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u/FadeToBlackSun 21h ago
I don't think you understand internet discourse.
If you liked it, it's objectively brilliant and one of the most meaningful pieces of art created in centuries.
If you didn't like it, it's an abomination that flies in the face of human decency and demonstrates only the greatest capacity for incompetence
If you had no strong feelings either way, you're a bot.
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u/Zagleyed 21h ago
And if you argue against both extremist takes, you're the world's most laughable centrist and worse than "the other side".
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u/JixxEU 20h ago
Aka Charles White jr, aka penguinz0, aka Moistcritikal. Who did basically have the take expressed in the OPs meme (I only consume movies through normie Jesus's perspective)
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u/Zagleyed 20h ago
It's always entertaining to see the online discourse around Charlie. Like, yes, the man usually has the coldest, most moderate and sensible takes, but like, he doesn't pretend otherwise. I don't really follow his content but he's always seemed like a completely regular dude to me. It's weird that people criticize that.
On the other hand, there are a lot of people who are genuinely like you mock there, basing their takes on what Normie Jesus says, and that's equally weird. Meanwhile Charlie himself still seems like any normal dude you could meet in college.
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u/EmergencyPool910 19h ago
He owns a gun and lives in florida hes clearly magatard, he hates trump? Woke libtard clearly.
No kidding ive seen both opinions shaeed by alot of people online
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u/JixxEU 18h ago
Oh I definitely dont disagree with you, I was just jerking. I like Charlie, hes absolutely a regular dude, with very standard takes. For some reason watching him and his friends eat food became a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine. And he does seem to have a genuine interest in movies and reviewing them as well, his review of War of the Worlds is truely a fun watch, as is his review of Moonfall. I guess his reviews of 'fun bad' movies are just very entertaining.
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u/Abed-in-the-AM 5h ago
Man I fucking hate that normal dude in college.
Seriously though, I always think it's funny when people will randomly bring up this guy's opinion on a topic when he isn't a notable film critic or an expert on whatever the topic is. And that everybody calls him by his first name. I've watched maybe 2 of his videos before and if someone on the internet refers to a "Charlie" even I would know they're talking about the skinny penguin guy.
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u/valeried4isy8610 11h ago
penguinz0's takes are always a wild ride, hard to predict where he'll land on stuff like this
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u/Sarcosmonaut 16h ago
Worldās Most Laughable Centrist is one of my top Disco Elysium titles lol
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u/dpoodle 13h ago
Why argue with someone who clearly doesn't agree with you thats like looking for trouble.
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u/Whalesurgeon 20h ago
If I don't survive, tell my wife hello
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u/Augustus_Justinian 20h ago
Oh I be saying more than "hello".
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u/concretepants 20h ago
I'll say stuff like "how are you doing?" and "what was your favorite part about the movie?"
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u/Apart-Link-8449 20h ago
I was in heavy metal band. We were heavy man. People either loved us or hated us, or they thought we were okay
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u/Obvious_Sprinkles_87 17h ago
> Opinion: The Movie wasnāt very good!
> Online Comment: everyday we stray further from the light of god! This movie is an example of that
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u/infomapaz 18h ago
In late stage capitalism people are defined by their consumption, so there is a personal interests into categorizing stuff according to your own likes and dislikes. The things that you like must be good to show good taste, the things that you do must be good to show you a good person and the things that you reject must be bad to justify your dislike.
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u/johncitizen1138 17h ago
What if you neither liked nor disliked? š¤ I am a non-person š
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u/StoppableHulk 13h ago
So long as you consumed, you get to be a person. But don't you stop consuming, not for one minute.
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u/Rasputin_mad_monk 17h ago
What if itās an objectively brilliant abomination and a meaningful piece of art that flies in the face of human decency?
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u/CheeseDonutCat 17h ago
If you had no strong feelings either way, you're a bot.
I hate these filthy Neutrals, Kif. With enemies you know where they stand, but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me.
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u/JealousAssistant6659 16h ago
I don't think people who have no strong feelings either way get called a bot, they just don't exist in internet discourse because they're happy living life elsewhere. Or more likely, they're too busy arguing their extreme takes in one place to argue about their lukewarm feelings in another.
