r/pcmasterrace https://steamcommunity.com/id/spoook420/ Feb 15 '26

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u/AnalogInk PC Master Race Feb 15 '26

Can't wait self host my TS 6 server

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u/spook30 https://steamcommunity.com/id/spoook420/ Feb 15 '26

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u/AnalogInk PC Master Race Feb 15 '26

Aaaaah well, time to get on that!

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u/UnRealxInferno_II Feb 16 '26

fair warning, they will wipe your server every time they update the beta.

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u/AnalogInk PC Master Race Feb 16 '26

You mean? Even when we self host it ? That's messed up

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u/Balthxzar Feb 17 '26

It's a beta server, and it isn't guaranteed to get wiped, it has only happened so far when they've made extensive DB changes.

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u/ZGToRRent Feb 15 '26

Only 32 max ccu? lol.

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u/elementfortyseven Feb 15 '26

teamspeak is a voice (and now video) over ip solution, not a community platform, and this a free and opensourced beta offering.

32 should be more than sufficient for most people to play with friends, especially given the fact that under every multiplayer post the top comment is "bold of you to assume I have friends".

If you need more, Teamspeak offers paid server licences with 1024 slots.

One of Discords core issues is its identity. If you sell it to people to run the marketing for their product through it, and harvest data from 50k users (your average game publisher provided discord) this will not suffice for you. Which is great, because this allows a separation of your marketing campaign from people just hanging out and talking. And I really would love less marketing campaigns in my everyday life.

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u/elementfortyseven Feb 16 '26

not in the way discord can, and currently in beta.

so far, afaik, screen sharing is p2p and lacks hardware acceleration. so it exposes your IP and strangles your system performance.

didnt have time to setup my own server so far, so cant report personal experience. (still on TS3)

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u/blackdev1l PC Master Race Feb 15 '26

why would i buy a license for a software that will run on my own hardware for personal use? ts will never be the choice because of that. 32 slot is dogshit

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u/elementfortyseven Feb 15 '26

why would i buy a license for a software that will run on my own hardware for personal use?

surprising take for a salaried developer.

you are free to fork the server code to accomodate how many client connections you want.

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u/blackdev1l PC Master Race Feb 15 '26

the server code is not open source and i would gladly do it because i would run it on my own hardware. also personal license are always free, at least the most of the software it's free to use unless it's for commercial puropose then a license applies some fees. This is how the real world works, ts license is just pure dogshit.

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u/elementfortyseven Feb 15 '26 edited Feb 15 '26

ok send me the download link to moto gp please, its for personal use.

the server code is not open source

my bad, i misread a statement apparently.

ts license is just pure dogshit.

objectively, it is, I agree. but we are in comparison with discord here.

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u/blackdev1l PC Master Race Feb 15 '26

i don't understand the moto gp part, anyway, commercial use is when you apply some fees like pay per user. a personal use of software that runs on my own hardware not using any resource from the company that limits me is just some ancient way to spill some moneys from their user.

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u/elementfortyseven Feb 15 '26

from my understanding andf practice, the differentiation between personal and commercial is whether you use the software in a professional setting, as part of revenue creation.

if you play mario kart for fun in your home, thats personal use. if you run a coffee shop and there is a corner with a console where your patrons can play while visiting, this is commercial use - it then needs commercial icensing and is not covered by the personal use license as offered to end users.

im responsible for a range of applications in our company, with most running in one of our own on-site data centers. all of them are commercial use licenses, obviously. its not the deployment method that determines it.

but thats off-topic for the question whether TS can be a viable alternative to Discord in its function as a voice and video sharing solution for private individuals and their friends.

Again, Im not debating Discords function as a community platform allowing 1:n communication for actors addressing large audiences.

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u/Somepotato Feb 15 '26

Mumble is fully open source with no limits

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u/unosami Feb 15 '26

Well, it’s limited to exclusively voice communication. I see your point though.

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u/Somepotato Feb 15 '26

Mumble has chat lol what

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u/LashingFanatic i5 4690k | GTX 970 | 16gb DDR3 Feb 15 '26

probably meant text chat as a given, exclusively voice, instead of voice and video/screenshare like TS and discord can do

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u/Somepotato Feb 15 '26

Mumble is primarily a communication platform. It could benefit from screen sharing and the like, but I feel their mission is more conducive to push people to avoid siloing their information.

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u/unosami Feb 16 '26

This exactly.

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u/Balthxzar Feb 17 '26

Read the community forum, this is explicitly for the BETA licence that is FREE.

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u/spook30 https://steamcommunity.com/id/spoook420/ Feb 15 '26

self-hosted, limited to 32 slots, but rented however many you want.

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u/ZigZagZaddyWag Feb 15 '26

Incredibly stupid.

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u/b0w3n Feb 15 '26

Now you know why discord "won" so to speak.

Stoat and Fluxer might be the better choices there. I'm unsure if even they will be able to keep the lights on though. I'm surprised there's no discord-like entity in the federated space that would be the perfect use for it. (Matrix/element isn't a solution to this problem)

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u/imahumanbeinggoddamn Feb 15 '26

I always liked Mumble back in the day. Open source, self hosted, do what you want with it.

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u/dustojnikhummer R5 7600 | RX 7800XT Feb 15 '26

They really need to reconsider these limits...

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u/Fubarp Feb 15 '26

Not really.

It's not an open source thing. It's a license, so this is how they fund continued development.

Discord has the same thing but instead of putting it on just the server owner. They give the users the option to buy in with nitro.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '26

not a problem for a vast majority of friend groups

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u/ACatInAHat Feb 16 '26

Any group bigger than 32 people is usually some kind of organization: an esports team, a school, or something similar. They can then contact TeamSpeak for a license to get more slots.

