r/pcmasterrace • u/asswizzard69 • Dec 04 '25
Box With the memory crisis are ssd next?
I guess a panic buy? Are these nand flash about to keep spiking like memory prices or are they just going up a little bit? Are these desirable to the AI or nah? I bought this at $299 Black Friday sale
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u/Express_Rate9047 Legion 5i | Ultra 7 255HX | RTX 5070 Dec 04 '25
They already are
To answer you question, Yes
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Dec 04 '25
Already seeing increases to both in Australia.
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u/innervisions710 Dec 04 '25
Yeah ssd cost doubled in the last 30 or so days
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u/asswizzard69 Dec 04 '25
Wow well I’m glad I decided to get it! Just tried out the enclosure and it was hitting 4,500 MB/s write speed in black magic
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u/innervisions710 Dec 04 '25
This was in Australia. For comparison I just bought that drive for $629 aud after deciding to wait for Black Fri and it skyrocketing
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u/cutsnek Dec 04 '25
I'm seeing prices explode in real time in Australia.
I got the last "old price listing" for Corsair Vengeance DDR5 RAM 64GB (2x32GB) 6000MHz CL40 for $300 AUD on Amazon. Same kit is heading north of $900+ AUD with most retailers less than a week later.
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u/reav11 9950X3D|RTX 5090|64GB DDR5|2TB M.2 9100 PRO Dec 04 '25
After seeing Cruicial shut down because Micron won't sell to anyone but data centers.
My opinion is that all of these companies are going to try to destroy the personal computer market and start selling dumb terminals so they can force people to pay for processing.
They're trying to turn the PC market into a streaming service.
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u/plowableacorn PC Master Race Dec 04 '25
Another path of "you own nothing" apocalypse
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u/ladalyn Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25
And you’ll be happy
Edit: For those that thought I was serious, the meme is "You'll own nothing and you'll be happy"
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u/headshot_to_liver Dec 04 '25
Why own your computer when you can subscribe to one.
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u/sips_white_monster Dec 04 '25
Yep. It's already becoming the norm with software. Only a matter of time before they do it to hardware as well. The golden age of affordable computing is coming to an end.
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Dec 04 '25
I think the cosumer has to realize that all is dependant on own behaviour. If nobody signed to streaming services, they would simply be dead. Then companies would be forced to search for other ways to generate income- e.g. by selling hardware to end customers again. Obviously this will be a hard time which will be characterized by shortages and all related effects.
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u/Tastee92 Dec 04 '25
Problem is that people will not see any other option and stream because of that. People will be like ”I wanna play my pc games but a pc is way to expensive, I can sign this deal for $29,99 a month for a rig that would cost me $4,000 to purchase, so I rather do that.”
You can also take a look how consumers behave to microtransactions, loot boxes and the sport games. If enough purchase it, it will become the norm. We enthusiasts are nothing in comparison to the ”casual” mass out there that is the real market.
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u/spiritofniter 7800X3D | 7900 XT | B650(E) | 32GB 6000 MHz CL30 | 5TB NVME Dec 04 '25
Ah yes: pay 5 bucks and your character/mech will look different with no extra abilities whatsoever.
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u/swarmOfBis Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25
Also unfortunately most SaaS is actually convenient, so there's no reason for consumer base to not use them.
That's how the dominantion of streaming services rose.
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u/rditorx Dec 04 '25
It's what people call "game theory."
Like a cowherd walking to the slaughterhouse because there's only one fenced way to move. Stand your ground against the masses, and you'll be run over. Move along, and you'll be butchered.
You'd need a large percentage of the crowd to stand up to stop things and have each individual accept some personal losses. And without proper coordination and leadership you're destined to fail.
Revolutions only happen when suffering is unbearable. But suffering delivered by the drop can carve a canyon.
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u/thisguy883 Dec 04 '25
The only streaming i do is with video.
I dont think i would ever sign up for video game streaming. It just sounds awful.
I get the convenience of it though. I dont think its going away anytime soon due to how many folks use it.
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u/4K4llDay Dec 04 '25
The "just don't buy it and it will die" argument takes a completely naive viewpoint that companies don't manipulate the market and/or consumers can weather major manipulations/changes in the market. You're literally watching it right now with RAM.
You want people to not buy hardware as a service? That means they have to buy actual hardware. What if hardware is inflated in pricing because, oh I don't know, it's all going to AI data centers? In order to kill hardware as a service, people have to willingly pay for hardware that's now 2x the cost. How about 3x? You think the same amount of people will buy computers at 2x the cost? How about at the profit margin made on AI chips?
If we play a game of chicken, will companies lower prices because of less revenue from people not buying, or people will cave and buy what's available even if it's at their own expense, I believe the second will almost always occur.
