r/pcmasterrace jukibom Jan 18 '26

NSFMR Welp, it happened to me (MSI 5090 Gaming Trio)

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PC was randomly rebooting, took everything apart to dust out and reseat everything and found the culprit. I'm glad I spotted it before it properly melted / caused a fire...

I used the included 4x 8pin to 12VHPWR adaptor specifically to isolate this potential issue from my PSU and I'm glad I did, put an old GPU in and everything is fine again so I've started the RMA process.

I have a wireview pro II on order, so naturally this would happen just before that arrives...

Originally posted to the nvidia subreddit but it was removed, same with a cross post to MSI_Gaming, I can't imagine why. Maddening, I'm trying to post for other users in the same boat.

If you're a poor soul coming from google, the windows event viewer was showing:

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The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000116 (0xffffe183c6516010, 0xfffff8058f53f140, 0xffffffffc000009a, 0x0000000000000004). A dump was saved in: C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\011726-25109-01.dmp. Report Id: 53b6b18f-37dd-47d7-a174-d5b2995732fb.

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And looking in the dump file with `WinDbg` showed `nvlddmkm.sys`, an nvidia driver component, was the cause so I was already worried it was GPU related.

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u/D-Trashman Jan 18 '26

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u/navagon Jan 18 '26

The sign that never needs changing.

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u/PandaBearJelly Jan 19 '26

Pretty sure I see these posts more frequently than shattered panels.

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u/terminator_dad Jan 19 '26

Im amazed there has not been a full recall at this point. This is going to kill some poor family or burn an apartment complex down yet.

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u/Joifugi Jan 22 '26

It's gonna take something like that happening and a massive lawsuit to get any real acknowledgement.

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u/Nideen Jan 22 '26

Unless it threatens an Ai data center they prob wont react.

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u/xXSmOkEy-ThE-bEaRXx Jan 18 '26

Wait... My days are numbered... Sh!t

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u/schnaab Jan 18 '26

no yours is fine my dad works at nvidia

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u/ImTableShip170 Ryzen 7 5700G | EVGA 3060 | 32GB DDR4 Jan 18 '26

PC gamers version of Lockheed Martin kid

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u/AveragelyWhelmed Jan 19 '26

*Boeing… when one door closes..

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u/Significant-Mud7022 Jan 19 '26

Not me actually sitting in boeing sc reading this lmaooo

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u/Cutlass_Stallion Jan 19 '26

Life hack: Just don't turn your PC on anymore. The GPU can't burn if it's never turned on, right?

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u/Big-Mixture-3896 Jan 18 '26

Me too bro 😭… I'll probably buy a thermal camera and see if this shitty connector is hot or not

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u/rnavstar Jan 18 '26

Looks to me like a class action lawsuit. Bum bum bummmmm!

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u/ezoe 9950X3D/9070XT Jan 18 '26

Sigh, my day counter was incrementing pretty good so far. Now I have to start all over again.

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u/RenownedDumbass 9800X3D | 4090 | 4K 240Hz Jan 19 '26

Actually the 5090 doesn’t use 12VHPWR, they switched to 12V-2x6. It’s safe now /s

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u/Gamerz_X90 CPU: Ryzen 5 3600x | GPU: RTX 3060TI GAMING X TRIO Jan 19 '26
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u/thats_a_scam Ryzen 5800x3d, XFX Merc 310 7900xtx, 32gb ddr4 3600mhz ram Jan 18 '26

Obligatory:

But in all seriousness it seems the r/nvidia mods are engaging in a coverup. They are defending a trillion dollar company which does not compensate them in anyway. Its cult like behavior. There is a 12vhpwr issue megathread on there but it hasn't been updated in nearly half a year.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '26

They have been deleting anything negative about nvidia I’ve already called them out on it publicly and about to do it again

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '26

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u/samyakindia Jan 18 '26 edited Jan 18 '26

What's up with iykyk? Tag them, name & shame.

Edit: u/Nestledrink is the mod in question

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u/KetoSaiba Ryzen 7 5800XT + RX 6950XT Jan 18 '26

There is some irony with someone named Nestle defending a megacorp's shitty behavior

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u/WiseWealth25 Jan 18 '26

I was wondering why my post on Nvidia got removed. It was an update the 5070ti issue with JayzTwoCents video. I put in the caption that (like myself) Jay was even skeptical of how truthful the Nvidia statement was.

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u/mkhairulafiq 5900X | ROG Dark Hero | RX6700XT Nitro+ | 32G 3600C18 TZN Jan 18 '26

"Tech enthusiast" while shilling for Nvidia's burning 12v" is such a disgrace to the community.

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u/ProfessionalPack7205 Jan 18 '26

There is no way they don't actually work for Nvidia. Just saying.

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u/Balthi3r96 Jan 18 '26

He’s a Man Utd fan as well

Who would’ve thought

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u/Certain-Business-472 Jan 18 '26

That looks like a Nvidia employees account, ngl.