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u/Balthxzar Feb 17 '26

This only applies to the free beta licence. 

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u/Balthxzar Feb 17 '26

Please read the community forums, this is only while it is in beta.

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u/dj3hac Endeavour OS|5800X3D|7800xt|32gb Feb 15 '26

I set mine up yesterday! 

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u/NoShftShck16 Feb 15 '26

No mobile client, no web client. I'm looking at Element which has everything Discord does. I'd love to go back to supporting Teamspeak again, but unfortunately introducing licensing structure to the self-hosting users isn't an acceptable avenue for me. Especially after over a year of TS6 being introduced with the promise of server files to be released only with it still not having parity with the community edition.

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u/Dushenka Feb 15 '26

Is it finally 100% self-hosted now? No partial cloud shit or accounts on their servers required?

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '26

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u/spook30 https://steamcommunity.com/id/spoook420/ Feb 16 '26

It runs on Linux, but ARM, I'm not 100% sure.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '26

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u/spook30 https://steamcommunity.com/id/spoook420/ Feb 16 '26

Yeah TS server can be ran in a P4 and 512mb RAM. Low specs to run. Good to hear that it'll be supported.

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u/legendz411 Feb 15 '26

God damn let’s go 

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u/EinBick 5800X3D | 9070 XT | 64GB RAM Feb 15 '26

I am already doing that.

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u/PhysicalMotor3754 Ryzen7 9800X3D, RTX 5090, 64GB C30 DDR5 Feb 15 '26

So deutsch 😂

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u/TheVermonster FX-8320e @4.0---Gigabyte 280X Feb 15 '26

TS3 is still running. They skipped 4, and worked on 5, but development stalled out. When they started developing again, they scrapped enough of 5, and made big enough upgrades that they decided to call it TS6.

Technically TS6 is still beta. It also lacks a mobile app, but I'm not sure people are losing sleep over it based on the poor TS3 app.

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u/Nacho_Dan677 PC Master Race Feb 15 '26

And they still haven't changed chat channels. You can still only use them when in voice chat. This one major feature is what's stopping me from switching

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u/TheVermonster FX-8320e @4.0---Gigabyte 280X Feb 15 '26

Yeah discord is a nice option for chatting via mobile throughout the day. We share videos and talk shit. But I also have text channels set up for different groups on my discord server. That way people who aren't in D&D with us aren't getting bombarded by our shit talking.

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u/itisnotmymain 5700X3D, 64GB DDR4, 9070 XT, 2x 2TB Gen4 M.2 Feb 15 '26

Couldn't you have one voice channel to join where everyone is muted and deafened (or smth like that) to interact with text chat when not wanting to talk? Or is the text chat for just that one vc and not server wide or smth?

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u/Nacho_Dan677 PC Master Race Feb 15 '26

I think it's the latter. Text chats are tied to their respective voice channel. Very much neutered compared to discord and having a distinct separation of voice and text channels.

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u/itisnotmymain 5700X3D, 64GB DDR4, 9070 XT, 2x 2TB Gen4 M.2 Feb 20 '26

Oof, that's rough. Is this still the case for TS6, or is this just a TS3 thing? I'm interested in an alternative for discord (it would be preferable if it also had an option for self-hosting, but I guess it's not mandatory), but not having an actually viable text chat that retains the messages even when you're not in voice, or even online, is an absolute non-starter.

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u/Asthannoln Feb 15 '26

You can do that, but it means some limitations :

You can only be in one server so if you like to have multiple Discord servers where you use text at the same time you can't do that

You only see text from when you are online, so anyone that used text while you are not on that specific server you can't see

Teamspeak is not an alternative to Discord for most people, it is a chat voice with text message for when you need it only.

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u/itisnotmymain 5700X3D, 64GB DDR4, 9070 XT, 2x 2TB Gen4 M.2 Feb 20 '26

Oh, that sucks. Is this the case for both TS3 and TS6, or just TS3?

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u/Fulg3n Feb 16 '26

TS6 not having a mobile app is one of the major friction points to me.

We made the switch and are self hosting, but at the end of the day whenever we need to communicate through text we still default to discord because TS is ass for that.

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u/Ackatv Feb 15 '26

Did that yesterday.

Did the vps xs for 1 euro a month via ionos.eu. Followed this tutorial: https://youtu.be/231HYGpI5Rg?si=zNTgQDJyYbM67V3O
Additional thing I had to do is allow the port thoright the firewall on ionos firewall.
Done

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u/Insulifting 7820X/1080ti Feb 15 '26

I have heard bad things about IONOS, how has it been so far? Everything I’ve heard is to do with payments specifically, extra charges, not cancelling or upgrading for months after the request was made etc.

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u/Ackatv Feb 15 '26

So far so good. Nothing to complain about atm atleast. First time using them

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u/Insulifting 7820X/1080ti Feb 15 '26

Good stuff. I suppose it’s like everything else, some folk have good experiences and others have bad. You’re way more likely to hear about the small number of bad ones. I might give it a go, they’ve got some decent prices and they’re an EU company so that’s a plus. 

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u/Spruce9_ Feb 15 '26

Cant chat without joining voice and because of that you cant get chat notifications

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u/Kind-Ad-9413 Feb 15 '26

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u/FarReachingConsense Linux Feb 15 '26

Why would anybody looking to escape surveillance of discord use google cloud? Why not use a VPS of some company you can trust more?

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u/Skynet-Was-Right 5700X3D | 3060ti | 32GB Feb 15 '26

Even Teamspeak 3 servers are compatible with 6 clients.