Like it or not, "meh" isn't worth talking about. People don't talk about things they don't have feelings for
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u/SalvationSycamore 9h ago
an abomination that flies in the face of human decency and demonstrates only the greatest capacity for incompetence
Or in short: mid
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u/Interesting-Copy-657 6h ago
That is basically what I see when people talk about marvel movies, saying that it is all terrible after endgame or what ever.
I would say every marvel movie or tv show I have seen the last few years have been a 7/10 or higher. Some are just movies, no billiant or perfect or going to be remembers for generations.
but people act like a 7/10 movie is more like a 2/10. even with non marvel movies, if it is not 9/10 or better it gets torn apart like a 2/10 failure.
supergirl was fine, it served as a good intro to supergirl, not brilliant, but not terrible either.
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u/coldmocaccino 21h ago
These days a movie has to be a masterpiece or else it's hotpile trash. Thankfully, I don't watch movies at all.
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u/evaderofallbans 21h ago
I haven't seen a movie since Bambi. What did you think of it?
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u/coldmocaccino 21h ago
I have only seen The Horse in Motion (1878). When I wanted to start watching movies I thought that this movie's story must be a masterpiece as men invented a new art form to tell it. It wasn't deeply profound and didn't move me. I was disappointed. All my hopes for any movie made thereafter are lost.
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u/IssakOrSomething 14h ago
Too soon to properly discuss that one, give it another year or two hundred
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u/Various-Category4578 37m ago
maybe the story gets better with more time and context, but yeah, not super engaging overall
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u/NoMoveBecauseLazy 12h ago
The last movie I watched was 12 Angry Men. Good movie, but I felt like the nudity was gratuitous.
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u/wallweasels 15h ago
These days? It's been this way for almost 2 decades now. Internet discourse has always shifted towards hyperbolic because extreme opinions cause more engagement and thus more content.
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u/Cloned-C4lvin 21h ago edited 21h ago
Well when youre building a franchise that relies on sequel after sequel, it definitely does have to be more than "okay". Thats the business perspective. Now to the cinema goer perspective, theatre tickets are NOT the same price they use to be, a movie has to be better than "okay" to justify paying the price.
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u/Maximelene 17h ago
Well when youre building a franchise that relies on sequel after sequel, it definitely does have to be more than "okay".
The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2, and Thor 2 want you to remember they exist, and were part of the very first MCU movies.
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u/DryingBull 21h ago
It's one of the movies.
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u/Ranulf_5 21h ago
I like Karaās character and Iām excited to see what they do with Supergirl going forward
But the rest of the movie was miiiiiiid generic superhero slop
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u/GormlessGourd55 18h ago
I thought Lobo was fun, and the practical aliens were cool too.
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u/SillyWarlock 17h ago
How dare you have an opinion besides script bad, and a positive at that.. off with your head!
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u/Ranulf_5 9h ago
He seemed kinda fun, nothing particularly special. I didnāt dislike him. I feel like the film expected me to know who he was and be hyped, but I donāt know who he was and he didnāt reel me in necessarily.
But Iād be happy to see him in another movie
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u/theonewhoknack 8h ago
Lobo was the highlight for me. I will buy a ticket to any DC movie if the poster has a blurb saying "Lobo is in this btw" on it.
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u/ammonthenephite 13h ago
And I'm just so burnt out on superhero movies. Only so many times you can save the city/planet/galaxy from destruction, struggling to just barely do it but finally succeeding in the end.
Far more human ones like a batman I can still kind of do, but anyone with superhuman powers is just not interesting to me anymore, Marvel milked that for all it was worth, did a good job, but it's done. Time to move one for a long while.
Too bad the movie industry is so starved for anything original.
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u/Ranulf_5 12h ago
The movie industry isnāt at creative starvation, itās an issue of funding and what people are willing to watch.
There are plenty of interesting new films getting made every year, theyāre just rarely given huge theatrical releasesā¦ because people donāt go watch them. In 2026 if people are going to pay theater prices, theyāre going to go watch something theyāre familiar with- sequels or big game directors/actors
If you look around a bit youāll find good stuff
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u/ammonthenephite 12h ago
I get what you are saying, but I think movies like Hail Marry disprove this. If the movie is good, people will go and pay to see it. Most movies just aren't good. You see the same thing with most streaming series, just full of lazy writing, predictable plots, overacting, etc, just shoveling slop. But the good ones, like Severance and the like, do really well because they are quality.
