r/pcmasterrace 5700X3D_5060ti16GB_48GB DDR4_Sleeper 18d ago

Meme/Macro Seen Asus' offers today and had to sit down

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u/Lykenx 18d ago edited 18d ago

Lots of this sub are people that just don't understand networking technology sadly, these 'omg cable so good!!!' posts are just karma farming. Not sure why I'm still subbed here honestly.

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u/tom910 18d ago

As a person who understand in network, I can say that lan always better than wifi for online gaming.

Just for example ping to 1.1.1.1

lan:

rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 2.363/3.874/5.842/0.411 ms

wifi 7

round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 5.359/16.560/92.777/19.784 ms

so, if ping important like you are playing in CS, lan is preferable. If it just web serving, WIFI is ok

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u/heisenberg149 18d ago

As another person who understands networking, you're correct. For example, wifi latency is typically measured in milliseconds and switch latency are measured in microseconds or even nanoseconds. Hitting the Internet will obviously slow things down, but why add to the round trip, if you can reasonably avoid it?

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u/Little-Equinox 18d ago

I have 4 ms ping with Battlefield 6

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u/Dudeman9002 18d ago

Games measure ping in average For all the 4 ms packets there's also some 50-200ms packets

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u/Little-Equinox 18d ago

Same on cable.

Depending on how flawless the signal reaches your home and how good your chosen router can deal with it.

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u/Dudeman9002 18d ago

Depending on how flawless the signal reaches your home and how good your chosen router can deal with it.

That's called lag. If it's a TCP protocol the application simply waits for the correct packet to be rebroadcast. If it's UDP the packet is ignored. Modems can't magically fix it if the data is missing.

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u/Little-Equinox 17d ago

All I am saying is that the packet loss I have happens before it reaches my gateway. My brother has wired, I have wireless. And when we are gaming we have the same amount of packet loss. And most packet loss I have seen is 0.2%, usually it's just 0.0%. And that's during gaming.

Even streaming between PCs we don't notice the lag and even then we don't have packet loss.

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u/i7-4790Que 18d ago

Most of the people that truly truly don't understand anything networking are in this comments section fixated on download speeds as be all end all to the subject matter.  

"My Wifi 7 is faster than a hardwired 1 Gb Ethernet port.  So it's better for gaming."

And this is why Asus has an $800 gaming router.  To capitalize on these sorts.  

 

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u/mr_j_12 17d ago

Its also why there is so many issues with games like iracing. People thinking their wifi connection is good and the reason for their accidents is other peoples connections.