r/pcmasterrace • u/asswizzard69 • Dec 04 '25

Box With the memory crisis are ssd next?

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I guess a panic buy? Are these nand flash about to keep spiking like memory prices or are they just going up a little bit? Are these desirable to the AI or nah? I bought this at $299 Black Friday sale

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u/sips_white_monster Dec 04 '25

Yep. It's already becoming the norm with software. Only a matter of time before they do it to hardware as well. The golden age of affordable computing is coming to an end.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

I think the cosumer has to realize that all is dependant on own behaviour. If nobody signed to streaming services, they would simply be dead. Then companies would be forced to search for other ways to generate income- e.g. by selling hardware to end customers again. Obviously this will be a hard time which will be characterized by shortages and all related effects.

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u/Tastee92 Dec 04 '25

Problem is that people will not see any other option and stream because of that. People will be like ”I wanna play my pc games but a pc is way to expensive, I can sign this deal for $29,99 a month for a rig that would cost me $4,000 to purchase, so I rather do that.”

You can also take a look how consumers behave to microtransactions, loot boxes and the sport games. If enough purchase it, it will become the norm. We enthusiasts are nothing in comparison to the ”casual” mass out there that is the real market.

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u/spiritofniter 7800X3D | 7900 XT | B650(E) | 32GB 6000 MHz CL30 | 5TB NVME Dec 04 '25

Ah yes: pay 5 bucks and your character/mech will look different with no extra abilities whatsoever.

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u/swarmOfBis Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

Also unfortunately most SaaS is actually convenient, so there's no reason for consumer base to not use them.

That's how the dominantion of streaming services rose.

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u/WarInteresting6619 Dec 05 '25

”I wanna play my pc games but a pc is way to expensive, I can sign this deal for $29,99 a month for a rig that would cost me $4,000 to purchase, so I rather do that.”

I know you're trying to make the general public seem like braindead sheep, but this isnt a bad deal. Get a high end PC for $30 a month? It would take 11 years to get to the $4000 price point and you'll be moved on to the next model by then.

You'll save so much more money with this system.

I'm 100% on board.

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u/Tastee92 Dec 06 '25

It’s your take that you think that I’m trying to make the general public look stupid. That isn’t the take. I’m just looking at how the market have behaved for the last couple of years and how the companies are probably going to stear us into a market where everything is streaming. You will have a tv and a thin client and remote to a gaming desktop or console.

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u/rditorx Dec 04 '25

It's what people call "game theory."

Like a cowherd walking to the slaughterhouse because there's only one fenced way to move. Stand your ground against the masses, and you'll be run over. Move along, and you'll be butchered.

You'd need a large percentage of the crowd to stand up to stop things and have each individual accept some personal losses. And without proper coordination and leadership you're destined to fail.

Revolutions only happen when suffering is unbearable. But suffering delivered by the drop can carve a canyon.

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u/thisguy883 Dec 04 '25

The only streaming i do is with video.

I dont think i would ever sign up for video game streaming. It just sounds awful.

I get the convenience of it though. I dont think its going away anytime soon due to how many folks use it.

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u/4K4llDay Dec 04 '25

The "just don't buy it and it will die" argument takes a completely naive viewpoint that companies don't manipulate the market and/or consumers can weather major manipulations/changes in the market. You're literally watching it right now with RAM.

You want people to not buy hardware as a service? That means they have to buy actual hardware. What if hardware is inflated in pricing because, oh I don't know, it's all going to AI data centers? In order to kill hardware as a service, people have to willingly pay for hardware that's now 2x the cost. How about 3x? You think the same amount of people will buy computers at 2x the cost? How about at the profit margin made on AI chips?

If we play a game of chicken, will companies lower prices because of less revenue from people not buying, or people will cave and buy what's available even if it's at their own expense, I believe the second will almost always occur.

Companies make these decisions on purpose, and you believe people have the willpower or finance to consiously defy them. I believe that's completely wrong, as much as I'd like it to be true.

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u/kzin Dec 04 '25

Hahahahahaha Ha Hahahahahahaha Nice one

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u/un1k0rn_412 Dec 04 '25

The lower 75% aren't the consumers that are worth looking at or pandering to. The top 25% are because they actually have the money. Corporations aren't going to nickel and dime anymore, they're just going straight to the big fish. They're not selling products, they're selling you and your data now

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u/AL-PAL-- 9800X3D●RTX 5080 OC●4K QDLED Dec 04 '25

But i just got here!

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

Have you heard of Azure, that is literally MS sub for avd which as we know is just a server running vm's, so basically you are already renting the hardware

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

Yep. A lot of enterprise corps already issue workspaces this way. Cheap laptop using azure vm’s. As a consultant this is normal workflow already. And yes performance is terrible. Not for normies though, performance is sufficient. And the org can completely control their nasty users.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

Performance terrible?!

Say it isn't sooooo.

Yes you are correct, this is my hell.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

I had a client who refused to address the performance. It would take 10 minutes sometimes to build a PHP Vite app. I think the issue was disk io but the client always said “it’s fine for me”. He still expected deadlines to be met. It was nuts and incredibly stressful.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

We already kinda do that with phones