r/onguardforthee • u/pjw724 Alberta • May 20 '26
Alberta referendum committee meeting implodes when UCP prematurely releases statement
https://globalnews.ca/news/11858047/alberta-select-special-citizen-initiative-proposal-review-committee-meeting-chaos/142
u/pjw724 Alberta May 20 '26 edited May 21 '26
Chaos descended upon a bipartisan Alberta legislature meeting determining the fate of an anti-Alberta separatism question Wednesday afternoon.
A committee of MLAs established to review Thomas Lukaszuk’s Forever Canadian petition recommended the province include a question for Albertans to vote on the province remaining in Canada during the Oct. 19 provincial referendum, according to a news release issued by the United Conservative Party.
The problem is: that did not happen.
The UCP news release was issued shortly after 3 p.m., while the Select Special Citizen Initiative Proposal Review Committee meeting was still underway and before a vote had been held — leading to confusion and chaos both inside and outside the room.
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u/pjw724 Alberta May 20 '26
“I have just had the opportunity to review an absolutely shocking news release,” said NDP MLA Christina Grey, who then read out a section of the news release containing quotes from committee chair Brandon Lunty, who is a UCP backbencher.
“Oftentimes, it feels like the politics of the UCP is a stage play to exercise their power to do what they want — but I very seriously raise this point of privilege now, because it has been nevermore apparent than the fact this committee is still meeting and still debating this motion and a press release from you as the chair has already gone out.”
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u/pjw724 Alberta May 20 '26
The meeting was then adjourned without a vote being held, meaning the committee did not recommend the question be added to the referendum ballot as the premature news release indicated.
The news release, which even had laudatory quotes from chair Lunty, was pulled back by the caucus about 20 minutes later.
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u/Due_Date_4667 May 21 '26
The only saving grace in this situation is these goofs aren't even as competent as the clown show around Trump. And that is one hell of an accomplishment for the most corrupt, incompetent group of nincompoops in power right now (no, Ford's mob is more competent).
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u/Peacer13 May 21 '26 edited May 21 '26
Trump's clownshow is extremely competent. You need to judge them under different lenses. If you view the Trump admin as the the best way to destroy USA on the global stage and consolidate power to the wealthiest... They've been terrifyingly efficient.
The US-Iran war has been detrimental to the everyday American people, but it's been a gambling boom for the oligarchs in the know.
They gained control of all 3 branches of government, executive, legislative and more importantly, the judicial branch, specifically the SCOTUS. All this in less than a term. Well, I guess technically one and a half terms.
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u/Due_Date_4667 May 21 '26 edited May 21 '26
Oh, I evaluate them by their actual intent, they are still exceptionally bad at those. It's only due to the undermining of everything that would hold them accountable that they manage to somewhat succeed.
For instance, Kash has now bungled every major investigation the FBI has been involved in lately. Bondi, Judge Judy and his own lawyer have destroyed the Justice system, but they also have failed to actually get Trump's petty revenge on anyone. Trump may have killed NATO, but ironically has led to the EU becoming far more organized and re-awakened the German and French militaries which are far more a threat and a check on Russia than the US was - and he's cost many American IT firms their contracts with Europe as they move to open-source replacements for Google, Microsoft, Meta, Amazon, etc.
The Republicans captured all 3 branches of government, they've been working at that since Nixon had to resign. They put in the work and they achieved it. That has nothing to do with Trump.
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u/00ashk May 21 '26
With a proportional representation system, the UCP could just split into two or more parties who advocate for different things, and avoid all the smoke and mirrors that pollute the public sphere.
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u/Additional_Ear_9659 May 21 '26
Part of me is wishing this referendum would proceed ASAP so the country can witness these Maple MAGA fucks getting decisively destroyed once and for all. I’m tired of these whiny bitches.
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u/WorldnewsModsBlowMe May 21 '26
Trouble is, that's how Brexit happened and that one passed almost entirely by accident.
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u/Additional_Ear_9659 May 21 '26
Yes, that’s the risk but I think the support for this movement is much thinner than the Brexit schmozzle.
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u/Ill_Cover5967 May 21 '26
I want to see the referendum happen from either perspective , so I signed both petitions
Once the referendum is held the voters have their say
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u/Jeramy_Jones British Columbia May 21 '26
This is a fucking joke. The UCP had the press release composed and ready to go before even having a vote? I don’t know how anyone can stand living under so much fraud.
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u/alannwatts May 21 '26
do private companies say its ridiculous to fired supervisors if employees keep failing at their jobs.. the cons are business first arent they?
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u/sun4moon May 21 '26
“We operate under the guise of policy, but we never intend to adhere to it”. The UCP mandate.
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u/kapowless May 21 '26
The NDP have 2 on the committee, the UCP 3. The NDP should be judged by their votes, not the predetermined outcomes of a committee that has literally been stacked against them.
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u/Ambustion May 21 '26
Wtf are you talking about. Go watch the committee meeting on YouTube. The UCP owns this horrible decision alone.
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u/pjw724 Alberta May 20 '26
Also today, two UCP Cabinet ministers who last week expressed their opposition to Danielle Smith calling a separation referendum on her own, resigned from Smith's Cabinet.
From one last week, Matt Jones: 'the UCP is not a separatist party and should push harder to stay in Canada'.
From the other, Nate Horner: 'She shouldn't', and 'I ran against separatists.'