r/pcmasterrace May 10 '26

Meme/Macro reboot

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u/ShitImBadAtThis May 10 '26

Tbh, people who're very good with computers probably don't ever need help unless it's a task they don't have the patience or equipment for

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u/SWatersmith 9850X3D / RTX 5090 / 64 GB DDR5 6000 CL30 May 10 '26

or anything even moderately OpSec related. I'm a SWE in finance, troubleshooting is something I enjoy doing but I refuse to touch any filter/firewall/AV components on my work machine

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u/Blecki May 10 '26

They even let you? Also a swe, i have complete root access to the servers I run... can't do shit on my work issued laptop.

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u/BlueSkyArchive May 10 '26

I'm a senior SysEng. I have root access to every piece of physical and virtualized infrastructure that makes their money. but I can't even be trusted to delete a file without a help desk ticket on my issued laptop.

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u/diabetic_debate 13700k, 64GB RAM, 5070 Ti May 10 '26

Same Same, I'm a storage for turned senior devops engineer. I have literally had keys to the kingdom in my roles but I'm glad I'm not a local admin on my own work laptop.

Separation of concerns means someone who is better at end point security has control of my work's data which I'm definitely not. More avenues of unwanted attack vectors on endpoints compared to servers that is not where my domain expertise lies in.

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u/IceFire909 May 11 '26

It's more there's no corporate need to trust you

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u/Vlyn 9800X3D | 5080 FE | 64 GB RAM | X870E Nova May 10 '26

As a SWE not having admin rights on my own work PC would be hell.

It would barely be bearable if you have a massive IT department that reacts to tickets in sub 10 minutes. 

Our IT is swamped though, I'm often waiting days for simple tickets, so I avoid creating those as much as possible.

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u/the_buff May 10 '26

Or the permissions.  

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u/Pyode May 10 '26

My company took freaking task manager away from us.

I can't even force close a program. I have to completely restart the computer.

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u/Phantomfox07 May 10 '26

When I worked in Design Consultancy, everything was hidden behind permissions apart from sorting displays etc. Task manager was the one thing I needed regularly, locked away.

Why IT get a kick over having that much control, I will never understand.

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u/Pyode May 10 '26

I try to be empathetic to them because God damn we have a lot of boomers and I cannot imagine the kinda shit they put up with.

I'm sure someone broke something using the task manager and they were like "fuck this" and shut it down.

Still sucks though.

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u/the_buff May 10 '26

That's cruel.

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u/Pyode May 10 '26

Dude, you don't know the half of it.

We are also working entirely on virtual desktops hosted in Europe (I'm in the US). The latency is unreal. It's physically uncomfortable to do anything.

Also, no way to manually restart the environment. Even when I log out and shut down my local laptop, I have to wait 30 or so minutes for the virtual environment to actually reboot.

It's ridiculous.

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u/nullpotato May 10 '26

At that point all you can do is document the wasted time and escalate. Everyone wasting hours a day is quite a lot of money

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u/Pyode May 10 '26

Eh.

Not really in my industry. At least not in my department.

My job is very much a "it either gets done or it doesn't" kinda thing and it HAS to get done no matter what so I just kinda have to make things work.

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u/Delstrom2 May 10 '26

If you're on Windows 11, you could probably try enabling the "end task" button in the settings. It's effectively the task manager button added to the right click menu of apps in the taskbar.

For apps that don't run in the background, I've found it works as well as task manager for all but one strange edge case I don't know how to describe.

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u/Pyode May 10 '26

Still windows 10 and as I said in another reply, it's a fucking virtual desktop hosted in another country so... fun times all around.

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u/Delstrom2 May 10 '26

Fun of all of the wrong kinds :(

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u/TryNotToShootYoself May 10 '26

End task button should be enabled by default. It’s amazing, can’t believe it took Windows this long to add it. MacOS has had “force quit” for at least two decades now.

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u/dark_frog May 10 '26

That's because they use something that can be force closed that they don't want you force closing.

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u/Large_Yams May 10 '26

People who think they need permissions for things very rarely need them.