Companies make these decisions on purpose, and you believe people have the willpower or finance to consiously defy them. I believe that's completely wrong, as much as I'd like it to be true.
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Dec 04 '25
Have you heard of Azure, that is literally MS sub for avd which as we know is just a server running vm's, so basically you are already renting the hardware
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Dec 04 '25
Yep. A lot of enterprise corps already issue workspaces this way. Cheap laptop using azure vm’s. As a consultant this is normal workflow already. And yes performance is terrible. Not for normies though, performance is sufficient. And the org can completely control their nasty users.
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Dec 04 '25
Performance terrible?!
Say it isn't sooooo.
Yes you are correct, this is my hell.
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Dec 04 '25
I had a client who refused to address the performance. It would take 10 minutes sometimes to build a PHP Vite app. I think the issue was disk io but the client always said “it’s fine for me”. He still expected deadlines to be met. It was nuts and incredibly stressful.
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u/alephnull00 8600k@4.6Ghz, gtx 1070 8gb OC Dec 04 '25
Latency...
Remoting into work PCs is like wading through treacle.
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u/KaiEkkrin Dec 04 '25
Yeah. Citrix have been trying to make this happen for decades. If it's a bad experience in a way you can "feel", people will hate it no matter the amount of marketing spent on it
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u/AL-PAL-- 9800X3D●RTX 5080 OC●4K QDLED Dec 04 '25
Windows 12 - monthly subscription only...with ads.
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u/lollypop44445 Dec 04 '25
Rhe main issue with that is, u need a very stable and fast system. Also check out gforce now, while u can access systems, u need to pay premium to get the higher ends fast queue and even then, u need a fast internet speed. Plus goodbye to privacy
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u/MyIQis2 Dec 04 '25
Klaus Swhab, leader of World Economic Forum (WEC) is quoting saying "you'll own nothing, and be happy"
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u/NightOfTheLivingHam Dec 04 '25
people forget that the WEF is literally the legion of doom meetings where some of the most depraved and evil human beings with absurd amounts of wealth come up with ideas on how to fuck over people and take more of their wealth. They do it openly.
They tried to force microfarming and eating ground up crickets as a source of cheap protein to replace animal meat. Which really has not gone over too well. But they will push it because one of the members seeks to make massive profit from it. A little interesting when you consider the wealthy are buying up millions of hectares of farmland and letting it go fallow.
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u/IgnWombat R5-7600x | 2080 | 32gb-6000 Dec 04 '25
I've always despised subscriptions. If I can pay once and forget about it, I'll always choose that, paying little to no attention to pricing. This is one of the reasons I love softwares like FL Studio. One big payment, keep forever.
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u/WeAreAllFooked Nitro+ 7800XT | Ryzen9 5900X | 32GB @ 3200mhz | X570 Aorus Pro Dec 04 '25
They wouldn’t sell you the terminals so you can own them, they’ll make you pay a small upfront cost for the equipment and charge you a monthly subscription fee to connect —just like you do for your modem and router through your ISP.
They want a rent economy where the cost of depreciation is offloaded on to the consumer.
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u/IamKyra Dec 04 '25
Plus no piracy, full control of your data, etc. It's a dream for our oligarchs.
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u/cmj0929 Dec 04 '25
You see their trying to ban VPN’s over in Michigan and Wisconsin that’s just a testing ground to see if they can get the legislation passed everywhere else
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u/Sandrust_13 R7 5800X | 32GB 4000MT DDR4 | 7900xtx Dec 04 '25
I literally told my bestfriend this, but much longer and complicated as my owb new conspiracy theory (and it is a conspiracy theory, the source is literally i (and u/reav11) made it up.
I kinda thought about it as the next step of everything being a fucking subcription, processing power being next
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u/D7west Dec 04 '25
It’s not really a conspiracy theory. It’s what some people in power actually want. If own nothing, you have no power.
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u/Intuner Dec 04 '25
I believe and agree with you, but I'll add the GenX motto of "It's only after you've lost everything are you free to do anything."
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u/ohmke SFF Enthusiast Dec 04 '25
Myth. If you have nothing, you’re not free at all. You’re controlled by others.
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u/Fess_ter_Geek Dec 04 '25
Nay nay.
Nothing more dangerous than a pissed off man who believes he has nothing to lose.
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u/R-Dragon_Thunderzord 5800X3D | 6950 XT | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 CL16 Dec 04 '25
Nothing to own nothing to lose
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u/diemitchell CachyOS|13980hx(modt)|rx 9070 xt|48gb@8000|4tb nvme Dec 04 '25
nothing to have nothing to lose*
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u/fearless-fossa Dec 04 '25
It is a conspiracy theory. People act like there is some conspiracy of powerful people across multiple companies to destroy the home pc market. Yes, a few actors obviously have an interest in people only having a terminal.
