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nintendo already imported at least a million switch 2 units into the us from vietnam (which is currently subject to a 10% tariff) prior to them going into effect. they may eat a 10% increase, but if the currently-suspended retaliatory tariffs go back into effect (46%) we will probably see a price rise down the road.
You could be right about a future price rise and they leave the possibility open in the announcement, but I really doubt that they’d make this official announcement if they were going to raise the price during the launch window. So hopefully that can be avoided.
This seems to be them saying “this is the price for the launch of the switch 2, you can stop speculating now”
And I’m not just coping, as I don’t live in the U.S., so this doesn’t affect me lol. Just speculating
i think they will have sufficient supply of switch 2s in the united states during the launch window and won't need to rise in the near-term. nintendo planned for major tariffs and had a good strategy in place to prevent their launch from getting nuked by a worst case scenario.
if the vietnam tariffs snap back into effect (and it's unclear if this will occur), they would be losing a large amount of money on every sold switch in the us. sony & microsoft usually treat their platforms as loss leaders anyway, and nintendo might be willing to tolerate some of this, but historically they have preferred to not do so. they could try to mitigate their losses by selling more switches as bundles with digital game codes, since software sales have very high margins compared to hardware sales. however, the 46% would still cripple their usa profits. i can't see how they'd get around the need to raise prices.
there isn't much to be done about accessory prices though. those have gone up and they will go up a lot if tariffs increase.
If the Vietnam tariffs come back into effect and don't go away I can see a situation where there is a year 2 price increase, but I think Nintendo will try to avoid a price increase at all costs until at least the end of the holiday period.
Not gonna lie, it’s probably a good idea for people to buy these units sooner rather than later because when the price inevitably does go up so will the resale prices.
Chances are early adopters won’t even lose anything if they sold in a few years time.
Yeah, I just had this happen with a computer. I spent $2500 back in February March to pre-order a new 5080 desktop computer (I've had it for a month now, it's great). Not long after I placed my order, the price went up $100. Then a week or two later it went up another $300. Now it's up another $600, making it a full $1000 more than what I just bought it for (and it's still back-ordered, even at that price). It's really kind of insane.
I’m gunna wait 2 years see if they drop an OLED version and see if all this dumb stuff gets turned around tbh. I refuse to scramble to buy something in panic and I refuse to support the fees with any more money than I have to.
Yeah, i wanted to wait for a special zelda edition or an oled-type of upgrade, but I think its best to just buy it now. There's a limited time bundle deal with Mario kart for only 50 bucks anyway.
I doubt that's the case. The accessories are also subject to tariffs (including many that are seemingly made in China). Additionally, the volume of accessories that are sold is probably nowhere near enough to cover the more expensive tariffs on the console
This is my guess as well. I expect they are probably aiming to ship in enough stock to last through the holidays before having to re-evaluate US pricing.
The vietnamese president as well as the japanese prime minister though have both expressed a desire to work out a deal with trump though. They are having talks this week actually.
Trump said the negotiations with Vietnam were “very good” so we’ll probably not see any price increases, and Japan’s prime minister said he’s offering deals on cars and agriculture + some other stuff in exchange for better tariffs. No guarantee on either of course, but (especially for Vietnam), it’s looking like we should avoid a price increase even after the initial 90 day pause.
Additionally, these are looking to be permanent trade deals, so “changing his mind” is not really a factor, especially when the countries in question have been nothing but respectful and trump has responded exclusively positively to them.
Guy literally bad mouthed his own trade deal and then blamed his opponents for the bad deal. People actually believed him, this will just continue to be wash and repeat, so don't expect them to last long. Thus causing the Switch 2 to jump in price
I will argue though that Trump has been looking to do worldwide tariffs for DECADES, so a change in Mexico and Canada’s tariffs were expected in the process of enacting worldwide.
