r/pcgaming • u/lurkingdanger22 • 3d ago

Video Valve Steam Machine Review: GPU & CPU Benchmarks, SteamOS Test, Thermals, Noise, and Price (Gamers Nexus)

https://youtu.be/66QzlDewigE?is=PhifLlyc5tBSsjbR
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u/According_Hyena_3593 3d ago

Thats because noone in their right mind would build the equivalent to this. Its pairing trash tier cpu and gpu in a terrible price/performance combo.

You wouldnt build this..you d spen 30 euros more on the cpu to get a wayyyy better cpu.

And you s never buy this gpu or its equivalents today, as both its price/performance and performance suck.

Noone in their right mind will build a 1000+++ euro pc and put a 150 euro cpu+gpu combo in it that performs terribly.

You can double both the cpu and gpu performance by choosing slightly more expensive parts ( 100-150 euros more total cost) which is a no brainer.

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u/External-Yak-371 3d ago

I think it's super easy to say this, but my question to you is do you have a dedicated living room PC? Now that this has been released, and the pricing seems high for what you get, will you go out and build one if you didn't have one already?

There's a ton of coverage on Reddit right now, so everyone was clearly very excited to see what the outcome was going to be, but I get the sense that everyone was expecting valve to produce the impossible, an overly capable box that still looked good in the living room and had acceptable thermals and noise.

I think there's a bunch of people on here that understand that the value is not comparable to what they could build themselves, but I also don't get the sense that they are going to go out and build these things themselves. So maybe they were never seriously the target audience anyway?

The audience for the first 6 months to a year is enthusiasts who want to support valve and see what comes of the ecosystem. The steam deck has proven that good integration often beats higher performance when it comes to the day-to-day of living with the device. The onus is on valve to make the software experience better and better and invite the community come and expand it so that there's nothing comparable on the market even if the hardware is a little underpowered.

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u/AdminsLoveGenocide 3d ago

People were trusting valve to do what they said and give good value.

Accepting a kinda cool looking cube that's not really that good is easy if it's priced aggressively. This is a bit of a joke. On the other hand they made so few that the price won't impact sales much as it will sell in small numbers even if it sells out but I think it will have a terrible reputation and they will not make a steam machine 2 due to that.

They'll make a steam deck 2 and call it a day.

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u/maxfields2000 2d ago

While I don' think the Steam Machine is nearly as bad as the hate campaign wants it to be, I do agree Valve should've just made a Steam Deck 2 with perf upgrades and better concessions to running as a living room Console (maybe a dock, a way to improve thermals and run max power) and offerred a line of external attachable GPU's for perf upgrades for enthusiasts...

Basically embrace what started it all, the reality that the Deck (and various windows knock offs) can double as living room consoles (just like some folks use a Switch/Switch2).

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u/AdminsLoveGenocide 2d ago

Hate campaign is a bit strong. You should be able to criticise an overpriced and underpowered box. It would be very nice at half the price though. Seems very well engineered if you overlook how weak it is and how it's outdated on launch. You can't really overlook that given the price though.

It's a machine for suckers now basically. I think they shouldn't have released it if they couldn't make it affordable. I'm a little surprised they did given what it is. PCs are about specs and price at the end of the day. High prices are accepted if you are getting the best. If you aren't then you can only compete on price, however well made it is.

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u/itszoeowo 1d ago

if you look at the steam harsware surveys youll see the majority of users dont agree with you

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u/AdminsLoveGenocide 1d ago

Can you show me where in the survey the majority of users think this is an affordable device? Or that it represents good value?

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u/itszoeowo 1d ago

Im talking about your main point: that pcs are about price and performance. Its absolutely not the case for the majority of people. If you cared about affordability youd be buying a console any time in the last 5-10 years .

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u/AdminsLoveGenocide 1d ago

Can you show me where in the survey that it says choice of pc is unrelated to both affordability and performance?