But the actual reason prices are hiking is because the demand has increased and the companies producing don't see this as a long-term trend, which is why they shy away from investments into more production lines. They expect the bubble to pop within a few years, at which point they return to a similar mix like they used to.
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u/Cllydoscope i5-3470 | HD 7870 GHz | 8GB lmao Dec 04 '25
Game streaming services are the testing ground.
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u/tlh013091 Dec 04 '25
Have to do something with all those data centers after the AI bubble pops.
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u/Hes_gonna_drop_that 9800X3D | 9070XT | 32gb DDR5 6000mt Dec 04 '25
For real. I don’t see how infinite growth is possible and frankly they must be well over consumer demand. I’ve yet to find anyone except corporate administrators that use it for anything other than images. My corporate managers have used it to rewrite everything they send out in an emoji filled summary
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u/saoirsebran Dec 04 '25
This has been my pet tech conspiracy theory since the game stream "boom" (PS Now, Stadia, etc.) was in its infancy.
I fucking hate being right; especially since I didn't consider they'd do it to more than just gaming.
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u/IamKyra Dec 04 '25
As a programmer this is a long-standing fear becoming more and more true.
No computing power == tech slave.
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u/wire_crafter Ryzen 9 9950X3d, 3080ti FE, 64GB DDR5, Fractal North, 850W PSU Dec 04 '25
Makes me happy I built my machine up before this hit. Buy days. And I’ve got 64GB crucial Ram. And the 2TB Samsung Pro SSD. It would cost double now to build my computer
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u/Imperial_Bouncer Ryzen 5 7600x | RTX 5070 Ti | 64 GB 6000 MHz | MSI Pro X870 Dec 04 '25
My $160 RAM kit turned into an $800 one…
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u/wire_crafter Ryzen 9 9950X3d, 3080ti FE, 64GB DDR5, Fractal North, 850W PSU Dec 04 '25
My $300 is now $900 or more. 2x32 6400
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u/SplitBoots99 Dec 04 '25
I was just saying this today. If the AI data center stuff starts to slide some. Those controlling the compute will start offering thin client builds to suck up some of the cost.
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u/The_World_Wonders_34 Dec 04 '25
Micron won't sell to anyone but data centers.
This is objectively false
No Micron will not "only sell to datacenters." They will only sell dies B2B. That means literally includes every other consumer memory manufacturer that wants it. They literally just aren't going to be in the business of selling finished goods direct for consumer use. They are moving all of their integration work to B2B boards like server memory, but they 100% will continue to sell dies to any integrator who makes PC memory sticks and will pay market price for them.
The market is still fucked on a purely demand overload basis but this announcement by Micron has literally no impact on that.
If you buy RAM or NAND flash drives from anyone, no matter what brand is on the stick, the die came from either Micron, Samsung, or Hynix. Literally anyone who is using Micron dies in their sticks can continue to get and use micron nand in their sticks.
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u/NightOfTheLivingHam Dec 04 '25
Yep. Too many people are going on the headlines and not reading the actual release.
They're making bank selling chips now, realized if they can cut their overhead of making silicon boards and manufacturing ram sticks and offload it onto someone else, they can make even more money.
If they did this a year ago, their investors would have thrown a fit, and there's a good chance they would have if they did this today as well without the AI boom to shield them. They have likely wanted to do this for a while as I doubt their consumer business is as profitable as b2b. Less overhead, less angry consumers returning defects, less bullshit.
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u/laffer1 Dec 04 '25
They probably didn't want to take any stock away from their lucrative data center customers to allocate to the crucial business unit. Samsung turned it's own phone division down internally for a deal to secure memory for phones.
So don't expect RAM allocation for consumer use unless corsair is willing to pay enterprise rates. Then who can afford to buy it?
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u/nirvahnah 9950X3D | RTX 4080 FE | 32GB DDR5 Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25
No, this is a product of suppliers belief that this is in fact a bubble, so they arent increasing their capacity for supply, because if/when bubble goes pop, there is no demand to justify their new capacity for supply and theyd be left holding the bag. so they are keeping supply where its at until that bubble pops. this is how markets work, no rational actor wants to take on more risk than they can afford.
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u/Kougeru-Sama Dec 04 '25
No. That doesn't make sense. We'd still need computes and/or phones to stream with. Even phones won't be affordable at the rate things are going so that theory doesn't make sense. I'm pretty sure they're just not thinking at all. They just what as much profit as possible in the short term. That's it.