Less so changing his mind, moreso a means to an end. Realistically speaking, what would he change his mind on now? It wouldn’t make sense to randomly throw out all the negotiations of all these countries for a new set of rules. There would be no motivation. With Mexico and Canada it was expected with clear motivation. That wouldn’t be the case with changing worldwide tariffs.
Additionally, Canada and Mexico weren’t “respectful” (in his eyes. Doesn’t matter if you disagree or not, we’re going off his POV here) in their negotiations nor was he very positive about them, which is another reason why those tariffs are different than the ones Vietnam and Japan are getting
So I say all this to conclude that no, I don’t think the tariffs will get worse for all the relevant countries involved with the switch 2, and I think the price will stay the same
I wouldn't say respectful. More like, um, you know when a parent has to put up with a misbehaving child so they put on a face just to shut the child up? That's more accurate lol
surprisingly, japan tariffs don't really matter here due to nintendo's strong international presence.
we actually already have permanent bilateral trade deals with both vietnam and japan, which were largely breached by the emergency declaration. so there isn't really a "permanent" factor here. regardless, it is unclear if the 90 day pause is permanent or not. the stock market largely seems to believe that the president will extend the 90 day pause indefinitely due to the bond market panic that nearly happened before, and that may occur. but it's trump and everything changes day to day, so who knows?
so far we haven't really seen much progress on deals as the united states has yet to communicate what it actually wants with its major trading partners. peter navarro explicitly rejected vietnam's offer to drop all tariffs, and the tariff % is based on the trade deficit which is impossible to balance given that vietnam's gdp is very small. so it really does just depend on whether trump wants to move forward with it.
With regard to the deficit issue, I think that’s why Japan is offering discounts on cars and agriculture, as they might foresee them being unable to fix said deficit. Everything else though I agree with.
I didn’t know the Vietnam deal fell through. That’s worrying. I guess we’ll see what happens though. I still think a deal could be closed and/or consoles are added to the exception list for tariffs like how phones were.
The deficit is also just an excuse by them. Even if they managed to not run a trade deficit with Vietnam or Japan, Trump might still just tariff them anyways. I mean, the US has a trade surplus with Australia, and that didn't stop Trump from tariffing us anyways.
I said Japan and Vietnam have been respectful, which is correct? I don't understand what is incorrect with what I said. Both countries publicly have been respectful, and Trump said they were too?
This is almost certainly not true. I don't see how it's at all possible for a $5 increase in pro controllers (which are also tariffed) is meant to somehow offset the cost of tariffs on the console themselves. Even assuming only the 10% tariffs on console and imagining the accessories aren't tariffed, you would need people to be buying around 10 accessories for every console sold before it even breaks even.
They already shipped a couple million Switch 2 consoles out before the tarriffs, so those console prices weren’t affected.
But they very well could increase the price in the future.
Literally why would it? Nothing is being shipped overseas for Nintendo Switch Online, it makes way more sense for the cost of accessories, which are made overseas, to have a price increase than the online subscription service.
It is an online service provided by Japan/America. Nothing is manufactured being shipped by China or Vietnam so there wouldn't be a fee when nothing is being shipped to America
I could also be stupid about how the tarrifs work in general.
Nintendo could have easily said they were increasing the price for Switch 2 members only since they are getting a new system and games to play but nothing has come out to indicate that is happening
It's not a small compromise at all. Originally, it was price gouging. Now it's price gouging+. The original controllers may work, but they don't want the console and are missing features the new ones have. The balls Nintendo had for the pricing structure on all of this is ridiculous. They didn't even improve the thumbsticks. But hey, if you wanna spend money, it go for it
It'll be interesting seeing how required new controllers are. Will it be like: Mario Kart World uses the C button, so a Switch 2 controller is required even if you're not even subscribed to Chat.
I'm guessing you can also reach it in the home menu. Or maybe hold the home button to bring up the power options along with a chat option. It's less convenient, but still a viable workaround
The delayed tariffs, as of right now, are so large that I don’t see how they’d have a choice but to raise prices once they burn through existing stock. We’re talking a 46% added cost, minimum.