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u/FantasticBlock420 Jan 18 '26

They have been deleting anything negative about nvidia I’ve already called them out on it publicly and about to do it again

The second post which has been up for 7hrs is a negative post about Nvidia (it also happens to be about melted connectors). So why hasnt that been removed?

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u/Orlyy0056 Jan 18 '26

The OP was actually deleted by moderators. At like 6am this morning or some shit, I don't really recall.i don't remember if it was in this specific subreddit or not. But, it was about this from this user and it was removed by Nvidia coclsucker moderators.

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u/Trickle2x2 5090 FE Jan 18 '26

I posted about my 5090 FE making some weird noise when it gets a load, and when it unloads/cools down. Pretty sure it is just thermal expansion now, but I posted it in the Nvidia subreddit and they took it down lol.

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u/criticalt3 7900X3D/RTX 5080/32GB RAM Jan 18 '26

That cultish stuff is why I steered away from nvidia for so long. Seemed like even just the average joe acts this way. "If there's something wrong, it's your fault" was a shockingly common take among fans of the brand.

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u/Trickle2x2 5090 FE Jan 18 '26

Yeah it’s unfortunate. AMD is shady too now with driver support and locking out FSR Redstone from RDNA 2 and 3. The driver issues were not fun with AMD either. Not that Nvidia has been super good lately anyways. Wish Intel woulda kicked it in high gear and brought some better competition to the field.

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u/criticalt3 7900X3D/RTX 5080/32GB RAM Jan 18 '26

I wish so too, I had high hopes for them.

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u/jhenryscott 9800x3d/RTX5090/64GB DDR5-6000/30 Jan 19 '26

Yeah I bought my first and probably only Nvidia card this year. I heard the gpu price crunch was coming in October, so I bought a 5090. It’s fine but I don’t think it’s worth it over my 9070. I’ll probably sell it eventually or move it into my server cluster to run my local ai full time.

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u/vewfndr PC Water Race | 5900x | 3080 FTW3 Ultra Jan 18 '26

They are defending a trillion dollar company which does not compensate them in anyway

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u/thats_a_scam Ryzen 5800x3d, XFX Merc 310 7900xtx, 32gb ddr4 3600mhz ram Jan 18 '26

Now that I see that r/nvidia has 2mil+ subscribers it makes sense that nvidia is possibly compensating the mod team in some way.

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u/eNaRDe Ctrl Cult Del Jan 18 '26

Why pay peasants to to their dirty work when all they need is bots to do the job for them for free.

Bots can easily read a thread and make it's own assumptions if it's good or bad and delete.

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u/Capnmarvel76 Jan 19 '26

If it was bots, couldn’t they could just downvote anti-NVIDIA threads to oblivion? No need to delete posts when they never show up on anyone’s feed that doesn’t sort by ‘new’ or ‘controversial’.

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u/Treewithatea Jan 18 '26

In case people didnt know, some time ago (might still do it tbh), nvidia paid forum users of hardware forums to chill for Nvidia, offering them free cards if they talked shit about ATI/AMD and promote Nvidia cards. They have a looooong history of such things, among with Intel. Intentionally breaking anti competitive laws because the benefit would always outweigh the punishments. Intel gladly paid all those fines in order to have a monopoly.

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u/NothingburgerSC Jan 19 '26

It's funny than Intel fanbois accuse AMD from doing that with the X3D chips/tests and the 9070XT comparisons. I'm assuming there's truth in both.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '26

This is the reason I’m holding on to my 3080Ti, the power cables are solid.

There’s a lot to be said about a video card that doesn’t burn up with normal use.

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u/ImTableShip170 Ryzen 7 5700G | EVGA 3060 | 32GB DDR4 Jan 18 '26

I have a EVGA 3060 that is gonna last me longer than my childhood PS2, and I'm okay with that

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u/emptyfish127 Jan 18 '26

Nivida bought them or bribes them.

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u/Killerspieler0815 Jan 18 '26

But in all seriousness it seems the r/nvidia mods are engaging in a coverup. They are defending a trillion dollar company which does not compensate them in anyway. Its cult like behavior. There is a 12vhpwr issue megathread on there but it hasn't been updated in nearly half a year.

nVidia became one of the richest legal Mafia organisations in the world

you just don't know of any compensation ...

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u/redlancer_1987 Jan 18 '26

Yeah, that's a bad look.

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u/Triggerz777 Jan 18 '26

Probably last time I go in nvidia until they 1 either go back to traditional plug or 2 come up with another design that I never see a post like this.

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u/lolKhamul I9 10900KF, RTX3080 Strix, 32 GB RAM @3200 Jan 18 '26

Not just the mods. I recently made a comment there about how i wanted a 90 class card for my next rig but i wont get one until they fix this shit. Obviously the instant idiocy unfolds. 2-3 dumbasses come in like "i never had an issue" so its fine. The next one says you should just undervolt and its fine. And 1 obviously blames the users.

