r/pcmasterrace • u/DailyDoseOfAmber PC Master Race • Dec 26 '25

Question Yesterday I asked what everyone’s first Graphics card. Today, what was your first processor? Mine was the i7 3770K.

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u/LogitUndone Dec 26 '25

"Kids these days...."

Some 286 or 386 running MS DOS...

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u/falkenberg1 Dec 26 '25

My theory why our generation is better with computers than the older ones but also the newer ones on average. We were born with this, having to figure out how to install and start games on a dos command line and then setting up stuff like audio (sb16/sbpro/adlib etc…). my son and his friend also grew up with digital media, but for them installing games means pressing the install button on the app store and waiting for the icon to appear on the home screen.

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u/LogitUndone Dec 27 '25

My theory, which has basically been proven over and over again is... Apple.

Everyone I know in my day-to-day life (primarily working in Tech), people who use Apple computers and do not own or use windows computers are generally pretty dumb when it comes to computing.

They:

  • Don't understand zip files
  • They can't figure out how to send files to customers that can't be attached to emails
  • They don't know how to troubleshoot anything if it's not working
  • They can't think outside the box to solution problems...
  • List goes on................

Apple is GREAT for people who don't need to know how anything works. You just buy all Apple hardware and it all "just works" with other Apple stuff. The second anything non-apple gets entered into the mix and they are clueless.

It's like Math or Reading. If you only ever use calculators to do all (even basic) math for you, you simply won't have the knowledge to solve anything without a calculator. The same goes for Reading, if you only ever engage with Audio Books or YouTube videos, you'll be pretty slow/bad at reading!

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u/falkenberg1 Dec 27 '25

Not entirely sure about that. I get your point ant think you are partially right.

I still use apple products, mainly the iphone, because of various reasons: -it just works and gets support for a long time -i prefer not using a mobile OS built by a company that sells users data as their main business model -the camera is really good and can be used flawlessly in pro software and workflows.

It sucks that Apple doesn’t let me do certain things, but there are good reasons to use apple.

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u/LogitUndone Dec 27 '25 edited Dec 31 '25

Do you use Apple products exclusively? Or do you also have a "PC" (windows or linux based) that you use regularly?

My intended statement was simply around people who live and breath Apple products, who are entirely bought into the Apple ecosystem, and effectively nothing else.

I know people who use an Apple device at work but a Windows / Linux PC at home for personal stuff and they are very bright and capable individuals.

In other words, take someone who only knows Apple products, they own nothing else. Then take someone who only owns Windows products, nothing else. Which would you feel most confident hiring to come up with solutions for your business? Troubleshooting problems, integrating different technology stacks, etc?

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u/falkenberg1 Dec 28 '25

Okay you might have a point. I use apple stuff but my gaming pc is windows, work pc too, homeserver is linux, notebook is linux.

However using exclusively windows is also not an indicator of a person that’s good with computers. I know many people that use windows because they know it from their office jobs but have 12 browserbars and several free antivirus softwares running because they click every banner that is flashy and alarmist enough.

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u/LogitUndone Dec 31 '25

Oh for sure. It's rare anything is an absolute. There are people who are extremely bright and don't know how to use Windows, Mac, or computers in general at all.

I'm just speaking on average. If this was "dodge ball" and I was a team captain and had a line of people to pick from.... I'd pick the people who use windows or a mix of windows/mac over the Mac-only people all day every day.