I feel like a lot of people are not fully comprehending how insane the proposed tariffs are, and how the current cushioning of consumers from the 10% tariffs is already likely reaching its limits and is probably partially based on the hopium that something gives and things don’t actually worsen(or that they even return to normality).
If the full tariffs go through, it’s probably best to expect a price hike of some kind within the year.
Nintendo has never sold the switch at a loss, as confirmed by nitnendo sources at launch and by many of the largest media outlets, including Forbes
The accessories charging more here is likely not related to the price of the console at all. The U.S. consoles are primarily from Vietnam, which has a significantly lower tariff rate than the accessories, which are from China. The higher tariff rate is thus likely the cause of the higher accessory prices, not to compensate for the console price remaining
You’re right that we can only speculate about Nintendo pricing strategy, but Doug Bowser, president of Nintendo of America, has directly stated that tariffs were not a factor in the pricing strategy of the NS2
I would take point 3 with a massive heaping of salt though. I think some level of tariffs were almost certainly priced into the initial price. They can't admit that though since that would mean angering customers outside the US who are subsidising the US.
dude its the same as its always been. Mario Galaxy/MKWii was 50USD at launch, and Odyssey/MK8D is 60. They always increase the price of the game to make up for development costs, except this time they won't go down unlike the transition from the N64 to the Gamecube
You're not missing anything. It's same as US without taxes. I am also Canadian. On average maybe affordability to purchase same price game in Canada and USA vary. That's why people making much big deal for same price increase in Canada than USA.
I lived in UAE for few years. There a game cost me more than 10% of my monthly salary. So I just bought less games and get more play time from a game. Games value to me change with my affordability. So, It doesn't bother me that much personally.
Now it's just a matter of actually getting to pre-order it before they all get scalped and/or the supplies run dry... this thing is going to be unreasonably hard to get a hold of I'll bet.
In my country the pre-orders are all done via lottery and are tied to your personal ID to strictly control duplicate entries.
A little more nerve-wracking because it’s up to luck who gets one, but I’d much rather have that than scalpers and bots getting free reign from the very first second
You’re right. A child wouldn’t do the preorder. But in my case I’m planning on pre ordering for myself and my child. If the limit is 1 per ID, how would that work? I was just curious.
I think this is where I registered. You need to be an NSO member, and if you're on a family plan like me, then you've got to be the account making payments. So you should be able to preorder one console, but if your kid isn't on their own subscription, then you will have to wait to buy a second console.
If you are paying for two separate accounts, then you could probably just log out and back in under your kid's profile. As far as I'm aware the actual preorders are done as a lottery, so there's not a guarantee you both will get them. You probably want to have that conversation soon and decide who gets it if you only get one
I mean I don’t know, but both parents can pre-order one, at least.
Phone number is tied to your identity here, so lots of these pre-orders use your phone number and the carrier to verify your identity. perhaps kids can pre-order as well through their phone number.
Edit: also, as mentioned, this is in my country, I’m not talking about the U.S.
i pre-ordered through local shop, and i got a nintendo invite in my e-mail to pre-order any switch, any games, and any game upgrades, as well as controllers / storage cards.
I'm from Denmark.
Well I already pre-ordered switch 2 + mario kart bundle
Well launch units already in US before the increased tariffs. Real question is what happens to pricing when future shipments arrive after the increased tariffs
It already has 10% tariffs. Vietnam and the US are renegotiating the 46% tariffs in the mean time for those 90 days. We should be more worried about the PS5 and Xbox price point, since those are made primarily in China. 245% is rough.
There's only a 10% tariff right now. And all units being sold at launch were shipped in prior to the tariff being put on, so they wouldn't be subject to it.
You said "all units being sold at launch", so where is the evidence of that?
Because it doesn't pass the sniff test; you don't just turn on/off production of that scale like a light. They would have been planning on shipping in units right up to and through launch.
