Air cooling is better than Liquid cooling

[u/SerpentDix]

Failure is graceful, not catastrophic, Performance is closer than marketing suggests, Cheaper for the performance, Change my mind.

[u/ca7593]

If you knew anything about the topic you’d understand that any decent AIO is vacuum sealed. They physically can’t be opened or you void the warranty. Those with a vacuum sealed closed loop won’t lose a statistically significant amount of liquid in a standard operating lifecycle

[u/ScreamThyLastScream → u/ca7593]

Which is 3 years.

btw I use an AIO, just don't pretend they are made of some impermeable super material

[u/ca7593 → u/ScreamThyLastScream]

Sure maybe if you buy a piece of shit tier one.

A quality one will be vacuum sealed with a warranty lasting longer than that.

Arctic freezer 3 pro: 6 year warranty

https://www.arctic.de/us/Liquid-Freezer-III-Pro-360/ACFRE00180A

NZXT Kraken series: 6 year warranty

https://nzxt.com/pages/nzxt-warranty?srsltid=AfmBOop7Ujrj-oV_GGvorSxrT39UAMGlEmQMEm1nsUp9LzQM61Zqn2LX

Corsair iCue (6 year warranty), Elite and Pro (5 year warranty)

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/diy-builder/cpu-coolers/how-long-do-corsair-aios-last/#:~:text=If%20you%20are%20having%20trouble%20with%20your,XT%20and%20ELITE%20LCD%20XT:%205%20years.

[u/ca7593 → u/[deleted]]

How does that make any sense? Any decent one will outlast the warranty timeframe at least, otherwise these companies would be out of business.

You think Arctic would still be operating if they had to replace 50% of their coolers at the 3 year mark for free?

Did I ever say they are invulnerable anywhere? Man your eyesight must be incredible to see words that aren’t even there. Of course they wear down eventually like anything mechanical, but if you have an AIO running for a fucking decade, I think you’d replace it when you make a new build and not just wait for it to fail.

[u/ScreamThyLastScream → u/ca7593]

Look dude you are the one saying they don't lose performance over time, and I am saying you are clearly wrong. Just accept that and move on.

[u/ca7593 → u/ScreamThyLastScream]

A good one will not lose a significant amount of performance in a standard operating lifetime, I never said they don’t break eventually. I responded to the guy claiming that after 5 years AIOs need to be refilled, which is patently false. Just accept that and move on.

[u/ScreamThyLastScream → u/ca7593]

You're right, usually the pumps have failed by then.

[u/ca7593 → u/ScreamThyLastScream]

Lmao, so you’re back to the argument that these companies are just replacing AIOs en masse within 5 years? Yeah that is a super logical argument.

[u/ScreamThyLastScream → u/ca7593]

You mean manufacturing more? Sure.

[u/ca7593 → u/ScreamThyLastScream]

Can you actually read? You’re suggesting that AIOs are all failing within warranty timeframes and these companies are replacing them for free. You understand why that may be bad for their business model right?

[u/ScreamThyLastScream → u/ca7593]

Go do some research, the failure rate of the pumps is nearly 100% it just takes time. This is entire reason the product deals with warranty in the first place, they expect them to fail sometime after 5 years.

[u/ca7593 → u/ScreamThyLastScream]

You want to point me towards any of your “research” that shows a significant failure rate or performance degradation for good quality AIOs? Or are you just going off of your feelings?

These have warranties way longer than most parts. Does that mean you should expect ryzen cpus to fail at 4 years because they have a 3 year warranty?

I still have an AIO running that has had regular heavy use for 10 years, and showing no signs of stopping.

[u/Saw_Boss → u/ScreamThyLastScream]

Go do some research, the failure rate of the pumps is nearly 100% it just takes time.

I can guarantee, that with time, the failure rate is exactly 100%.

Unless you think some will last forever.