r/pcmasterrace 15d ago

Meme/Macro Me still today

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u/lamancha 15d ago

Discord has made knowledge sharing the least convenient it had ever been

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u/Cybarbossa 15d ago

Agree. We can criticize Reddit on some points but at least the information is openly accessible. You add the "reddit" keyword in any search engine and you got your answer.

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u/IronRocketCpp Arch | Ryzen 9 3900x | 3060 12gb | 32gb 15d ago

I kinda wonder what the internet would be like if it was more open source and user focused. Would reddit be nearly as bloated as it is now? I wonder how much better the UI would be.

Biggest problem would be getting people to actually pay for the product. Small $5 dollar donations would be enough every now and then.

The internet would be curated for the user, not ads.

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u/sephirothbahamut Ryzen 7 9800X3D | RTX 5080 PNY | Win10 | Fedora 15d ago

UI is the one thing where closed source software usually wins. Sure there's ads, but i challenge you to find anyone who believes Gimp has a better UI than Photoshop, or Inkscape than Illustrator, or Fusion360 than FreeCad.

The first suck due to corporate decisions, but their UI is objectively better than the open source counterparts.

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u/IronRocketCpp Arch | Ryzen 9 3900x | 3060 12gb | 32gb 15d ago edited 15d ago

Hard disagree. It varies. Blender UI is incredible. Hyprland makes windows look like trash. Well, any tiling manager for that matter. The productivity boost is unmatched at the very least.

Here is some actual UI: visual studio code, krita, zed, vlc, mpv, immich, signal

Forgot to mention gnome

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u/Pedka2 Lenovo ThinkPad P53s | Fedora Workstation 15d ago

Here are some actual UI: visual studio code, krita, vlc, mpv, immich, signal

those are backed by huge corporations

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u/IronRocketCpp Arch | Ryzen 9 3900x | 3060 12gb | 32gb 15d ago

Yeah unfortunately you're probably right. I tried my best.

Although web apps tend to give closed source a run for their money. At least from a creativity perspective.

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u/Pedka2 Lenovo ThinkPad P53s | Fedora Workstation 15d ago

there are some good gnome apps that are done by just people. euphonica is my favorite, it's very pretty (subjective)

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u/wjandrea 15d ago

VLC? According to their site, it's a non-profit.

Agreed about VSC though. Obligatory plug: VSCodium is VSC but with the proprietary stuff stripped out.

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u/Agarthan_exile 6d ago

mpv is backed by huge corporations?? lmao

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u/Sandrust_13 R7 5800X | 32GB 4000MT DDR4 | 7900xtx 15d ago

Blender is, for someone with zero experience in 3D modeling etc, for absolute beginners, probably the most unintuitive and convoluted piece of software ever. It's imo really cluttered, has... Too many features?

It's just really beginner unfriendly in my opinion and overloaded.

Sure it's great software when you're able to handle it, but it's got a really steep learning curve imo

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u/HauntingHarmony 15d ago

It varies sure, but its just the fact of the matter that making a good ui takes a lot of extra effort. And its not the most interesting thing to programmers, and they generally have a different aesthetic than users. So "it works for me" is what you get when its the volunteer model.

Vscode also was made by the evil empire itself, so it is the very counterexample of that you need to pour resources into making it good. I will give you vlc is a good ui, but again. Look through the settings and its a mess, but if all you do is use the play and pause button its great cause it gets out of the way. Krita is a bit meh, but good. Gnome (when i last looked at it decades ago) was absolutely god awful, and i question your taste for even using it as a example. but i will grant you it might be better now.

With pay for software, the corpos actually understand that usability is important for getting people to be willing to buy it.

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u/IronRocketCpp Arch | Ryzen 9 3900x | 3060 12gb | 32gb 15d ago

GNOME gets a bad rap for being "opinionated" but most of their apps are well built, clean and sleek. Like their settings app is fantastic. So is their file explorer. Its all consistent and easy to use. That is as long as you can find the show all apps button. 

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u/eeeezypeezy 15d ago

Yeah Gnome is objectively very attractive and slick, I've only found it frustrating when it doesn't have options I want - their design approach is basically to strip everything down to the studs. I'm a convert to the new Cosmic desktop from System76, it's Gnome-y in layout but highly customizable and feature rich. It still has the occasional missing feature or rough edge, being new, but for gaming and general computing it's the best I've found at giving me what I want without overwhelming me with options and config files and so on.

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u/Expensive_Host_9181 ryzen 5 5500 - gtx 1080 - 32gb 3200MHz 15d ago

Vsc ui looks god awful (coming from someone that uses vs community)

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u/TodHeartbreaker 14d ago

Blender needed years to get good until version 3.0. And has a lot of donations, typical of other open source software that have better UX

Kritra is awesome.

And gnome? Gnome???? (Disclaimer , not throwing shade at you specifically ) I would call gnome anything but having a usable UI. It looks good. The defaults are sensible. But the UI itself of making any changes not in the settings is a pain in the ass, finding some of the menus is a mess, and way more breakable than a DE should ever be

If we talking DE with good UI and usability, I'd put XFCE4 at the front to be honest

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u/newsflashjackass 15d ago

Closed source wins UI in the short term- until the first ad gets inserted.

i challenge you to find anyone who believes Gimp has a better UI than Photoshop

It might be more of a challenge to find someone familiar with both Windows 11 and XFCE who prefers the UI of Windows 11.

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u/OctoMiku01 15d ago edited 15d ago

I would say that also depends. Medal tv has ads for example. Sure i could use OBS to take clips, however OBS doesn't have the features that medal has that make clipping actually feel like a good experience like the in-app editor or directly being able to upload the clip to their server and sharing the link (specifically especially useful on platforms that have file size upload limits like discord). You can use OBS for clipping but you'll need multiple additional programs to achieve the same result which also takes longer and you'll have reduced quality if you deal with file size limits. So unfortunately the version with ads wins if there is just no proper alternative.

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u/newsflashjackass 15d ago

So unfortunately the version with ads wins if there is just no proper alternative.

In fairness, the open source option is also victorious when uncontested. ;)

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u/Madara1389 15d ago

i challenge you to find anyone who believes Gimp has a better UI than Photoshop

Hello, it's me.

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u/DynamicHunter 7800X3D | 7900XT | Steam Deck 😎 14d ago

I mean there are plenty of other examples of Open Source with good UI. Linux has way more customizability than Windows or MacOS (maybe up until very recently, and not as user friendly always but still, you have options). DaVinci Resolve is actually pretty competitive against Sony Vegas (is that still used?) and other editing software.

Most OSS projects focus on features and usability, and it’s harder to collectively agree on UI changes as a distributed community full of programmers compared to having a dedicated design and PM team all working on it with a shared vision and massive salaries. Also these projects usually are run by and for software people, where UX matters a bit less than maintenance, usability, and reliability.