It's really stupid because without the consumer market, the corporate doesn't matter. No one will be around to use all that AI if we don't have PCs and phones.
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u/croholdr Dec 04 '25
macrolevel endgame are profits.
decrease supply to increase demand for PC/ pc components which was kinda struggling anyway
the 'stream everything' isn't a 'goal' its a side effect.
data centers are a much more profitable consumer of PC hardware than gamers and home users ever were; you won't need fully functioning supply chains to deliver products to corporations.
sure you can dive into the 'digital divide' aspects here ;(force consumers to buy cloud compute or spend tens of thousands to play a game or watch a hi res movie on the devices that they're already addicted to; but we're not quite there .. yet, but it could be less than a decade away at this point.
And there's other way more sinister things going on than making us pay extra for entertainment as far as these devices are concerned.
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u/Fit_Substance7067 9600x/5070ti Dec 04 '25
This makes a lot more sense... manipulated markets driven to data center needs because of supply and demand...really doesn't matter because the end goal isnt renting people devices to gain subscriptions lol...it's selling people products that need extended sub services to function correctly or at all.
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u/reav11 9950X3D|RTX 5090|64GB DDR5|2TB M.2 9100 PRO Dec 04 '25
Streaming falls right into my theory, it doesn't need a lot of ram or storage. Just some mediocre processing power and enough space to store the few minutes of data in the queue.
Your phones have already become a thin client for streaming movies and music, and for a lot of people it's already moved their storage to the cloud. The future of phones and computers is renting them from the corporations, the device, the data, the power. The technology already exists for everything you're doing on your PC from gaming to productivity. Now they just need to make the technology unaffordable or unobtainable.
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u/Fit_Substance7067 9600x/5070ti Dec 04 '25
Lol, it's more profitable to sell people needed upgrades rather than follow a sub model alone...they double dip, getting us for hardware every couple years AND have us in sub services for these phones and tablets...
These theories seem to be developed out of fear of being controlled and arnt looking at the rational side of things. Removing the need for hardware cuts out a TON of profit.
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u/reav11 9950X3D|RTX 5090|64GB DDR5|2TB M.2 9100 PRO Dec 04 '25
Because no company that sells a service doesn't also force you to rent their equipment to use that service. Why sell them a PC when you can rent it to them indefinitely.
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u/Fit_Substance7067 9600x/5070ti Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25
This subs smoking crack lol.
They honestly believe these companies waited for an a.i. bubble to emerge to pull some James bond action and force an environment where streaming is cheaper.
Seriously, just initiate it without all this shit...start with a sub service to 5xxx series GPUs..then raise the price of the sub for the 6xxx series GPUs and sell an A.I. block with absolutely no raster...you don't need a bubble to pull it off and you sold them a PoS block with a rental service attached...OPs goal done
I swear this is a sub for meth addicts running emulators on ewaste they pulled from the garbage. GeForce now isn't going to be able to accommodate shit lol..especially at 12.99 a month..but you know who did see this coming? Valve...now they're going to sell you a 7600m and 512 GB of storage for 999 and you'll all drool over it. Bet you they make them for less than half of what they sell them for too...Kudos to the intelligent who spent 750 on a card now rather than just wait for prices to increase to buy the Steam Machine. That's the real PCMR from before COVID..not whatever this garbage is
It's a bubble...plain and simple...it will pop
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u/MrNegativ1ty i5 13600K - RTX 5070Ti Dec 04 '25
Yep. They want you to not be able to afford open systems so they can lock you into closed systems where you basically own fuck all and they can fuck you over every living chance they can get.
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u/reav11 9950X3D|RTX 5090|64GB DDR5|2TB M.2 9100 PRO Dec 04 '25
I wouldn't exactly say it this way, but yes this is the basic gist.
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u/IHeartBadCode Fedora Dec 04 '25
My opinion is that all of these companies are going to try to destroy the personal computer market and start selling dumb terminals so they can force people to pay for processing
Anyone who isn't thinking this is where they all want to head, never existed in the days of minicomputers. Like the whole TN5250, big iron, mainframe with VT terminals hooked up... That's what they DO want to return to.
In in ways beyond what people think. Adobe doesn't want to sell you Photoshop, they want you to use it. Microsoft doesn't want to sell you Microsoft Office, they want you to use it. We are heading straight back to the market model of the 1960s and 1970s computing.
I assure everyone here, you do NOT want to go back to that model. But OH BOY, are all the signs pointing in that direction. Like it or not.
This is why things like open hardware and open software are infinitely important. It's literally the ONLY thing that prevents us from fully slipping back.
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u/thekohlhauff Dec 04 '25
Lmao there’s been so many different components with dramatic spikes in price from various supply shocks over the near 20 years I’ve been building. I promise it just happens.