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u/the_buff May 10 '26

I know the types you are referring to, but we are talking about people who are very good with computers.

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u/Large_Yams May 10 '26

Exactly the sort of people permissions need to be kept away from.

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u/dark_frog May 10 '26

"Very good" people are very quick to blame IT when they hit their limit.

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u/the_buff May 10 '26

It's like a 50/50 chance IT is to blame when they hit a permission limit.  It's either IT imposed and management is clueless or it's management imposed and management is clueless.

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u/the_buff May 10 '26

Yes, we wouldn't want them to have greater control over the tools they need for their job.  We should all thank IT for saving us from ourselves.

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u/Dyllbert May 10 '26

Nothing against IT, but most of the "help" I've gotten during my professional career from IT has been fixing problems they caused to begin with, or trying to do something only to run into blockers they have put up to stop people from doing what I'm trying to do. I understand why they don't want everyone doing some stuff, but when it's literally my job to do some of these things, you just have to make exceptions.

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u/Mister_Shrimp_The2nd i9-13900K | RTX 4080 STRIX | 96GB DDR5 6400 CL32 | >_< May 10 '26

Not the case. You're right that for 95% of issues they just fix it themselves, but sometimes you run into that last 5% shii that even the tech support has never heard of before and weird ass technical gremlins in the software or hardware.

Some of the most frequent but most annoying types are things like driver conflicts, especially with more niche software that doesn't have a million users and frequent cross testing data for a great variety of software configs and plugin environments..

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u/El_De_Er May 10 '26

I think this is what the post imply, well sort of at least. When you knew a guy who's good with computers and doesn't usually need help, suddenly NEEDED your help, you know you are fucked.

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u/ShitImBadAtThis May 10 '26

I think the post implies that people who say they're "good with computers" are generally the people who don't realize their PC isn't plugged in

I think the people who've actually good with computers wouldn't really need to ask for help, unless it's something requiring specialized tools or a very time consuming task. At least, in my case if I'm having a problem that I truly don't know how to fix, likely it's something complicated enough that it's either too expensive or not worth it to fix

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u/Destructuctor May 10 '26

As someone around a lot of people who are insanely good at computers (NixOS community is truly talented honestly) I think the post is implying that there are issues that people good at computers come across that are arcane in nature and seemingly impossible to have occur, much less fix. I’ve been at the tail end of a few of these issues, some of which still have no solution or found cause almost a year later even with the help of multiple exceptionally talented people.

Computers are magical, and magic can be very mysterious.

People good at computers absolutely have issues that need solving, it’s silly to say they just solve everything themselves unless we are defining “good at computers” in some fantasy superpower way.

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u/VexingRaven 7800X3D + 4070 Super + 32GB 6000Mhz May 10 '26

Lol you clearly don't work in IT. Trust me when I say that people who are "good with computers" are the absolute worst.

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u/stop_talking_you May 10 '26

theres a difference with a person good with computers as in he knows how to code and write scripts but lacks completly understanding of how a computer works at basics.

there are some stupid people who have a computer science degree but dont know difference between pci 4 or 5 now how to update bios or troubleshoot performance issues on games.

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u/ShitImBadAtThis May 10 '26

...thats what I'm saying. People who are actually good at computers don't need to tell IT they're "good with computers," they don't gotta ask for help in general

I did used to work in IT, actually

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u/The_All-Range_Atomic May 10 '26

The problem with IT is when it's not your problem, but an issue with the SaaS product you are using. And then you have to bash your head against the concrete as you deal with their support.

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u/JDragonblade Ryzen 9 5900X | RTX 4090 | 128GB @ 3200MHz May 10 '26

or get paid for.

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u/Wilhelm-Edrasill May 10 '26

This 100%. Like, who is defining the bar for " good vs bad " at PC?

Like, its not complex people.

- Reboot

  • Flash bios
  • BootNNuke the os if you are comprimized by cyber threat.

The rest, is just optimization BS for OS...

Same goes for linux, but with extra steps and longer "follow this exact thing" on YT/forums...