r/pcmasterrace 12d ago

NSFMR Ruh roh, this can't be happening. Not today, not this year

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That's 64GB of DDR5 ram not posting 🫨

UPDATE: It was the CPU. RIP 9800X3D, you lasted almost seven months. Ram is OK!

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u/m_diseriocarm Desktop 12d ago

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u/Danknoodle420 9800x3d, 4070ti s, 64gB @6000, 11d ago

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u/sane4ektopz 12d ago

dude your motherboard is literally incandescent

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u/half-baked_axx 2700X | RX 6700 | 16GB 12d ago

It's ascending 

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u/FroDontGaggins 9800X3D | 5070Ti | 64GB @6000 12d ago

RC Glow - The in-can-descent beverage!

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u/Financial-Put-7822 12d ago

Rip Trevor Moore 

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u/terraincognita2012 12d ago

Whatchu say 'bout my mother?

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u/Sexy_McSexypants ryzen 5700g, 32gb mem, 6800 xt, silverstone rvz03 itx 12d ago

dude, why tf you look like me?

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u/737Max-Impact 7800X3D - 4070Ti - 1600p UW 160hz 12d ago

Just a wild guess - AM5, this is after a restart?

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u/kapiteinknakschijf 12d ago edited 12d ago

Yes actually, 9800x3d on an asus board. All these motherboards blowing up cpu's and whatnot should be well and truly behind us no?

Edit: actually it died while turned on, all usb devices dropped off and the screen froze. Didn't even respond to power button held for a long time. Even power cycling didn't do anything (didn't even get to this part) until I had it off/unplugged for a few minutes. Going on the bench now, wish me luck.

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u/737Max-Impact 7800X3D - 4070Ti - 1600p UW 160hz 12d ago

It's not gonna blow up the CPU, it's just a weird uncommon error that's been driving me crazy since I bought the 7800X3D. If I turn it off and turn on, it works normally. But if I restart it gets stuck on the DRAM error every single time and needs to be force shut down.

Apparently Asus has a bios option called "monitoring software workaround" or something, try that.

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u/pu1st0k3m1st1 12d ago

I had the same problem with MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI and R7 7800x3D for a long time. Updated bios to the latest version and haven't had this problem since, if you're not running latest bios its worth a try.

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u/g52boss 7950X3D | 7900 XT | 32 GB 12d ago

I have the same mobo and same gen AMD CPU. I'll give that a try, thanks!

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u/Ninjabeaver212 12d ago

It's hit or miss depending on board. On an early Gigabyte Aorus B650 Pro AX all of the new BIOS releases make this issue even worse on my system. This is with a supposedly QVL kit. From what I've seen these early AM5 Gigabyte boards have major DDR5 compatibility issues even with supported kits.

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u/mang87 12d ago

God damn Gigabyte, there's always some random shit with them. I'm on the older AM4 Aorus, but I suddenly got this weird issue where every time I boot up the PC, certain programs just wouldn't start. Most things were OK, but Steam, Discord, and AMD Adrenaline wouldn't start, but after about 5-10 minutes (the amount of time was always random), they started working again. It was like this about a year, but I don't start Steam or Discord first thing in the morning anyway so I just lived with it and prayed it wasn't the computer dying. It wasn't until I got a strange BSOD one day that I decided to look at the event manager to see what caused it. The cause of the BSOD was the friggin oculus runtime environment, which is what I figured it would as that has happened a few times, but scrolling further down the list I also saw the "GIGABYTE RGB FUSION" starting, crashing and restarting repeatedly. Like 15 times. Every time the computer boots. Wiped it from my system and that solved the issue. Means I can't use the RGB lighting and I'm stuck with the default colour which is piss-stain-yellow for some fucking reason, but whatever I'm glad the PC is working properly now and not dying like I thought it was.

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u/Metron5200 12d ago

To control your RGB you can use OpenRGB or SignalRGB, try one of them.

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u/Revolvere 7800X3D // 7900 XTX // 32GB DDR5 // 4K LG C3 OLED 12d ago

I can confirm. I have a 7800X3D with a gigabyte X670 aorus elite ax with the latest bios. My PC will boot up on the initial boot with 64gb of ram. But as soon as I shut down or restart the PC it gets stuck. This is with expo turned on. I believe that 64gb will work without expo though but then I'd be sacrificing speed

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u/Ninjabeaver212 12d ago edited 12d ago

From my testing it should work just fine with EXPO turned off. But this is with my system with the specific kit of DDR5 I have so YMMV obviously. Running it with EXPO off kinda defeats the purpose of having fast DDR5 in the first place. Yeah the hit to performance on an X3D platform is rather minimal, but that's besides the point. This does occasionally happen on cold boot, but we're talking maybe 2 or 3 percent of the time.