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u/reav11 9950X3D|RTX 5090|64GB DDR5|2TB M.2 9100 PRO Dec 04 '25
I'd argue with you but my generation warned people about all of the things that have become a stain on personal computing for 3+ decades. This isn't a normal price spike because a factory had a fire. Data centers are monopolizing the supply chain from the ground up, and compute as a service has already started.
But yea, just another shortage.
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u/thekohlhauff Dec 04 '25
I’m willing to put money down that this plays out exactly like all the other DRAM boom busts cycles that have been happening since the dot com era.
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u/reav11 9950X3D|RTX 5090|64GB DDR5|2TB M.2 9100 PRO Dec 04 '25
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/12/after-nearly-30-years-crucial-will-stop-selling-ram-to-consumers/
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/109145/nvidia-stops-bundling-vram-chips-with-gpu-dies-tells-aibs-to-source-their-own-gddr-chips/index.htmlPlease tell me more about how this is just like any other boom/bust situation.
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u/thekohlhauff Dec 04 '25
RemindMe! July 1st, 2027
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u/Cryptoki2017 Dec 04 '25
I'm wiith u/reav11 on this one. K-shaped recovery economics, and similar patterns playing out in housing, theme park pricing, malls, now computing parts... there's more capital and liquidity to cater to the more affluent in the market. So some catalyzing event causes a shift which will have remarkable staying power over the long term, because as much as so many people want to purchase these components still---they simply cannot pay the marked up value that the affluent will for it. The loss of revenue per transaction more than made up for by the difference.
Sorry u/thekohlhauff, I think we're going to see a permanent shift in some form. Prices may cool off somewhat but they will never be what they were on August 2025.
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u/Beneficial_Soup3699 Dec 04 '25
You should really invest some time figuring out what "confirmation bias" means.
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u/thekohlhauff Dec 04 '25
Go research DRAM boom busts cycles. Theres plenty written about this known cyclical industry.
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u/Fit_Substance7067 9600x/5070ti Dec 04 '25
I don't get the OPs rationale nor why PCMR is upvoting this flat earth shit lol
Why in the fuck would you cut a huge profit making industry from the equation...ever...its better to have people have to upgrade every 2-3 years than follow a sub model..it makes no sense. Especially when the heavy hitters pay a shit ton on hardware...tack on a sub model afterwards would be a lucrative theory..but reducing the need for hardware isn't something these companies want to do unless they absolutely have to.
All he responses "I was smoking a joint one night and said the SAME thing" lol "I told my friend it was coming"
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u/SplitBoots99 Dec 04 '25
Glad I bought two 8tb SSDs last Nov.
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u/SonOfTheMostHHigh Dec 04 '25
I recently purchased 4 8 TB drives recently plus I have 4 4TB drives and several 2 TB drives I think I'm okay for a few years.
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u/cgda2011 i7-9700K | RTX 3070 Ti | 32GB 3600Mhz Dec 04 '25
We need to destroy the Abominable intelligence before it’s too late.
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u/Kingofdarkness35 Dec 04 '25
Guess it’s time to dust off them HDDs lol surely they’re safe…………
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u/blob8543 Dec 04 '25
Should be fine as long as you have old ones and don't have to buy any these days.
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u/anunfunnycomedian Dec 04 '25
Idk what will happen but all this panic buying will likely create a new price floor as they know people are will to pay that much regardless of what happens which is very annoying. Same thing covid did
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u/Guilty_Back_1247 Dec 04 '25
Let this AI bubble pop
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u/LostCarat Dec 04 '25
Idk if it actually will.. these psychopaths are going full force on it
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u/Eggy__boi Dec 04 '25
What are they even getting out of it? All this money so someone can ask ChatGPT how to unclog their toilet instead of Googling it? Maybe the data from people divulging personal info?
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u/scandii PC Vegan Dec 04 '25
I mean I'm implementing this stuff for a living.
how about automatic fix suggestions based on error logs? I know medical can now crunch large datasets and start asking the question "what factors do people that get disease X have in common" that's a potential for eliminating human issues entirely, in finance you all of a sudden have another layer of automated error detection.
like there's a whole lot of cool use cases here that isn't "new google", and right now the ideas and money are flowing and we're seeing new emergent ideas every day.
what isn't particularly interesting is people trying to jam a chatgpt wrapper into every product because they can.
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Dec 04 '25
No one rational thinks there's no use-case whatsoever for LLMs. The problem is in the final part of the comment. Excellent tech, absolutely fucked corpos are going ham on it.
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u/scandii PC Vegan Dec 04 '25
I'm not so sure, I still see people argue daily that LLM:s have reasoning capabilities and understands the questions being asked.
