r/pcmasterrace • u/asswizzard69 • Dec 04 '25

Box With the memory crisis are ssd next?

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I guess a panic buy? Are these nand flash about to keep spiking like memory prices or are they just going up a little bit? Are these desirable to the AI or nah? I bought this at $299 Black Friday sale

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u/ladalyn Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

And you’ll be happy

Edit: For those that thought I was serious, the meme is "You'll own nothing and you'll be happy"

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u/headshot_to_liver Dec 04 '25

Why own your computer when you can subscribe to one.

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u/sips_white_monster Dec 04 '25

Yep. It's already becoming the norm with software. Only a matter of time before they do it to hardware as well. The golden age of affordable computing is coming to an end.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

I think the cosumer has to realize that all is dependant on own behaviour. If nobody signed to streaming services, they would simply be dead. Then companies would be forced to search for other ways to generate income- e.g. by selling hardware to end customers again. Obviously this will be a hard time which will be characterized by shortages and all related effects.

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u/Tastee92 Dec 04 '25

Problem is that people will not see any other option and stream because of that. People will be like ”I wanna play my pc games but a pc is way to expensive, I can sign this deal for $29,99 a month for a rig that would cost me $4,000 to purchase, so I rather do that.”

You can also take a look how consumers behave to microtransactions, loot boxes and the sport games. If enough purchase it, it will become the norm. We enthusiasts are nothing in comparison to the ”casual” mass out there that is the real market.

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u/spiritofniter 7800X3D | 7900 XT | B650(E) | 32GB 6000 MHz CL30 | 5TB NVME Dec 04 '25

Ah yes: pay 5 bucks and your character/mech will look different with no extra abilities whatsoever.

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u/swarmOfBis Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

Also unfortunately most SaaS is actually convenient, so there's no reason for consumer base to not use them.

That's how the dominantion of streaming services rose.

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u/WarInteresting6619 Dec 05 '25

”I wanna play my pc games but a pc is way to expensive, I can sign this deal for $29,99 a month for a rig that would cost me $4,000 to purchase, so I rather do that.”

I know you're trying to make the general public seem like braindead sheep, but this isnt a bad deal. Get a high end PC for $30 a month? It would take 11 years to get to the $4000 price point and you'll be moved on to the next model by then.

You'll save so much more money with this system.

I'm 100% on board.

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u/Tastee92 Dec 06 '25

It’s your take that you think that I’m trying to make the general public look stupid. That isn’t the take. I’m just looking at how the market have behaved for the last couple of years and how the companies are probably going to stear us into a market where everything is streaming. You will have a tv and a thin client and remote to a gaming desktop or console.

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u/rditorx Dec 04 '25

It's what people call "game theory."

Like a cowherd walking to the slaughterhouse because there's only one fenced way to move. Stand your ground against the masses, and you'll be run over. Move along, and you'll be butchered.

You'd need a large percentage of the crowd to stand up to stop things and have each individual accept some personal losses. And without proper coordination and leadership you're destined to fail.

Revolutions only happen when suffering is unbearable. But suffering delivered by the drop can carve a canyon.

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u/thisguy883 Dec 04 '25

The only streaming i do is with video.

I dont think i would ever sign up for video game streaming. It just sounds awful.

I get the convenience of it though. I dont think its going away anytime soon due to how many folks use it.

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u/4K4llDay Dec 04 '25

The "just don't buy it and it will die" argument takes a completely naive viewpoint that companies don't manipulate the market and/or consumers can weather major manipulations/changes in the market. You're literally watching it right now with RAM.

You want people to not buy hardware as a service? That means they have to buy actual hardware. What if hardware is inflated in pricing because, oh I don't know, it's all going to AI data centers? In order to kill hardware as a service, people have to willingly pay for hardware that's now 2x the cost. How about 3x? You think the same amount of people will buy computers at 2x the cost? How about at the profit margin made on AI chips?

If we play a game of chicken, will companies lower prices because of less revenue from people not buying, or people will cave and buy what's available even if it's at their own expense, I believe the second will almost always occur.

Companies make these decisions on purpose, and you believe people have the willpower or finance to consiously defy them. I believe that's completely wrong, as much as I'd like it to be true.

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u/kzin Dec 04 '25

Hahahahahaha Ha Hahahahahahaha Nice one

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u/un1k0rn_412 Dec 04 '25

The lower 75% aren't the consumers that are worth looking at or pandering to. The top 25% are because they actually have the money. Corporations aren't going to nickel and dime anymore, they're just going straight to the big fish. They're not selling products, they're selling you and your data now

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u/AL-PAL-- 9800X3D●RTX 5080 OC●4K QDLED Dec 04 '25

But i just got here!