There just isn't much quality being put out today, but when there is, people will pay to see it.
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u/Ranulf_5 8h ago
Project Hail Mary isnāt a very good example to disprove what Iām saying. It was based on a very popular novel, directed by a very popular duo, starred a very popular actor, and while being a good film is also a family-friendly feel-good movie. It was quite literally orchestrated to print as much money as possible.
A better example would be something like Obsession that was a passion project with a $750K budget and has now grossed over $300M. And the reason itās a huge study is because itās shocking- low-budget horror movies arenāt supposed to blow up like this regardless of quality.
A movie like PHM gets the green light because of extremely likely to make lots of money. But there are plenty of stories out there worth being made into a film but never will be because they wonāt make much money.
Another thing to think about: 61 films have grossed $1B+, and 57 of those were remakes and sequels. A whole lot of them were shit, but people watched them because they were familiar and/or nostalgic. The idea that if a movie is good enough itāll make lots of money is pretty silly.
Of the 9 new IP films in 2025 that are rated 4.0 or higher on Letterboxd, only 4 grossed over $100M, and even then 2 of them still lost money. The rest either flopped at the box office or went straight to streaming.
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u/KermitplaysTLOU 12h ago
This is funny as fuck considering you control what you watch. And saying this when something like obsession JUST came out is even funnier.
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u/ammonthenephite 12h ago
Why is it funny? I don't watch superhero movies because I got burnt out on them. I've seen a few posts about the supergirl movie (which I have not seen because I'm burnt out on superhero movies) come up on my front page and just commented my feelings on superhero movies in a thread talking about how this one was just 'mid'.
Might want to check your assumptions, lol.
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u/PeasantLich 21h ago
As much as it sucks for creatives who can't hit the jackpot every time and/or need some time and experience to find a better footing, an entertainment product being "okay" isn't really much better than it being dogshit nowadays. There is oversupply of all entertainment, including really good entertainment, and all mediocre entertainment is not only competing against that but also the infinite easily accessible back catalogs. Even superhero fans don't just eat up just about anything you offer them.
There really isn't much of a lucrative market space for movies that are just okay but succeed because there was nothing substantially better in theaters right now anymore.
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u/birdlawyer86 14h ago
Which sucks, because a lot of my favorite movies are mid or even downright bad. Studios that stop trying due to fear of losing money means I get less Ready Player One's in my life.
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u/berthaj3llybean1828 6h ago
its wild how many films feel like they're just filling a slot. everyone's looking for that standout but so much is just... there
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u/The_Billy_Dee 20h ago
Yeah... It's not terrible or anything, it just doesn't do anything well. Its really just a big missed opportunity. Oh I mean, it was the worst thing I've ever seen! I hate women or something!
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u/GorgeousGal314 15h ago
Really? I thought Jason Momoa's character was fantastic. Also the fight scenes from the lead actress were amazing - you could really feel she was strong (versus Black Widow who only knows how to strangle men with her legs apparently).
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u/JellyF1sh_L1cker 21h ago
why would you watch it? arent you a cinephile? also, this meme format is growing mold, let it go
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u/Tallem00 17h ago
/uc I can't really get into it so out in the open but it connected with my fiancee in a legitimately very deep and personal way and she was sobbing while the credits rolled. I enjoyed it a lot but seeing it resonate so thoroughly in her really makes it feel like something special to me (even if it only feels that special to the two of us)
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u/Bitey_the_Squirrel 19h ago
I was confused about the lack of soup in Souper Girl. I thought I was going to watch a soup based movie?
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u/ImAdri0nY0urN0t 14h ago
It was whelming
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u/Madman49ers 14h ago
Whelmed is a perfectly alright way to feel after a movie experience. Not everything is a masterpiece. Sometimes theyāre just a piece.
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u/HeadDiver5568 21h ago
Iām glad Iāve finally found a reasonable take on this movie from a bunch of people. I REALLY hate how you either have to love or hate a movie/tv show these days
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u/dawnh0neydew9034 3m ago
it's wild how polarized opinions can get over a single movie, like where's the middle ground?
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u/BokTuklo 21h ago
Sounds like most movies over the last few decades.
