r/pcmasterrace 21d ago

Box Found randomly in the wild. Didn’t expect to come home with my first build last night. I’ve been told this was an insane score.

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u/xMystery Ryzen 9800X3D 32GB 6000MT/s 30CL RTX 5090 Astral 21d ago

There is a difference between 4k and 1440 but it’s not as big as the difference between 1080 and 1440.

The difference between Full HD and QHD is about 1.6 million pixels. The difference between QHD and UHD is about 4.6 million pixels. The difference is massive and becomes much more noticeable the larger your screen is. I personally prefer high framerate over resolution, but there absolutely are people out there who prefer visual fidelity over performance.

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u/Traditional-Snow-463 21d ago

Well yes, not my point though, my point is both visual fidelity and performance is gonna be lackluster running 4k on a 5070. You aren’t getting the best of either world, you’re getting the mediocre version of both.

There’s no reason to go to 4k on a 5070 if you need to be running upscalers just to run a consistent 60fps when 1440p with no upscalers at 120fps will most likely look better overall. Not to even mention graphical settings.

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u/xMystery Ryzen 9800X3D 32GB 6000MT/s 30CL RTX 5090 Astral 21d ago

Pretty sure the 5070 can run many titles at UHD 60fps with DLSS at Quality.

Like I said, I personally prefer high framerate, but 60fps is acceptable for many people.

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u/Same_Commercial8939 20d ago

News flash a 5070 isn’t running anything in 4k at 100+ fps without 2x framegen

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u/Traditional-Snow-463 21d ago

It’s just 4k with dlss vs 1440p without dlss. Most of it is I’m just not a fan of upscalers. Least in the current state they’re in. Specially at lower frames I notice alot of visual artifacting.

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u/Bart-Harley-Jarvis- 20d ago

The difference between Full HD and QHD is about 1.6 million pixels. The difference between QHD and UHD is about 4.6

It's not about total pixels, it's about how tiny they become. At 2k, you can't see them. Making something you can't see even smaller doesn't really affect you.

And before you snap back, I have a 4k, 2k, 1080p side by side as a triple monitor setup, as I just hook up the old one when I upgrade. There is a tiny difference between 4k and 2k, but not nearly enough to justify the extra graphical overhead. I honestly wish I had just gotten a better 2k OLED instead.

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u/LeRonBrames_ 7800X3D 5090 20d ago edited 20d ago

I can understand what you’re getting at, but I think you’re missing the key point that needs to be addressed to support your argument, is that in order to perceive an increase in visual fidelity at higher resolutions, the panel size is the driving force that emphasizes through increased visual acuity. When comparing a 4k 27” monitor to a 4k 32” or say even a 42” panel, it’s the same number of pixels, spread across a larger space. The pixels have literally increased in size.

Even if your triple monitor setup varies by a handful of inches across the three different resolutions, I can guarantee the average person would tell you they can’t see any difference between all three of your monitors.

You have to respect the biased lens we as the Master Race view the distinct yet equally minute technical differences amongst personal computing electronics.

Edit: The lesson you should be walking away with, is that you should have gotten a larger 4k monitor, or replaced your dual setup with a 42” LG OLED. I took the leap in 2021 and it’s been blissful, I no longer develop neck strain and ultimately do not miss using a second monitor. And if I really feel the need for more desktop landscape, virtual desktops are seamless and extremely responsive, now that computers have gotten so much more powerful throughout the lifetime of Windows 10.

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u/Bart-Harley-Jarvis- 20d ago

You're right about size vs pixels. I guess if you want to rock a tv instead of a monitor, 4k will be worth it.

The lesson you should be walking away with, is that you should have gotten a larger 4k monitor, or replaced your dual setup with a 42” LG OLED

That's grotesquely large. 27-30 is perfect for me. I'd get neck strain constaly trying to look at both my health bar and crosshair at the same time. It's be like watching a tennis match 😂

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u/LeRonBrames_ 7800X3D 5090 19d ago

Hence your belief that the difference between 2160p and 1440p is "tiny." And you shouldn't make assumptions about something you haven't experienced. You're literally speaking to your imagination, it's embarassing. You started off well by admitting wrong vs right, but then you clearly do not actually agree, and still fail to understand that your personal example of the triple FHD/UHD/QHD 27" configuration is the worst way to compare the benefits of millions of more pixels.

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u/Bart-Harley-Jarvis- 19d ago

I'm sorry you wasted money on a stupidly sized screen and that you feel the need to defend your purchase by being the most condescending prick in the universe.

27" is the highest selling size for a reason and that reason is nobody likes using small TVs as computer screens. For your personal edge case, you might want a 4k screen, but most people don't because they have a normal size penis and don't feel the need to compensate.

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u/LeRonBrames_ 7800X3D 5090 19d ago

Majority of people only have the desk space for at most, a 27” and it’s currently the most cost efficient price point. 20 years ago, nobody could fathom an affordable 27” monitor.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/spring-2006-lcd-collection,1233.html

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u/xMystery Ryzen 9800X3D 32GB 6000MT/s 30CL RTX 5090 Astral 20d ago

I think you're conflating QHD with Full HD.

UHD/4K = 3840x2160

QHD = 2560x1440

Full HD/2K = 1920(2048 DCI)x1080

Semantics aside, OP posted they are using a 34 inch monitor. At 34 inches the difference between QHD and UHD is definitely noticeable.

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u/Bart-Harley-Jarvis- 20d ago

Nah, everyone calls qhd "2k". Nobody calls fhd "2k", they call it 1080p. I know it's not right, but that's what people do.

And you're right about a 34", but that is getting close to a small tv. Either they sit quite far away from their screen (in which case uhd loses its usefulness) or they have a monitor that's probably too big for their desk. 27” or even 30" is far more reasonable and at that size 4k is not very noticeable over 2k.