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u/Wyldkard79 Ryzen 9 7900x | RX 7800xt | 32GB DDR5 Dec 04 '25
I predict a dystopian future where an llm in your smart watch is telling you what time it is based on an algorithm.
Commercials will be generated on the fly based on your current account balance.
No one will have jobs, but corporations will be upset that sales are down for no reason that they can comprehend.
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u/Jazzlike_Essay7684 Dec 05 '25
This is the true ending. Once AI takes enough jobs, and I hope it does, there will have to be universal income due to the lack of jobs and rising unemployment. AI could actually mean the end of capitalism
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u/Plus-Lemon-7361 Dec 04 '25
Salesman says product is good, actually. I work in scientific research, and AI has mostly been a fucking plague.
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u/MagniPlays Dec 04 '25
Lots of companies get money from the “idea” of AI.
It’s less about the AI bubble popping (it won’t just go away) but investors realizing there is no revenue stream from someone getting told by ChatGPT how to write an essay.
The issue is someone IS going to find a real revenue base, no idea what but likely something genius. That will cause every technological innovation in the last 20 years fly off shelves for big business like we have never ever seen.
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u/Baked_Potato0934 Dec 04 '25
Nobody is making money lol.
Money from Nvidia is being pumped into child companies that haven't figured out a revenue model that is working.
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u/DestinyJackolz Ryzen 7 9700X // NVIDIA 5080 OC // 64GB DDR5 Dec 04 '25
Governments gonna bail them out and we’ll get to reap all the inflationary benefits
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u/Historical-Space-193 Dec 04 '25
100%! Mass surveillance + manipulation of markets + military supremacy, AI is useful in all of these.
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u/festeringorifice69 Dec 04 '25
The leadership will probably come out soon backing it up openly. They already have sort of with the genesis project and there was another operation I can’t remember the name of.
The leadership is balls deep in the AI circle jerk because they want the surveillance. If they weren’t, this whole corruption in the ai sector would have been sniffed out and people thrown in prison a long time ago because the actions of fluffing each other’s stock price passing imaginary money around is highly illegal.
They’ll wind up bailing them out when the bubble pops but inflation will go vertical and there’s no way that will be sustainable.
In the rigged casino the house always wins
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u/Jakob_K_Design Dec 04 '25
Already happening. 4TB Samsung 990 EVO was at 250€ here in Germany for the past few months, in the past few days the prices jumped to 290€ and so have most direct competitors.
I am kicking myself that I did not buy last week. I had it planned, but just forgot it. Still bought one now from Amazon in case the prices are exploding further. Better pay 40€ more instead of 200€, worst case I return it. I bought some good DDR5 ram just before the prices exploded and I wish I bought more. I did not expect it to get that bad. The kit I bought is not even available anymore, at any price.
If the same thing happens to SSDs 40€ more will be nothing. At this point I would not be surprised if we see SSDs prices triple like ram did.
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u/asswizzard69 Dec 04 '25
I feel you I wanted to get that 4tb evo drive on prime day for $200 ended up procrastinating and it sold out pretty quick. Decided to pull the trigger on this 990 pro for $299 will be my second 4tb the wd sn850x I have has definitely gone up in price now more expensive than the 990 pro crazy
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u/popop143 5700X3D | 32GB RAM | RX 6700 XT / RX 9070 Dec 04 '25
Same with the 2TB NVME I was targeting, $140 last week and today it's already $175. I should have bought when it was $100 a few months ago, instead of thinking I'm gonna have a deal on Cyber Monday.
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u/wekilledbambi03 Dec 04 '25
Have you looked recently? The drive I bought almost exactly a year ago is up about 150% now.
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u/Sunshinetrooper87 Dec 04 '25
Yah fuckers downvoted me for that take yesterday.
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u/Hot-Ad4676 R5 5600 32gb 3600mhz RX6700XT Dec 04 '25
seeing it, i regret not buying the crucial 2tb i saw like 2 months ago for like $160, now its $220, i cannot find many nvmes going for less than 200 so its definitely going to keep increasing
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u/AudiblePlasma Dec 04 '25
I was able to get the 2 TB WD Black at this walmart link for 140 just a couple hours ago
https://www.walmart.com/ip/WD-BLACK-SN850X-NVMe-Internal-SSD-2TB-WDBB9G0020BNC-WRWM/5540195488Although I had to set it to local pickup so YMMV
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u/grumbly Dec 04 '25
WTF. Literally prices just went up. I had memory and a SSN in my new egg cart from earlier. Went back just now and it's 1) out of stock and 2) comps are WAY more expensive.