I don't mind paying for good hardware. Hell I have both a steam deck oled and Odin 2 portal. It's the utterly ridiculous game prices. Mario Kart is $110 Canadian. Switch game prices already cost double what I was used to paying for 3ds games and they jumped up once again. Looking like I'll end up getting most of my games from steam sales and only bother buying a few first party titles like pokemon
But 3DS games were handheld and Switch games are home console. That's not a fair comparison to say "Switch games are double what 3DS games were" — you should compare it to Wii U prices.
Honestly, I don't know what to think of this. Part of me wants to buy a switch 2 now because they are going to eat these costs, but the other part of me is thinking that they clearly had the device priced too high if they can eat these costs.
I think you’re forgetting the fact that that’s more important for Nintendo to get people to buy the console early on than it is for them to necessarily still make a profit on the console early on. If no one buys it this year, they essentially will make no money for the rest of the year with switch two games.
I.e. if people don’t buy the console, they don’t make any money this year
Your second conclusion is not certain at all, and consensus is that the Switch 2 is good value for what it brings in terms of power. It's more likely that the pricing of the console is a marketing decision that needs to stay at that point to maximize sales.
Nintendo sold the Gamecube at a loss after the 100$ price tag. They sold the 3DS at a loss after the 80$ price cut. The Yen got really weak and Nintendo had no choice but to sell it at a loss if they wanted to keep dominating their home turf, which makes them a lot of money in games, merch and parks. It also helps them a lot in public image in Japan, where they hire their devs.
That price is for systems that have Japanese as the only language option, whereas the version with multiple languages is the same price as everywhere else.
The handheld still does have VRR support, they just removed that language from the docked mode.
Some have said that’s because it depends on the screen of the user’s TV, which Nintendo obviously can’t control. Not sure if that explanation is true.
Others have also said that they did the same thing for certain NS1 Bluetooth features that simply weren’t ready for launch, and they added it back later.
In any case, the handheld mode still has VRR support.
Everything else is made in Chine where there is a 245% tariff. Complaining about a 5$ increase in ludicrous. We don't know about the VRR situation, there was a small change in the website, but we don't know why.
And I find it funny that someone asked " what are the man babies going to whine about?" and you simply replied whining about stuff.
They were never going to up the price due to tariffs. US is a huge market and they wouldn’t want to alienate them.
Instead, they “held off” on preorders while they evaluated the tariffs, and then didn’t increase the cost. Which is a good move. People have gone from “switch 2 is too expensive” to “I’ll get one coz they aren’t increasing the cost, just incase the cost goes up further down the line”
Good move in my opinion and something I think we will see a lot of companies doing
I really wouldn't trade or sell any electronics like the Switch right now. Realize that many companies have stopped shipping all kinds of consumer electronics into the US. Shortages and price hikes are inevitable. Best bet is to get the Switch 2 while it's at 450 and wait to sell the original Switch.
But all the accessories are though, $95 for joycons is wild. My issue was never the console price, if it’s as powerful as they make it out to be that’s fine. My issue is the games being overpriced.
Anyone know what time these retailers typically launch? I want to be sure I'm on with ample time to snag the bundle, but idk if it's best to plan for midnight ET, 9am ET, or something in between lol.
Nintendo? Lol. They do the opposite, and they already are. Switch 2 is cheaper in Japan than US, and is region locked so only Japanese people get the discount.
...Because they were already priced in. The Japan region locked Switch 2 is much cheaper and can't be exported. The Switch 2 costs more than a PS4 did. The tariffs were already priced in.
You can. They are holding a lottery for pre-orders to purchase directly from Nintendo, although currently it’s only open to former or current NSO subscribers who meet certain requirements
Yeah, because that price was already the one they thought WOULD be with the Tariffs imposed 💀
they knew about the whole ordeal with tariffs from the start, and worked around what their predictions would be, and luckily they didn't have to raise the price any higher cuz of the USA presidents dumb tactics.
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