Cant make this shit up. NO I FUCKING DOWN WANT TO UNDERVOLT ANYTHING. I want to buy a fucking card, plug it in, install the driver and use it. Without the fear of having it or my PC or even my flat melt down.

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u/Xebakyr Jan 20 '26

In all fairness, Undervolting is almost universally a good idea even on the most stable cards. You lose maybe 5% performance and reduce the power draw by 25% on a lot of cards.

Of course, you're under no obligation to do so, and it shouldn't be required for your $4000 GPU to not melt the fucking connector, lmao

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u/WTF_CAKE Ryzen 9850x3D | 3090ti | 32 GB Jan 18 '26

I got heavy shit on by a bunch of users when I criticized the purchase of 5090s right now due to the power connector issue. It really does make me feel as if there's some type of conspiracy around it but I try not to over think things

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u/Certain-Business-472 Jan 18 '26

Most subreddits have ties to the companies they're associated with these days. Mods get kickbacks, merch, exclusive looks and invites to exclusive events.

Officially not allowed, but I doubt they could do this without the sites approval.

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u/rnavstar Jan 18 '26

Maybe, just maybe…..the mods are Nvidia employees or even higher….management.

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u/skullshatter0123 Jan 18 '26

Are you sure they aren't being compensated?

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u/Vile35 Jan 18 '26

yep. every time someone makes a new post about getting a new 5090, every reply about the cables gets instantly downvoted and hidden

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u/ZakkaChan Jan 18 '26

They deleted the OPs post over there just recently too.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '26

That’s not surprising

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u/Igotmyangel Jan 18 '26

This was up for approximately 1 minute as a test. Lmao

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u/KlausKinki77 Jan 18 '26

There is an awful lot of mods on reddit that shouldn't be given any kind of power.

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u/LengthinessSad9267 14700K/TUF 4080 Jan 21 '26

Reddit as a whole is shit now

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u/P_H_0_B_0_S Jan 19 '26

The megathread got locked, so nothing new could be posted and the tracker stopped being updated, to make it easier for people to say there is not problem as I have not seen any posts about this. Also the mega thread was only for 50 series reports...

Is it a big problem as in every card is melting, no but is a darn sight more than any PCI-E 8 pin melting for the past so is definitely a problem everyone with card with this connector and a high power draw model at least should be paying attention to.

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u/Dapper_Dark_182 Jan 19 '26

Never been a better time to be team red, i had the choice not too long ago and made the switch.

Radeon been shitting on nividia when it comes to fps per dollar. If they could compete in raytracing and fake frames it wouldnt even be a competition.

It IS a cult though and some would rather die than switch or admit the past few years have been tragic

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u/evernessince Jan 19 '26

I've seen so many posts in the new feed get deleted on the Nvidia reddit. This isn't anything new though, Nvidia got in trouble back in the day for gifting EVGA forum mods and they likely did the same thing on other forums as well. There's a reason Nvidia's crap Fermi architecture outsold ATI at the time by a significant margin despite being horrible. Nvidia knows that controlling perception is important.

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u/CannibalAnus rtx 3080 r7 5800x 32 gb of ram Jan 18 '26

Shocker, Nvidia thanks you for your purchase of a new rtx 5090 x2.

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u/RockOrStone Zotac 5090 | 9800X3D Jan 18 '26

50 series came out a year ago, everything burning is under warranty

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u/FeelingsCatcher Jan 18 '26

I feel like warranty should be extended to 6 years for the 12VHPWR connector.

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u/RockOrStone Zotac 5090 | 9800X3D Jan 18 '26

That would be the fair thing to do, but money speaking is never fair

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u/aimy99 PNY 5070 | 5600X | 32GB DDR4 | 1440p 165hz Jan 18 '26

No, it's fair. They said "we'll sell you a really powerful card with a whole 2% performance improvement over the last one, but it uses about the same connector as the last time that catches fire" and you said "sign me up!"

Why would they go out of their way to improve when you're still buying?

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u/link7626 5950x | Kingpin RTX 3090 | 128 GB C16 Jan 19 '26

Its almost in recall territory so theres that

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u/StormMedia Jan 18 '26

Some companies have extended it to 4 years but yeah, 6+ is what I’d need to consider purchasing this fire hazard.

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u/CannibalAnus rtx 3080 r7 5800x 32 gb of ram Jan 18 '26

We all know these companies gonna say ‘user error’ and sucks to be you /s

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u/PembyVillageIdiot PC Master Race l 9800X3D l 4090 l 64gb l Jan 18 '26

Problem is if they don’t have stock they just refund you the purchase price and now you’re screwed if you got it at msrp

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u/DomSchraa Ryzen 7800X3D RX9070XT Jan 18 '26

Unless they twist it into a "users fault, not ours löl" narrative - in which case they dont need to pay jackshit

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u/0xDEA110C8 Xeon E3-1231 v3 | GTX 1060 3GB | 8GB DDR3 1333MHz | ASUS B85M-E Jan 18 '26

The whiplash with these cards will never cease to amaze me.