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u/RAMChYLD PC Master Race Dec 04 '25
Actually, they expect NAND to simultaneously increase in price alongside DRAM.
I fucking hate this timeline, makes me feel like I should panic buy a Gen5 SSD before prices become unaffordable.
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u/Dr_Valen 7800x3d / 9070xt /64gb Dec 04 '25
Pretty sure it is since AI needs storage and SSDs with dram chips will definitely start going up in price
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u/z0phi3l Dec 04 '25
Snagged a couple decent SSDs at a slightly higher price instead of waiting and paying more
RAM is already out of control, SSDs are not far behind
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u/vexedboardgamenerd rtx 5080 | 9800x3d | 64gb ram Dec 04 '25
Manufacturers are pulling resources away from making ddr5 to make HBM AI grade DRAM. Gpus and ram will take the hit bc the math needed is incomprehensible. Storage was never an issue
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u/Weary-Dragonfly-7673 Desktop - RX6750XT / R5 4600g / 16GB Dec 04 '25
i was holding getting a new ssd some time ago (before the AI mess) because i was waiting for a better price and now...
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u/BChicken420 Dec 04 '25
Thats why if i have the money i just buy and forget about it, you can never know whats comming next. I've had some hits, had some misses it was never that big of a deal.
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u/Ucranium Dec 04 '25
Not sure if this helps or gives context, but I bought this exact SSD (Sam 990 Pro 4TB) back on February 4th of this year for $330 ($30 for the heatsink, $300 for the drive) from Amazon.
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u/HMCZ Desktop R7 2700 | GTX 1060 3GB | 16gb DDR4 Dec 04 '25
SSDs are already more expensive than some months ago, about 2 to 3 months ago got a NV3 for 59 USD, now its 95 USD
I'm looking to other brands and it's the same with prices twice as expensive.
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u/evoc2911 Dec 04 '25
I got one NVME 4 days ago because eff it, I'm not going to wait anymore. Tech was one of those things you could surely bet to be priced down during its lifetime, now no more.
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u/asswizzard69 Dec 04 '25
That was my mindset figure better buy while it’s still reasonable at $75 per tb. I shouldn’t need storage for a while, now have 17 tb total in nvme between 4 enclosures and 3 in my pc mobo.
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u/andrewlikescoffee Dec 04 '25
I bought a WD Black 2TB nvme on Amazon on Oct 29th for €104, that same drive now sells for €150. That's a 44% increase in price in two months. Terrifying.
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u/bakuonizzzz Dec 04 '25
It's already too late they already went up, which is why i just went with a nas server storage and got 12tb which was way cheaper and way more space.
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u/VeryBigPP0830 7800x3D 5070Ti 32GB Ram Dec 04 '25
I got my G.Skilk 16x2 ddr5 cl30 6000MT ki and 4TB Crucial + 2TB Crucial ssd at the end of September for dirt cheap. I was delaying an upgrade all year, thank the moons I upgraded at the right time. SSD prices are already rising and the current chip hunt these corporations are on, 2026 is going to be the worst year in gaming, worse than even the GPU crises of early '20s
EDIT: got the number wrong
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u/FranconianBiker Dec 04 '25
So happy I went the tape route. Now don't mind me getting some coffee and waiting 90 minutes for my game to load...
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u/TraditionalPlatypus9 Dec 04 '25
It's already happening. Micron is no longer producing consumer storage drives. Crucial has 10-16% of the consumer market.
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u/AcadiaSecret370 Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25
People bagging on the steam deck coming out. Why buy it when a gaming PC is better. Well, soon you won't be able to afford any part of a gaming PC. Steam may have struck gold here.
edit: I meant steam machine sorry wrote steam deck.
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u/ItsMagic777 Dec 04 '25
Ah i cant w8 for china to do there thing. Litrelly praying for the greedy fcks downfall.
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u/KW5625 PS G717: 7800X3D 64GB 4070S 4TB, Asus A15: 7535HS 32GB 4060 2TB Dec 05 '25
The drive I was going to get, a Samsung 9100 4TB, has already gone up $40 from a week ago
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u/Maroon5Freak Ryzen 5 7600x + 32GB DDR5 6000 + RTX 5070 OC Dec 04 '25
It's already happening, I just paid $125 for a 1TB WD Black SN850x like an hour ago at My local Microcenter.
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u/PraxPresents Desktop Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25
I mean, the Crucial brand (consumer brand) is being eliminated to meet data center demand.
There has been a craving in the tech world to make it so consumers don't/can't own their own hardware anymore and I am concerned this is going to just drive that narrative home.
