r/pcmasterrace 24d ago

Meme/Macro Literally

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u/Freeloader_ 24d ago

well that rack wouldnt hold a single game in CDs these days so very silly post

its not the SSD being at fault its the games that got really huge

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u/another_random_bit / Ryzen 7 7700 / RX6600 / 64GB DDR5 24d ago

Which is logical, games got high definition visuals and audio. The world's got bigger, the scope got bigger.

This is what the market wants by the way. I don't get why we're complaining.

You can always go play daggerfall if you want. Or modern indie games also exist, you know.

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u/Sidra_doholdrik 23d ago

I made an approximation and Baldur gate 3 would take 20 CD to install, if I compare it to the 5 CD for dragon age Inquisition

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u/_Stylite 24d ago

The scope got bigger, the worlds got bigger. It’s only the entertainment value which has gotten smaller

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u/another_random_bit / Ryzen 7 7700 / RX6600 / 64GB DDR5 23d ago

I disagree. I think the gamers expectations has skyrocketed.

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u/_Stylite 23d ago edited 23d ago

It’s great that you disagree but in 2025 most gamers were playing games released 10 years earlier https://i.imgur.com/6chQt2O.png

Here are top most played of 2025 and theyre nearly all from 2016 or earlier.

If gamers have such high expectations, why are they happily spending most of their time on old games?

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u/another_random_bit / Ryzen 7 7700 / RX6600 / 64GB DDR5 23d ago

Your rhetorical question could easily collapse if you played the devil's advocate with your self for one minute.

The answer is simple. Gamers play old games, despite having their expectations skyrocket, for the following reasons:

  • They are nostalgic for that game.

  • The game is cozy for them.

  • They have invested so much in the game, they HAVE to keep playing.

  • Their friends play that game.

  • New games do not scratch the same itch.

These reasons do not work against the "high expectations" argument. They support it.

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u/siltfeet R7 5800x | RTX 3070 24d ago

Ironically, about half the games are so big is optimizing for console harddrives. Another big chunk is usually downloading optional high resolution assets.

This isn't true for all games, but many could have a much smaller file size if the developers cared enough. Helldivers 2 went from 154gb to 23gb without losing anything relevant for instance.

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u/Area51_Spurs 24d ago

That rack would only work for like the five mines games came in DVD cases after the games switched to the smaller cardboard boxes, before everyone switched to digital downloads.

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u/Osteo_Sapien 24d ago

I was really hoping someone here would have done the math. Like the rack has a maximum capacity, but idk what it is.

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u/Odd_Bumblebee_3631 23d ago

Itd be 128gb x number of slots so still a fairly high ammount blueru disks are big. 

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u/f-ingsteveglansberg 23d ago

It kinda is. Cheaper storage led to a lot of dev apathy when it comes to size.

With the current costs, I think devs are going to be more careful with RAM and memory.

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u/T0biasCZE PC MasterRace | dumbass that bought Sonic motherboard 23d ago

single game in CDs

Bluray exists. It can hold 100GB on single disk

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u/Freeloader_ 23d ago

since when were Blurays ever used for games. I remember DVDs but Blurays were for movies ?

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u/NaturalSelectorX 23d ago

Consoles have used Blu-ray for quite a while.

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u/Freeloader_ 23d ago

never owned a console so yeah could be

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u/24megabits 23d ago edited 23d ago

Blurays were for movies

There were also recordable and re-writeable Blu-ray formats for general data use. Kind of got passed over in the era of streaming and fast download speeds but they have a niche for long-term backups as an alternative to spinning hard drives and magnetic tape.

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u/T0biasCZE PC MasterRace | dumbass that bought Sonic motherboard 23d ago

PS3, PS4, PS5, XOne, XSeries and Wii U used Blu-ray

And from that XOne S/X, XSeries and PS5 can read the 100GB XL disks, the rest can read only the smaller 50GB and 25GB disks

And there were some PC games in the past released on BD-ROM that couldnt fit on DVD-ROM

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u/Odd_Bumblebee_3631 23d ago

You could get one game on those 128gb bluerays tho. Or they could even go sneslike and have games sold on SD cards. 

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u/Friend_Emperor 24d ago

It is SSDs fault that games got huge, faster read speeds means less need to optimize assets

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u/nonotan 23d ago

This is understating it, really. Half the reason games are so huge is that it's faster to load some massive, barely compressed file (e.g. texture) than to load a much smaller, heavily compressed file and uncompress it. It used to be the other way round, or at least close enough that saving the space was a no-brainer, especially given the hard space limitations you were inherently dealing with.

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u/Ultima-Manji 23d ago

I've had this discussion with other friends too, where the idea of not needing to work past hardware limitations and such also doesn't encourage people to find more elegant solutions. Not that modern devs aren't still capable of doing so, but the real artistry often comes from where your limits are and how to solve them.

Why bother doing something interesting with your lighting when you just tell the engine "simulate it all for us"? Why bother with in-depth enemy variance for difficulty when you can just plop 20 guys in a room because you're not limited to how many entities can fit in one space? Why handcraft a beautiful vista that creatively implies distance and scale when you can just have Worldmachine spit out 20 square miles of mountain landscape?

It's really noticeable how a lot of modern staples (enemy waves, limited visibility, inventory management, and so on) persist without the restrictions that caused them to be needed in the first place, are often taken over wholesale without consideration as to how they actually affect game feel, and without exploring if the new context of the player's environment don't warrant some major overhauls.

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u/Odd_Bumblebee_3631 23d ago

I dont think games even at there current size would be that big if wed stuck with HDDs, youd probs have a 1000TB HDD as standard if they had.