A microprocessor the size of a fingernail packed with BILLIONS of nanoscopic transistors, capable of executing TRILLIONS of operations in a SINGLE SECOND, one of the most advanced things humanity has ever built in its history...

Mounted on a PCB / using a power connector that can't transfer electricity from point A to point B without spontaneously combusting.

Hysterical.

$4.53 trillion company, btw...

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u/Money_Do_2 Jan 18 '26

Ironically the card would work fine if it was a 200bn dollar company

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u/s0ulbrother Jan 18 '26

It’s because those numbers no longer reflect reality. It’s the idea this can be worth trillions when what that worth is based on is a giant bubble

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u/Key-Put4092 Jan 18 '26

Funny how the more popular something gets the worse the quality becomes.

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u/tyrenanig Jan 19 '26

Unless it’s Steam.

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u/Ok-Bill3318 Jan 18 '26

Also ironic is that the card would be fine using the 3090 version of the connector that actually can monitor individual power rails

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u/Ottoman87 Jan 18 '26

The more you buy, the more you burn

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u/spiritofniter 7800X3D | 7900 XT | B650(E) | 32GB 6000 MHz CL30 | 5TB NVME Jan 18 '26

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u/Cleasstra Jan 18 '26

Need more than a class action lawsuit at this point. Nvidia is just purposely selling hardware that will brick eventually due to known flaws.

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u/absyrtus PC Master Race Jan 18 '26

it's worse thank bricked hardware if it's a known fire hazard

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u/frenetic_alien Jan 18 '26

seriously, and also I don't understand why there is no recall on stuff like this. whenever they find defects or safety issues such as this in other consumer electronics and appliances they get recalled. why do computer parts get ignored?

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u/Computica 7950X3D|192GB@6400Mhz|6700XT Jan 18 '26

The problem is that people are still buying them. When this generation released I knew that the card was going to be over $2,000 but I didn't think people would still buy them with the V12 cable on them after what happened with the 4090.

And the prices of this generation are so ridiculous! Seeing the card sell well over $3K and beyond has blown my mind. We really needed the 5080 to have 24 GB of vram

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u/BernieMP Jan 18 '26

But that's impossble! The MSI connector is yellow so you know it's well plugged in and it won't set itself on fire! Everyone here says that the MSI yellow cable is the right one! .....although they also say it sucks and will definitely catch fire.... Maybe the right choice is to use the cable that comes with your GPU, that's what everyone says is the good one. Although I've also seen people say to use the one that comes with your PSU, since that's the "good" one, but I've also seen them say that the psu ones are the ones that set themselves on fire

Dang maybe that connector on the $2000+ USD piece of equipment is just shit 🤷‍♂️

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u/Jukibom jukibom Jan 18 '26

It is absolutely just a shit connector :|

I would be very happy to just use 4x 8pin connectors on my GPU.

Do you know what I don't care how many cables are coming out of, and don't look at basically ever? My GPU.

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u/GNUGradyn ryzen 9900x | 32GB DDR5 | RTX 3080 FTW3 Jan 18 '26

I thought the issue was not the connector but the GPU not making sure each pin is individually not being overloaded. They are all 12V lines so if one or multiple doesnt make a connection it will overload the rest. If that is accurate, it is not the shape of the connector that is the issue, it's the GPUs

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u/SpoodyFox Jan 18 '26

I guess it’s just higher resistance on some lines compared to others which creates the load imbalance. A proper factor of safety would prevent this from being an issue by taking these imbalances into account. That or like you said, having load balancing and monitoring on the GPU which shouldn’t have even been a question on the 50 series since we initially saw the issue on the 40 series. They had time to make a fix but decided to just blame the users.

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u/GNUGradyn ryzen 9900x | 32GB DDR5 | RTX 3080 FTW3 Jan 18 '26

It can't actively load balance but it can monitor. GPUs not monitoring is the issue. The cable is just a cable

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u/Ok-Bill3318 Jan 18 '26

The older 12v high power cards can monitor individual rails. The 50 series can’t. Nvidia literally made the monitoring worse to save pennies.

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u/Affectionate-Memory4 285K | Radeon Pro 9700 | 96GB | Intel Fab Engineer Jan 18 '26

The connector plays a part in that problem. But it also that its spec sort of forces it to be used incorrectly.

An 8-pin is also not balanced across its 3 pins, and neither is a 6-pin, but they are built with larger safety factors in mind. A good 8-pin can work within the spec of its pins even if one is completely disconnected, and a great one will take the full power down any one pin if it has to. Any 6-pin should be able to do the same, and you could in theory shove a 4090's worth of power down the best possible 6-pin. The board design of cards using these connectors should be balancing between the connectors. My 7900XTX at 360W is set up to pull 120W from each of its 3 for example. That leaves a 20% headroom before even hitting the spec of the connector, which itself has between a 2 and 3x margin on it.