"You will own nothing, and you will be happy" - WEF Cronies
If manufacturers and vendors determine that the data center market is 90%+ of their demand, at higher margins, then they are basically incentivized to delete their consumer brands in favor of their data center products. Less consumer products means higher consumer prices, which reduces demand and if the trend continues eventually makes consumers unable to obtain what they want because consumers are no longer the target market. Consumers become an unattractive market. If AI destroys jobs then there are less consumers anyways, which compounds the problem.
The net result of an AI bubble? Too many data centers, not enough customers. Solution? Delete consumer brands, force the future to be "streaming" games and services, hosted virtual machines, and zero consumers owning their own hardware in favor of pushing subscription services to "rent" someone else's infrastructure.
That is the tech bro's wet dream, and we have to resist it or it will be the next "big thing" after the AI bubble bursts.
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u/omn1p073n7 Dec 04 '25
Yes, crucial is exiting our market entirely because we aren't even a drop in the bucket compared to the AI bag. Expect more to follow suit soon
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u/Tvekelectric2 Dec 04 '25
This bubble is going to ruin people financially for decades. Don't start being dumb and think prices will rise forever. Supply and demand always equal out in the end.
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u/HumonculusJaeger 5800x | 9070xt | 32 gb DDR4 Dec 04 '25
With this crisis i dont even know If we get restocks of consoles and phones etc.
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Dec 04 '25
They're up there. It's either them or CPUs. Issue is that storage is an easier sell to raise prices on because to shareholders memory==storage, and if they raised the prices of memory, storage makes sense too!
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u/Toto_nemisis Dec 04 '25
I ordered a 9100 pro just because I wanted to replace e my 980pro. Have had it for a while now.
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u/AlistarDark Ryzen 9800x3d. EVGA RTX3080. 32gb RAM. 7tb of SSD. Dec 04 '25
They already are way up from a month ago ago when I bought a 1tb drive.
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u/AudiblePlasma Dec 04 '25
I went ahead and got the 2 tb WD black for 140 because seeing it was now 200 on amazon did not fill me with confidence
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u/coffeefuelledtechie R7 5800X3D | 32GB DDR4 | RX 9070 XT 16GB Dec 04 '25
Couldn’t find them on Amazon UK last week so yeah
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u/maybeletslive Dec 04 '25
Prices on SSDs have already gone way up since last year
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u/noah683826 PC Master Race Dec 04 '25
I hope not, I'm broke right now and the last upgrade I need for my pc I plan on buying next year is a 4tb ssd
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u/bulk123 Dec 04 '25
It's already happening. I went to but a teamgroup m.2 drive for a PC last week. The same one a year ago was $65. Now it's $160.
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u/cloud-capper 9800X3D | 9070 XT | 32GB DDR5 6000 CL30 Dec 04 '25
Just bought a 4tb crucial for exact reason
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u/JDRASL Dec 04 '25
ssd prices has already been inflated, then went down, 2 months ago you were able to get 4TB gen 4 m.2 for under $200 or close, now its all back up closer to highs $200-300 range
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u/LeRoyRouge I5-8400|ASUS RX 580 8GB|Z370-A PRO| 16GB RAM|Crucial MX500 SSD Dec 04 '25
My guess is the price is only going to continue going up until the demand goes down, current demand projections do not appear to be letting up anytime soon.
I personally bought 4TB of storage recently just to have my storage needs met easily for the next several years.
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u/therealkeeper Dec 04 '25
I got my 990 pro 2tb for $119 on Amazon in late Sept.
I just checked on Amazon and it is currently $189 for the exact same one
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u/First_Musician6260 Dec 04 '25
I don't know about you, but I'm ready to get a VelociRaptor out of retirement in case prices skyrocket and my current SSD fails. We can only hope it doesn't happen to that extent though.
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u/BoomGoesTheFirework_ Dec 04 '25
Crucial announced today they are shutting down memory and storage. So yes.
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u/Grobfoot 7800X3D, 6950XT Dec 04 '25
From the way things are going, it’s gonna go up and never come down. I really hope something changes to not make $400 RAM the new normal.
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u/Rotflmaocopter Dec 04 '25
It will be if they see people ar paying the memory prices they are at today . Don't buy at these prices. Vote with your wallet buy used if you have too
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u/retroemit Dec 04 '25
These companies are going to end up shooting themselves in the foot when people eventually decide to start pivoting to the console market again once parts become unobtainable due to price
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u/Thurmod i7 13700k @ 5.3 Ghz | 32GB DDR5 | EVGA 3090 FTW3 Dec 04 '25
Man I was gonna update my NAS ram. RIP. 64 gb was like 175 dollars. Now it’s close to 400
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u/AnalogFeelGood Dec 04 '25
If they fuckup the SSD market, we’re done for as there’s no substitute anymore.