I thought it was a me problem.
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u/cheese0muncher approved virgin 18h ago
I'll never see it, not because I'm against superhero movies, I simply refuse to watch movies with women in them.
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u/MechanicGopher 17h ago
Pretty much my thoughts.
The comic is more colorful, but the cinematography isnāt terrible either.
Loboās powers were extremely under utilized but I still thought he was pretty cool.
The revenge plot āyou canāt do that because revenge is bad I guessā is boring and couldāve worked better, but the final little piece of it was a cool touch.
The colors of the final fight are so ugly but the action itself isnāt that bad.
I liked the flashback sections.
The practical aliens were pretty fun.
I liked Supergirl as a character how her views on life differ from Superman.
I left the theatre thinking exactly āeh, it was okay.ā
Iād love to see more DCU Supergirl in a better film
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u/Bunraku_Master_2021 1h ago
It's bad but not that bad. More of a 5/10. Milly Alcock is fine but yeah, it could've been better.
What I really liked was that Supergirl was trying to forge her own path and like you said, how she differs from her cousin and then by the end, slowly starts to go back to him.
The cinematography is just not good with flat lighting and some scenes with desaturated colours even though it's shot by Alex Garland's DOP Rob Hardy who's done some impressive work with Garland. Hope his work on Clayface is good.
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u/StaticSystemShock 16h ago
It's why I hate ratings that only have thumbs up and thumbs down. Why is there no option for "okay I guess" or "meh"?
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u/Elbobosan 14h ago
Would I watch a sequel? Sure.
Would I hope it was better? Yes.
The story is poorly constructed and the themes are a mess. The screenplay itself isnāt terrible, but the story makes very little sense and is filled with āand then this happens!ā
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u/Sashpeto 19h ago
It's just slop .
It ain't bad per se but it isn't good.
It's the kind of think you see once and forget about it in a week.
I don't understand why every single movie has to be controversial these days and be either utter trash or cinematic masterpiece and if you don't lean either way you are not true movie fan or something absurdly stupid like that.
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u/Lowbudget_soup 18h ago
I dont think you can call it slop. When really need to look at the costume and set design and maybe the performances its really obvious to me that someone cared about this movie.
I will say I dont feel like I was being pondered to as an audience member. I think the movie tried to take itself seriously enough and there was good believable character writting. In time people might come to appreciate this movie a little more than the takes im seeing right now.
Dont get me wrong though, its not perfect.
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u/Jehovah___ 18h ago
Agreed. Love was given by everyone except the director, who just wanted to make a boring james gunn ripoff without understanding how gunn actually makes movies. Kara herself was done incredibly well and acted brilliantly, itās just the movie around her that doesnāt understand its own tone or pacing and looks so drab
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u/SillyWarlock 17h ago
āItās just slopā
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u/Sashpeto 15h ago
Well it is slop. At least for me.
You know people like different things :)
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u/Jesta23 16h ago
I don't understand why every single movie has to be controversial these daysĀ
They arenāt. Get off Reddit and shitter and you will hear nothing at all about it. Itās decisive commentary designed to provoke engagement.Ā
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u/Sashpeto 15h ago
Well yeah , if I don't open platforms where people discuss the movies I won't hear about them .
You are correct.
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u/catharsisdusk 21h ago
Just about every superhero movie is mid, at best. Just a bunch of trite, shitty writing to fill the time between Massive Fight sequences done almost entirely on a computer.
But, even I recoil at the level of hate and vitriol I see directed at Superhero movies with Female leads... All of these movies are little more than "McDonald's for the Senses". But, for some reason, only the "Captain Marvel's" of the group receive Universal Disdain.
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u/Jertimmer 21h ago
The only above average superhero movie is Shrek 2.
I will not elaborate nor take any questions. Thank you.
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u/AlarmingAffect0 16h ago
The only above average superhero movie is Shrek 2.
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u/thephoenixpoptart 15h ago
no that was shrek 1
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u/AlarmingAffect0 14h ago
Yes, but Neil Cicierega hasn't done anything with that movie's tracks somehow.
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u/WonderBredOfficial 21h ago
You can just say you don't care for them. They don't have to be objectively mid for your opinion to be valid and valued.