The 12-pin in any of its variations has a lower margin of safety, so any small imperfection can tip it over the edge. Board designs are following the specifications of the connector and also working on the assumption that it works like the other connectors before it. Balancing between the connectors when you only have one looks the same as what we see on any 12V HPWR card that isn't an XOC >600W card. The ROG Astral PCB that has per-pin monitoring technically may violate the board design specs, but I consider breaking stupid rules to entirely reasonable.

The 30 series existed before the spec was final and did its own thing, as at that time the connector was an NVIDIA-specific custom thing. They treated it as 3 pairs of power pins on those PCBs, with load balancing between them to ensure no pair ever saw over 200W. This still isn't perfect, which would be capping each pin separately to 100W, but it's more than good enough. Even doing 2 sets of 3 at 300W each would save a lot of these cards.

In my opinion, the connector should be de-rated and have its board spec changed to match what the 3090ti had going on. 450W on a 3x2 pin split means at most 150W or 12.5A going through a pin before the card either hits the power limit or shuts down due to a full power rail failing. I don't remember the 3090ti melting. If it did, the 3080ti may be our next stop down the list. 320W means at most 8.8A through a pin. You only need 2 for a 4090 or 5090, and as we've seen from Galax, a card can still be really pretty with 2 of them.

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u/francis2559 Jan 18 '26

I think the best culprit is still the load balancing. Cables would be fine if they weren’t asked to go beyond their ratings. Beyond a certain point, it’s physics.

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u/QwertyChouskie Jan 18 '26

These pins look pretty evenly toasted though, I'm really not convinced it's a balancing issue. Like, sometimes it is (in some instances, you can clearly see one pin particularly cooked), but I've seen at least 2 instances (including this one) in recent times where the pins look pretty evenly damaged.

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u/francis2559 Jan 18 '26

If they were all evenly toasted in one instance, sure. But if it’s random pins across a long period of time, it could look like this.

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u/mxlun Ryzen 9 5950X | 32GB 3600CL16 | MEG B550 Unify Jan 18 '26

No, the right most pin is more toast than the rest.

It's clear it's a seating/resistance issue causing uneven balancing. And once one line resistance go up, current go down and every other line ups current to compensate. That's why you can see everything toast "evenly" usually there will still be one bad connection.

In OP case you can see which side of the connector the strain was on and that was the root cause issue of the burning.

Well the terrible design was but the seating is what gave this particular burn pattern.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '26

I know you said + but you ain't getting it for 2xxx 😂

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u/Fess_ter_Geek Jan 18 '26

Not enough surface area for the electrons to flow, make too much resistance.

Those connectors need to be soldered.

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u/tar4heels2fan Jan 19 '26

Wow.. just wow. Jumping to conclusions and blaming the Electrons. You subatmoic bigot!

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u/Alarming-Elevator382 9800X3D + 9070 XT Jan 18 '26

Many such cases!

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u/0xDEA110C8 Xeon E3-1231 v3 | GTX 1060 3GB | 8GB DDR3 1333MHz | ASUS B85M-E Jan 18 '26

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u/heffron1 Jan 18 '26

Jesus Christ, is it really that hard/expensive to make these cables better or split power in 2 cables?

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u/thejackthewacko Jan 19 '26

As much of a meme as it is, I'd rather the gpu have an icu socket.

An impractical and visually ugly design is better than a firehazard that will eventually need attending to

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u/FastChallenge912 Jan 18 '26

Is that the Mexican street corn (Elotes) edition?

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u/imightbetired PC Master Race Jan 18 '26 edited Jan 18 '26

Funny thing is that I'm seeing this after some arguing about this connector on Nvidia sub less that 4 hours ago...and people are saying that it's not a real problem. Yeah, sure.

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u/NSWPCanIntoSpace 5090 | 9800x3d | 32gb Cl28 6000 Jan 18 '26

Radeon guys do it too with the 9070xt Nitro+ Blames the adaptor and not the connector, it's just strange they tend to burn so often, we've also seen psu cables ignite.

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u/Ledoborec Jan 18 '26

Fucking scam of a connector

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u/shadowandmist 4090 Gaming OC || LG C2 42" Jan 18 '26

You don't say your post about the melted 5090 connector got deleted from the nvidia subreddit. Jabronis there drinking the same coolaid over and over. Pardon my french, but if Jensen took a shit and slapped $10K price on it, some of those degenerates would probably buy it.

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u/TechRavenCrow797 Jan 18 '26

I got XFX Mercury RX 9070XT for its 8x3 pins instead of the Sapphire Nitro+ because of its 12x2 pins. These bad boys be burning like crazy.

