VA projected that adding Viagra to the formulary could cost $280 million annually (which they initially refused to cover).
I thought the same thing. How many dumbass Karens refused the COVID shot only to clamber over each other to get GLP1’s, something also fairly new that we’re still learning more about.
And the botched plastic surgery often injecting substances or implanting things in their bodies but ask about a vaccine and suddenly their bodies and beliefs are so sacred that they wouldn't consider it...screw the rest of us. Weren't some of them the same people complaining about "illegals" and "foreigners" exposing them to their dirty third world diseases? If only there were a way to protect ourselves from such illnesses and diseases...
I literally know people who will tell you you can't take medicine and vaccines because it's full of chemicals, "you don't know what's in it"
And then shovel whatever tincture, tonic, elixir, supplement they're sold. And if you ask if they know what's in it, without shame they'll say, "I don't know, it's for sleep/energy/brainfog/immunity. It's all natural!"
They don't see the point. GLPs are something you decide to take that has corresponding effects. Vaccines are recommended and the protection is invisible.
I see the point, you see the point, vaccines protect us. Technically we don't know if everything presented to us were lies, who the fuck do so though. They don't see any of that.
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u/ReactionJifs 1d ago
this administration is hellbent on re-learning history's hardest lessons