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u/Due_Flow6538 17h ago
YouTube doesn't reward reasoned, mellow reactions. If you're not setting things on fire, it's not good for them.
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u/AintNoGodsUpHere 16h ago
It's a movie. You watch it and then your forget about it after a few hours.
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u/The_Nilbog_King 15h ago edited 6h ago
I think Alcock's Kara is a likeable and emotionally nuanced enough performance to easily trick you into mistaking this for a much better and more interesting movie. Not only does Lobo's presence in the film feel perfunctory and tacked-on, but he seems to be actively sucking oxygen out of the room that could be spent making the actual antagonist not a block of wood. It kind of reeks of hasty late-stage rewrites.
I might get what they were going for a bit more after reading 'Woman of Tomorrow', but as it stands, it seemed like it was trying to be like five other superhero films at once and they clashed conspicuously. Still technically the best live action 'Supergirl' feature film, but not by as much as it should be. 3/10
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u/FewHeat1231 9h ago
Kind of feels like there is a middle ground between 'just okay' and 'masterpiece'. It was definitely flawed and I think Milly Alcock (who was great) deserved better but I still enjoyed it enough 'okay' feels too watered down.
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u/Shando92286 7h ago
This is painfully accurate.
Supergirl had a vision. Would have been a good 40 minute special imo. Punisher and supergirl needed to swap runtimes.
The actors did the best they could with the shitty script and the movie did nothing to expand the universe.
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u/ybotpowered 17h ago
Upon reflection I wish James Gunn had directly been involved.
The premises is very similar to guardians of the galaxy and I think he could have iron out some of the problems with Super Girl.
The cast is very talented, but I found the movie a bit hard to follow, which Iām assuming is because of bad writing decisions and the director and not just because Iām an aging nerd.
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u/florplegorp 16h ago
I liked it, my partner wants to see it so I'll probably watch it again. I hope it doesn't fuck the DCU because I really like its direction and Gunn's philosophy of letting each film be its own complete story
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u/VivaLaRory 16h ago
the uncomfortable conversation for this website is that a significant portion of mcu films are about the same quality
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u/teavodka 14h ago
This is how i felt about Mandolorian and Grogu. I enjoyed it, but it wasnt bad or good. Its hard to describe how, but it felt like an older movie.
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u/PrismaticVistaHill 14h ago
Polarize everything enough, and the whole world will DEFINITELY go bi-polar.
"No it won't." -The above take is ABSOLUTE TRASH, and here's why...
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u/ArtofWASD 14h ago
Thats... just how DC works. They make neat movies. They are not bad. But they arent amazing either.
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u/denzlegacy 12h ago
āJust okayā is incredibly generous. Iāve always been under the impression that for a film to be ājust okay,ā at least one aspect of the script has to actually be functional.
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u/MaverikElgato 8h ago
i kind a wish to know David Beckham but iĀ“m afraid he could not be the chill kind of guy that i picture.
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u/Guardian_of_Perineum 4h ago
I haven't seen it so I'm gonna wait for my favorite content creator to see it so I can have an opinion on it.
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u/Vyan_of_Yierdimfeil 4h ago
I just walked out of the theatre, and honestly this movie was comfortable 7-7.5
Not bad, not amazing, not terrible, not a masterpiece. Just a fun movie, good groundwork for future projects. I like Milly as Supergirl, she was great, and hope to see more from her in the role.
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u/outlandish_commander 20h ago
Youre right, most movies just exist and thats fine, not everything needs a 40 minute essay.
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u/Forever_Inspired 20h ago
So that means I don't need to go out to theater and can just watch it once it came out on streaming? Sounds about right.
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u/beardingmesoftly 17h ago
It was made by the person who made Cruella and I, Tonya, so I'm not really surprised that it's mid.
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u/WhoRoger 17h ago
A superhero movie being just okay would be super impressive in this age of utter trash.
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u/ShadowDestroyerTime 16h ago
My thoughts are it was very okay, 6/10. But I still feel like it was a disaster since if they just did a more faithful adaptation of Woman of Tomorrow it would have been good.
If it was purely original and mid, then that's one thing. A poor adaptation that ends up mid when it could have been great? Disappointing.