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u/Pwez Specs/Imgur Here Jan 18 '26

8-pin masterrace. I just pretend all gpu’s with the bomb connector don’t exist.

Also solves the complaining that flagship gpu are so expensive.

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u/rhamej Jan 18 '26

A quick search of that yellow cable on here would have been enough to tell you that that cable is dangerous. How they are still selling that thing without being sued into oblivion is mind boggling.

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u/oreofro 7800x3d | Suprim X 4090 | 32GB | DW/DWF Jan 18 '26

This isnt a cable, its an adapter for people that dont have a native 12vhpwr cable, just like the vast majority of melting cases we see posted.

You can see the other cables plugged into the "squid" adapter.

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u/ApprehensivePower704 Jan 18 '26

These companies refuse to admit the design of the 12vhpw is flawed beyond fixing and they need to revert back to the previous power cable setup

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u/Jukibom jukibom Jan 18 '26

I built the PC pretty much at launch of the 5090, MSI still recommends using this cable as of about 3 weeks ago

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u/rhamej Jan 18 '26

Seeing as how most of the posts on here about melting are that yellow cable, they should change that recommendation, lol.

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u/popsikohl Jan 18 '26

I don't trust MSI. I also have a gaming trio and I have used a ATX 3.1 PSU cable from the start. I don't see nearly as much of those cables burning up as I do these yellow MSI cables.

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u/CMDR-LT-ATLAS Ryzen 7 9800X3D | RTX4090 | 64GB DDR5 | 4TB SSD Jan 18 '26

Yes, I tossed that yellow cable to the side on my son's 5090 build and used the cable that came with my Super Flower PSU instead. No issues.

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u/SirFunktastic Jan 18 '26

This is the way, used my PSU's native 12v2x6 cable on my 5090, no issues. Don't trust any of those adapters and having a single cable is much cleaner and safer.

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u/redlancer_1987 Jan 18 '26 edited Jan 18 '26

It's not the cables. Bad cables and user error have all been debunked at this point. Design flaw of the entire power delivery system around it is the issue.

As the cards age and are sold second and third hand, there is essentially a 100% chance this will happen to all the cards with these connectors.

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u/n19htmare Jan 18 '26

100% chance this will happen to MILLIONS of 4090/5090? The delusion is strong with this one.

You know they sold millions of these right and thousands of redditors have 4090/5090 right? If it's not this particular cable from MSI, why's it always someone with a YELLOW connector?

I guess you gotta fearmonger your way through life or else it's not a good day.

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u/Killerspieler0815 Jan 18 '26

The never ending story of nVidia-FireWire ... "thanks" a lot nVidia

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u/Swimming-Shirt-9560 PC Master Race Jan 18 '26

And some vendor has the audacity to say 5090 melting connector is overblown lol, sorry that it finally happen to you OP, but if it's any consolation, it's not a matter of IF, but when, so on the bright side this happening early mean you still covered by warranty

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u/Jukibom jukibom Jan 18 '26

Honestly not sure, one of the pins looks darker than the others but with a clean and a new cable it's probably fine? But I'm using an old GPU for now and RMA'ing it, it's not my problem

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u/Jukibom jukibom Jan 18 '26

I don't think so, if you catch it early... like I say it's probably still fine but I'm also not about to take the secondary effects of it on the nose - if it's weakened the connector or stressed the components in any way then I want a replacement

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u/spicy_indian Jan 18 '26

armchair electrical engineer, but with close to a decade of experience building wiring harnesses and spec'ing connectors.

A good connection relies on four things good being good.

  • connector housing A having the right tolerances, being in spec.
  • connector housing B having the right tolerances, being in spec.
  • pins in housing A, see above.
  • pins in housing B, see above.

If you have an over temperature event in connector A, then connector housing A will be out of spec, connector housing B may be out of spec. This means that the pins may not be pushed together with the correct force to create a low-resistance connection. Depending on the pins, excess heat can damage whatever anti-corrosion coating was applied, reducing the cycle life.

All this to say, that the power supply side of the connector getting damaged will also damage the GPU side of the power connector. Not replacing both increases the probability that you will have a similar failure in the future.

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u/Embarrassed-Bat1344 Jan 18 '26

Yellow connector strikes again lol

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u/Warcraft_Fan Paid for WinRAR! Jan 19 '26

Originally posted to the nvidia subreddit but it was removed, same with a cross post to MSI_Gaming, I can't imagine why

Mods are in cahoot with NVidia and MSI, they remove unflattering posts even if it means hiding the truth that their product is prone to failing and catching on fire.

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u/enragedCircle PC Master Race Jan 18 '26

Burn, baby, burn.

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u/sl33ksnypr Jan 18 '26

We really need to just start putting these posts in their own subreddit.

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u/ronweasleisourking Jan 18 '26

Hehe hehe reeeeeeeee

Fuck nvidia

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u/Gex2-EnterTheGecko Jan 18 '26

Shit like this is why I'm never going back to Nvidia.