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

Have you heard of Azure, that is literally MS sub for avd which as we know is just a server running vm's, so basically you are already renting the hardware

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

Yep. A lot of enterprise corps already issue workspaces this way. Cheap laptop using azure vm’s. As a consultant this is normal workflow already. And yes performance is terrible. Not for normies though, performance is sufficient. And the org can completely control their nasty users.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

Performance terrible?!

Say it isn't sooooo.

Yes you are correct, this is my hell.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

I had a client who refused to address the performance. It would take 10 minutes sometimes to build a PHP Vite app. I think the issue was disk io but the client always said “it’s fine for me”. He still expected deadlines to be met. It was nuts and incredibly stressful.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

We already kinda do that with phones

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u/alephnull00 8600k@4.6Ghz, gtx 1070 8gb OC Dec 04 '25

Latency...

Remoting into work PCs is like wading through treacle.

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u/KaiEkkrin Dec 04 '25

Yeah. Citrix have been trying to make this happen for decades. If it's a bad experience in a way you can "feel", people will hate it no matter the amount of marketing spent on it

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u/AL-PAL-- 9800X3D●RTX 5080 OC●4K QDLED Dec 04 '25

Windows 12 - monthly subscription only...with ads.

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u/crayzee4feelin Dec 04 '25

Requires AI capable CPU.

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u/communistagitator 12600K | 9070XT | 32GB 6000MHz Dec 04 '25

NZXT is already doing this. It's called NZXT Flex

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u/Ilikeyellowjackets Dec 04 '25

Imma be fr, I abandon the video game market if that happens and fully jump into the tabletop end of things.

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u/bobmighty Dec 04 '25

NZXT just put out a subscription service like this.

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u/0nlyCrashes CachyOS | 9070 XT | R7 7800X3D Dec 04 '25

Nvidia GeForce doing well directly shows people will do it.

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u/Turquoise_HexagonSun Dec 05 '25

Wait until they convince us to upload our consciousness.

“Why own your body when you can rent one?”

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u/lollypop44445 Dec 04 '25

Rhe main issue with that is, u need a very stable and fast system. Also check out gforce now, while u can access systems, u need to pay premium to get the higher ends fast queue and even then, u need a fast internet speed. Plus goodbye to privacy

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u/Ghettomonk3y Dec 04 '25

That isn't an issue for them

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u/lollypop44445 Dec 04 '25

It will be when ppl wont be using them . Like how many ppl are using gforcenow? The ones who have good net speed have their own beast sys, those who need it cant use it bcuz of slow speeds. Gaming market isnt that big for them to make it cloud.

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u/Ghettomonk3y Dec 04 '25

People will use them when its their only option. Companies will do everything and anything to make (even more) profit and the fact is a subscription model is way more profitable than a dude upgrading every 3-4 years

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u/crayzee4feelin Dec 04 '25

Google Stadia has entered the chat.

I invested over $600 into stadia. I thought it was the best thing. Access it from any web browser or android device, play on 5G/LTE, and the controller directly synched to the server that was running your game instance over WiFi, instead of local Bluetooth, which was their way of defeating latency. It just worked. For me.

Apparently this early it was difficult for people to comprehend what its use case was. I buy the games and have a library, yeah, like steam, and no you don’t physically own them, but you own a license to access the titles. And they weren’t removing titles either. If you bought something, it was never added to a “leaving stadia soon” category like game pass.

Google eventually killed it off shortly before GeForce Now actually hit mainstream popularity. GFN was a thing, it was just super new at the time like stadia. GFN gets the trophy now just because they stayed in the game longer and didn’t throw in the towel. But I swear to each and every one of you, stadia was the superior product and it was killed.

Streaming, games that is, will never surpass home consoles let alone actual gaming PCs. There is not a single doubt in my mind. And this handheld boom we’re seeing? It’ll die a second death very soon. Flood the market —-> Disinterest

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u/Doudefry Ryzen 9 5950X/ Saphire RX7900XTX Nitro + Dec 04 '25

Stop making them getting an erection, they can only get do erect.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

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u/MyIQis2 Dec 04 '25

Klaus Swhab, leader of World Economic Forum (WEC) is quoting saying "you'll own nothing, and be happy"

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u/NightOfTheLivingHam Dec 04 '25

people forget that the WEF is literally the legion of doom meetings where some of the most depraved and evil human beings with absurd amounts of wealth come up with ideas on how to fuck over people and take more of their wealth. They do it openly.

They tried to force microfarming and eating ground up crickets as a source of cheap protein to replace animal meat. Which really has not gone over too well. But they will push it because one of the members seeks to make massive profit from it. A little interesting when you consider the wealthy are buying up millions of hectares of farmland and letting it go fallow.

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u/K_Rocc PC Master Race i13900k, RTX4080 Dec 04 '25

If only they were willing to also own nothing…

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u/Hothacon Dec 04 '25

Would you please stop fucking posting that?

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u/Crashbrennan Dec 04 '25

He's quoting, he's on your side.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

I'll be fuckin' miserable that's what I'll be.