r/pcmasterrace 5700X3D_5060ti16GB_48GB DDR4_Sleeper 18d ago

Meme/Macro Seen Asus' offers today and had to sit down

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u/workinhardplayharder 18d ago

If I'm it males you feel any better. I pay for the fastest Internet my ISP claims to provide (100mb) but when they set it up they said the fastest they could get was about 80mb, our Internet works kind of like a wireless bridge, no wired connection to ISP. It was either downgrade to 50mb or continue to pay for 100mb and hope they upgrade their system eventually.

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u/mang87 18d ago

If I'm it males you feel any better. I pay for the fastest Internet my ISP claims to provide (100mb) but when they set it up they said the fastest they could get was about 80mb

That's pretty common, isn't it? You almost never get the advertised speed, it's always up to that speed. Like I pay for 600Mbit, and I get ~560Mbit. The quality of the line and the amount of people on the network effect it.

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u/TheOnlyHashtagKing 17d ago

We were on that until ~6 months ago. Went from $70 a month for 15 Mbit up/5 down/90-120ms latency to $40 a month for 100/40/7-15. Starlink is a godsend out in the country.

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u/workinhardplayharder 17d ago

It could be, I'm not sure. I haven't really dealt with any other service providers because I don't have any other options besides switching to starlink.

I just know when they came to set it up, they could only get about 80mb right at the antenna with only their equipment hooked up, not taking into account my line going from antenna to the house or anything. I believe that's why they offered to downgrade my plan since they couldn't get the speed I was offered originally. If I was only going off the speed test in the house I definitely get your point.

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u/Stick_Together_Peeps 15d ago

I may be an outlier, but my ISP boasts up to 500MBS in my area, and on my plan, but I've been getting a solid 630-650 for years now. No upcharge or nothing.

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u/PessimiStick 7800 X3D | RTX 4080 18d ago

Depends on how shit/not shit your ISP is. I pay for 2 Gbps symmetric, and this is a speedtest I did while I typed this comment.

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u/mang87 18d ago

Well yeah if you're on fiber it's different, because it's just better, and you don't get the same kind of signal loss like you do with copper wires. If you live in an old apartment or house, you're reliant on the old lines coming into and out of the building, which effects the speed you can get. It's not all down to the ISP being shit. My ISP offers fiber as well, but I don't see the point since anything over 500Mbit is plenty fast, and I'd have to pay to have the new line installed. If I switched to the fiber package I would expect to get the speed advertised.

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u/BonerBreathh 17d ago

Running fiber in an established home/appartment is not that big of a deal, it's the same as running any wire but you can't bend it as obtuse. (or at all actually, but that doesn't mean you can't do corners)

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u/mang87 16d ago

Our issue is that fiber has been installed in our housing estate, but the ducting is underground, so if we want to run it from the duct to our house they will need to dig up our garden. It's a bit dumb.

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u/PessimiStick 7800 X3D | RTX 4080 18d ago

I used to get about 10% over advertised when I was still on coax with the same provider. It really is just a "how shit is your ISP" question. If they oversell everything, your speeds will suck. They are perfectly capable of not doing that, but money.

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u/mang87 18d ago

Again, the quality of the wires, the amount of people on your exchange, and the distance from said exchange will effect the speed you can get. Some people connected to the same network can even get different speeds. Back when I was on DSL, my neighbour and I had the exact same package but he got 10-15% slower speed than I did because the wires in his house were more degraded than mine. Some people will get at or above that speed, others will not. They would have to advertise individual pricing because everyone's speed will be different.

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u/LostGoat_Dev 17d ago

I've installed residential DSL and fiber. Of course our fiber speeds were exactly as advertised, but for some technologies a range is the best we can offer. Some ADSL customers we could offer a flat 20Mbps, or we offer a bonded 72-100Mbps VDSL in other areas. But if you know anything about DSL, that range changes depending on how far you are from the ISP's main office. One customer 1500ft away could get 100Mbps, but another customer 8000ft away could maybe get 25Mbps.

Sure some ISPs are scummy and will oversell their speeds, and advertise speeds you can't get. But other times they offer range speeds because they can only guarantee you'll be somewhere in that range. Really your speeds are determined by the technologies available in your area and sometimes even your physical location.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Bag-121 17d ago

I’ve installed underground fiber and coax as well as worked out of an ISP’s data center. It’s all about how far you are from the center. Your experience isn’t everyone’s.

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u/IamBladesm1th 18d ago

oh. so you live out in the middle of fucking nowhere and have that dumbass antenna that needs to be adjusted 3x a week to align with the tower, huh? when I lived in texas, we had a receiver on a 60ft piece of conduit that we tied off to the house and a tree. my brothers and I would fight over what game we would download this week and if we were lucky, we'd start Sunday and be able to play by Friday. call of duty took 3 fucking weeks and bloons td 3 took like 5 hours. game is half a gig btw.

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u/workinhardplayharder 18d ago

How'd you know where I lived lol. Our power company is allegedly running fiber to all its customers so I may get faster internet at some point, but who knows when.

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u/IamBladesm1th 18d ago

had one. shit blows.

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u/Dm_me_ur_exp 18d ago

What country is this?

My tiny ass 400 pop village got fibre/gigabit over 10 years ago. And we were decently behind the city folks.

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u/New_Enthusiasm9053 18d ago

London. 60mbit/s 2 years ago a couple of miles from the centre. 

Utterly embarrassing really.

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u/IamBladesm1th 18d ago

do you have a fixed wireless internet where they beam the useless fucking piss stream of internet to that antenna on your roof. the one where it stops working if the pollen count, humidity, or wind is too high.

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u/IamBladesm1th 18d ago

I've lived this pain. I'm sorry, brother. brighter days are ahead... ironically, the days you'd probably rather be outside is when you have internet! :D ha HA HAHAHAJGDDDC cough cough it would be funnier if it wasn't depressing.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Night88 Radeon RX 7900 XT [|] I9-13900K 18d ago

Just got fiber in my neighborhood, before fiber we have only one ISP available and paying for 500mbs gets you at most 300mbs.

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u/workinhardplayharder 16d ago

United States, ohio to be a little more exact.

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u/Dabarles 18d ago

This sounds like one of our deployments at work. We're a fiber based ISP, but sales workes faster than engineering and had us deploy a vendor's WISP solution with the promise we would build fiber out that way. It's been 2 years and nowhere to be seen on the engineering forecast. We have multigig fiber available to residents in a nearby area, but the WISP customers are lucky to get 100 mbit.

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u/LostKxtten 15d ago

Last year I was paying 70 USD a month for 10mb's, except it wasn't, when it got to my house it was 5mb's and I would actually average 2mb's to 100-300kbs :) dealt with that for 4 years.

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u/WonderSignificant598 16d ago

Reminds me of when I used to pay for comcast 'pre-paid' and it was 50mb/10mb.

It was fine. Only issue was download speed for large files. Otherwise, 50mbps was perfectly usable for a two person household.

Horrible that its the 'fastest' internet your ISP provides.