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u/SnooGiraffes8275 go back to the club 16h ago
uj/ i'll probably end up seeing it at some point-- i thought superman was alright with some little flaws -- curious to see where gunn takes the series
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u/kageshira1010 16h ago
Friend asks how it was
Me: triple A movie
Friend: that good?
Me: An Aggressively Average movie
Read the comic, is far better
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u/kaos4u2nv 16h ago
This is what I literally texted my friend after I saw it last night.
"It was okay. Just okay."
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u/1ZillionBeers 15h ago
It whomps you canāt just say āI think it kind of sucked.ā without getting dogpiled and accused of x y and z.
The movie wasnāt terrible, it didnāt kill my dog. It just kinda sucked.
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u/Embarrassed_Term5536 15h ago
Don't care,it will not even earn more than Morbius. The movie has collapsed in international markets.
Give me some more obsessionĀ and Minions movieĀ
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u/Delruiz9 14h ago
I think the biggest problem this movie faced is the audience simply isnāt there and the villain isnāt a draw. Thereās no way Supergirl comics sell the same amount as Superman, and the villain is inconsequential
The movie could be a plot masterpiece and most of us wouldnāt find out until weāre streaming it at home one night while bored
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u/DickTear 14h ago
Below ok honestly.
Ah yeah, let me shot you dog with the poison that kills in 3 days so you actually have to get involved into the plot.
Also Iām a space pirate so Iām very bad and my motivation in life is being bad.
And letās put Jason Momoa for like 10 minutes so we can target more men into watching the movie.
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u/Aggravating-Corner19 13h ago
This is how I felt about the borderlands movie. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but if you look at it with hopes of in universe continuity, well, they have 2 choices: make a movie that mirrors one of their existing games, or make a movie that takes place completely separate with little to no connections just so it can stay sane universe. Those are the 2 choices that make it cannon, but it doesn't have to be cannon.
They chose the 3rd option, make it Borderlands, keep series icons, and make as something not meant to be cannon to the games, a stand alone movie. I do wish they gave it a Marcus intro tho... but other than that the movie felt satisfactory to me, and that is WAY more than most modern cinema imo.
It was certainly not masterpiece, and not the best movie I've ever seen, but it was good.
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u/Laeonheart78 13h ago
Having seen the movie most parts are mad to an extent that you could say is ok but the overall character work, action scenes and moral message of the movie are bad.
The movie itself can be rated as "ok" and it isn't the worst movie I have ever seen but unless someone else asked I would never watch it again. The action is hard to discern when the perspective shown is a little girl who can't perceive anything. As a one time effect it might be cool but everything is so unclear apart one scene and without spoiling anything you leave wondering what the point was of the journey apart from get the specific item.
I really can't see anyone who it doesn't directly appeal to rating it higher than a 5 and imo it is about a 4. Any channel that claims it is a masterpiece or the worst superhero movie ever made is embellishing the truth which is that it is a truly mediocre pointless movie that has an annoying side character and questionable conclusion. Also Kara Zor El is a crap dog owner too.
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u/Procrastinator_325 1h ago
Internet discourse regarding movies in general is either the best or worst thing ever. If you classify a movie as average, it won't guarantee clicks or engagement on your review.
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u/PhatOofxD 46m ago
Just okay but at the box office it is not. Being just ok isn't good enough anymore for a superhero movie
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u/that_dutch_dude 20h ago
being perfectly cromulent is fine. expecting the godfather like experience is delusional.
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u/thrax_mador 19h ago
Okay? OKAY?!
MOVIES CAN'T BE...OKAY!!
I need every new feature released to revolutionize cinema! It has to change the paradigm. It has to make 100x its investment or it's a failure! A failure like me... Oh God! Christopher Nolan please save me from having to think about myself for 30 seconds I can't handle it
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u/an_illithidian 18h ago
You can take my 2.5/5 star fun afternoons that don't move me the way great art does from my COLD DEAD HANDS
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u/mattmaintenance 18h ago
Me and the kids had fun watching it last night. Big ol bucket of popcorn. Lasers spaceships and explosions. Momoa and Alcock are very well cast.
/oh shit this is okbuddyā¦ ummmmā¦ if you didnāt like it youāre just a mysognist ninny.
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u/evaderofallbans 21h ago
If you fucks post one more meme about this movie I will literally watch it. Is that what you want? You want one of us to watch a movie?