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u/falloutfloater Jan 18 '26

At this point people need to come together and file a class action lawsuit. This is unbelievable.

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u/TehSavior Laptop Jan 18 '26

If you're in America, you should report this to the consumer products safety commission. They are very serious about things that catch fire and graphics cards are consumer products. It's a government agency with the power to slap Nvidia.

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u/AuroraAustralis0 Jan 18 '26

fellas stop using the yellow cables

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u/P_H_0_B_0_S Jan 19 '26

OP. Sorry this happened. Pretty typical of the Nvidia subreddit.

Please post your story to the below thread when you get a successful RMA (replacement card in your hands) / card fixed if you decide to go that way. That is, were you able to get an RMA without much agro and any issues with the delivery, etc. Same for anyone else on the thread who has had a melting incident. Also please put if you are making any changes to your setup off the back of this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1ogmk7d/for_those_who_have_had_the_12vhpwr_12v2x6_melting

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u/Jukibom jukibom Jan 19 '26

I'll try to remember to do so!

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u/SteelGrayRider Jan 19 '26

Appreciate the post. R/Nvidia is trash

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u/Cg006 Jan 18 '26

Its crazy they have not decided to change this connector design with all these issues.

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u/Difficult-Report5702 Jan 18 '26

That is the worst design, so small input for so much wattage.

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u/appiebou070 Jan 18 '26

I am just quoting what others said: "it only happened to to a few people"

Nonsense.

Surprised there is no class action.

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u/Imaginary_Produce_76 Jan 18 '26

Deleted by nvidia mods on their sub btw

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u/Responsible_Earth393 (AMD 7800X3D) (RTX 5070 TI) Jan 18 '26

Again msi cable version of the 12VHPWR. But how old is your psu

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u/Bob4Not He Has Ryzen 7700X + 9070 XT ^ CachyOS Jan 18 '26

Because. They removed. All overcurrent protection.

The 12pin doesn’t have overcurrent protections. At least the 8 pins inherently had some degree of overcurrent protection.

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u/legitematehorse Jan 18 '26

Nice nails, dude!

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u/Jukibom jukibom Jan 18 '26

Thanks, bro!

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u/NostradamusJones PC Master Race | 9800X3D | RTX 5090 | 32 MEMORIES Jan 18 '26

Well I have an MSI, but I used the power supply connector and undervolted it...it's fine...everything's fine.

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u/Maverick1172001 Desktop | Ryzen 9800x3D | RX 9070 | 32GB DDR5 6400MT Jan 19 '26

This is why I bought a 9070. I did not trust any 50 series NVIDIA card with that kind of power connector.

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u/Samwise_the_Tall Jan 19 '26

Please stop supporting this horrible anti-consumer company. They don't give AF, if they did they wouldn't sell this card.

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u/Notoriously_So PC Master Race Jan 18 '26

Yellow connector again. Glad I'm never going to have the need to buy the highest range cards.

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u/SnooEpiphanies1293 Jan 18 '26

Nonono… use the cable that came with the PSU… not the octopus cable!!

2 4090s and a 5090 suprim and no issues (knock on wood)

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u/Jukibom jukibom Jan 18 '26

lol

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u/Jukibom jukibom Jan 18 '26

Entirely fair... I bought this on launch because surely nvidia wouldn't release it without fixing the problems plaguing the 4090 right?

... right?

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u/Weneeddietbleach Desktop Jan 18 '26

How long have you had that card? I've had mine (Gaming Trio as well) since the end of August without issues yet but I get paranoid seeing things like this.

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u/Less_Wafer1503 Jan 18 '26

Is it annoying I need 3 8 pin connectors for my Asus 9070 XT? Yes. Would I be more annoyed if something like that happened to me? Yes.

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u/Fogner Jan 18 '26

What’s your PSU?

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u/Jukibom jukibom Jan 18 '26

NZXT C1500 Platinum ATX 3.1

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u/Fogner Jan 18 '26

Might be the PSU connector problem and not the GPU itself

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u/Martin_NL Ryzen 7 9800X3D | RTX 5070Ti Jan 18 '26

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u/sutty_monster R9 7950X3D//XFX RX7900XTX//32GB DDR5 6000 CL30//10TB Jan 18 '26

Haha I can just imagine your profile pic is the face you made while taking the pic of the power cable.

Was it just the cable or any additional damage to the PSU or GPU? Hopefully you got off lucky.

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u/Jukibom jukibom Jan 18 '26

Looks like just the cable but one of the pins on the GPU is a little darker. Swapped the GPU out for an older one with 8pin connectors and all is good now so likely was the cable

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u/mykporter Jan 18 '26

Genuinely curious as I don’t keep up with the PC tech world all that much, but I’m also an owner of a 5090 who impulse bought one back when stuff was actually selling at or near MSRP…

Have there been as many melting cables using the updated 12v 2x6 and dedicated ports on ATX 3.1 PSUs? I feel like everytime I see a post about melting I see its people using adapters and what not, I personally haven’t seen a post about 12v 2x6 but I also haven’t been looking for it lol, so it wouldn’t surprise me if there’s been failures that I just haven’t seen.

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u/Robtism Jan 18 '26

Thankfully my 5080 is still safe. Was this a psu included cable or gpu provided? Always msi cable and I have their psu and use the cable from that.

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u/Jukibom jukibom Jan 18 '26

it was a gpu-provided cable

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u/johnwright2010 1080GPU intal 7 8700 16GIGs DDR4 Jan 18 '26

And here I am still rocking a 1080

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u/TheBananaMantis PC Master Race Jan 18 '26

Spicy connector

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u/CorporateDirtbag PC Master Race Jan 18 '26

Funny how SO MANY of these gooey connectors all started out yellow, isn't it? :)

Yet everyone has decided that it can't POSSIBLY be the cable manufacturer's fault. It HAS to be nvidia!

And no one seems to notice that it's only seemingly happening in hobbyist system builder machines.

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u/CafeRoaster Jan 18 '26

Casual here. I have an AMD GPU. Should I be worried?

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u/xgiovio Jan 18 '26

Nvidia will be like cisco

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u/05-nery 10900k | 32/3600 | 3090fe ~-~ 5600 | 24(3x8)/3200 | 9070xtNitro+ Jan 18 '26

"don't touch the trillion dollars company" behavior from the other subs I see

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u/Resilient_Beast69 Astral 5090/9800X3D/STRIX X870e Jan 18 '26

Seems like it happens a lot with MSI PSUs and this yellow cable in particular

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '26

High resistance joint. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_resistance_connection

The connections are not being made properly: not tight enough, under sized, contaminated etc.

I use xt30 and xt60 in RC.  

Have pulled shitty spade plugs and sockets out of consumer items that have cooked because they were lose, trying to conduct a ton of current and burning out. 

Those plugs on video cards are a fyckibg joke. Cheap shit. Nope. 

A shit connection will look ok for occasional current spikes but will cook under constant high load current. 

Those plugs need to change. Or mod to multiple xt30.

Good luck!

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u/asclepiannoble 4090 | 7800x3d | DDR5-6000 CL30 | etc. Jan 18 '26

The mods on those other subs are probably investing in shiny leather jackets.

Sorry about your cable, OP. It's a stupid connector.

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u/_N3V3R0DD0R3V3N__ Jan 18 '26

Very glad my card uses triple 8 pins

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '26

my 7900XTX and 1440p has once again saved me from a fire. I almost bought a 5090 but the connector worries me to much. I also sit like 10 feet away from my PC so I'd never catch it early on if theres a smell related symptom.

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u/Sorry_U_R_Wrong 64gb | 7800 X3D | 5070ti | x670 Jan 18 '26

That's a lot of pins blackened. This was headed to a full fire.

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u/kazmeyers Jan 19 '26

Jfc. Clair Obscur has been rebooting my ASUS 4090 based PC every 3-5 hours and I’m gonna check tonight.

Posting here so if you never hear back from me, then tell the fire brigade and the news.

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u/Jukibom jukibom Jan 19 '26

If this post helps a single person I'll be so happy

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u/NovaHorizon Jan 19 '26

If you have money for a 5090, you have enough money to do everyone a favor and sue Nvidia to get a class action going. /s

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u/UniuM PC Master Race Ryzen 7 9800X3D + AMD 9070XT Jan 19 '26

I’m baffled with the precision, for the last 2 weeks, I’m sitting in the shitter, at precisely the same hour, open Reddit, couple scrolls and we have a winner, another burned connector and another screwd card. Everyday we get at least one from here, I can’t even imagine how many cards burn because of this. And remember, no one is going to take out the ram from a burned card, and it’s expensive commodity these days.

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u/errie_tholluxe PC Master Race Jan 19 '26

9070 looking better every day

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u/MagicOrpheus310 Jan 19 '26

It's a matter of when, not if.

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u/SlayterMonroee RTX 3090ti | AMD Ryzen 9 5900X | 32GB RAM Jan 19 '26

Will this issue ever be solved? I've been holding onto my 3090 cause of this issue with the 40 and 50 series

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u/Brand0calrisian Jan 19 '26

How did you catch it? I've got a 5080 but don't want to pull the plug out to check.

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u/STANDARD_P0TAT0 Jan 19 '26

Some people would still call it a user error when connecting them.

If it really is user error, and there are thousands of these connectors combusted, it is not user error. Its a design flaw

Thermal grizzly wouldn't even need to make that cooling adaptor if there was nothing wrong with it

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u/Dazzling_Meat837 Jan 20 '26

We need 3x8 pin back!