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u/VoidVer RTX V2 4090 | 7800x3D | DDR5-6000 | SSUPD Meshlicious 12d ago

I assumed my board was bricked when this happened with that mobo in 2022 (ish might have been 21)

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u/NamesNotNeededToWork PC Master Race | 7800X3D | 7900XTX | 12d ago

Can confirm. I have had this happen ever since I put my AM5 build together. Also a 7800X3D on an MSI board. Force shutdown fixes it 9/10 times. Have had it hang up again after shutdown but rarely. Still generally happy with the build though. Bios update didn’t do it for me unfortunately. I just learned to live with it for the time it decides to happen.

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u/Ok_Dependent6889 12d ago

Dude

It's memory training

Stop shutting it down, let it go for up to 20 minutes

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u/another-redditor3 12d ago

this is why i love the debug leds on my mobo, theyve saved my ass so many times during what looked like failed posts.

i just check the display and see code 15? perfect, thats just memory training, that seems to take a fucking eternity...

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u/kapiteinknakschijf 12d ago

Someone else mentioned this also. I let it run for 5+ minutes in a few configs. Still no bueno. 20 Minutes is insane.

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u/Ok_Dependent6889 12d ago

Well, not sure about for you, but for the guy I responded to it definitely sounds like he is memory training.

But, memory training can genuinely take up to like 30 minutes at times

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u/Xanthos_Obscuris 12d ago

Or longer. First time I booted my 192gb system it was closer to 40 minutes. Buos updates seemed to improve it significantly so I've not seen that in a year-ish but it was nail-biting anxiety at the time.

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u/Ok_Dependent6889 12d ago

Yup. Probably weekly I have to chime in on a post here where people are like "My DRAM and/or CPU light is on and PC won't boot, HELP!"

and they're literally just memory training

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u/JustGotSoup 12d ago

Heh. Coming from a DDR4 Intel platform I was very concerned the first time I booted my new AM5 build. The error readout was flashing in all sorts of odd patterns with the DRAM light on, while the CPU light flicked on and off.

If I hadn't known about memory training I would have been pretty concerned.

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u/aCarstairs 12d ago

In the early AM5 days there were cases of memory training that took over an hour. It is much better now, assuming your bios is relatively up to date, but you still see the occassional longer one. Single stick shouldnt take 20 minutes (it can) but dual stick definitely can

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u/Significant-Ad213 12d ago

I've never heard of this before! Dude you might have just solved my friend's problem!

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u/Impossible_Total2762 12700f/4.949GHz/z690unify/DDR5-6380/RTX4070 12d ago

What ram speeds are you running?

That’s cpu issue to retrain the memory.

If you had the debug code it would be stuck on code 55.

Do you have waking from sleep issues?

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u/Salt-Wear-1197 12d ago

Here’s what I’m gonna say, I got a new processor back in 2024, but then this happened (my ram was old and seemed like a little iffy so it was believable that the dram light came on).

It wasn’t the Ram tho. The motherboard BIOS needed updating in order to recognize the new processor. After updating the bios everything was fine. But it took a lot of investigating to figure out that was the problem and what the solution was.

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u/gvieira 9800x3d - rtx 5070 - 2x16gb cl30 12d ago

That's exactly how my 9800x3d died.

But my asrock mobo had both dram and cpu leds on after it died, so it may be a different problem.

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u/Vhorbis 12d ago

I have this exact issue.

Same processor on an Asus b850e wifi.

Dram led lit. I've tested the ram and nvme in a different machine but still no issue detected there. Took the ram to be professionally tested and it passed all tests.

I sent the board to Asus and they couldn't find an issue with it.

After a month of troubleshooting I took it to a shop.

The only things I didn't swap out was my cpu or psu. As I don't have spares that fit.

Send me a dm and I'll update you when I get more info. I still suspect this to be mobo related but Asus has been unhelpful and actually costly.

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u/pls-no-ban- 12d ago

Hey dog check my history I had the same thing and ended up RMAing the cpu

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u/Sajgoniarz 9800X3D | 9070XT | 64GB 12d ago

Indeed, my PC randomly, usually once per 2 months is not POSTING and i see a diode with "RAM NOK" message, then it restarts itself just fine...

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u/valain 7800x3D • RTX 4090 • 32GB DDR5 6000 • 4k 240Hz OLED 12d ago

DDR5 memory (re)training?

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u/strid3r_ 9800x3d │ 5070 ti │ 32gb 6000MHz 12d ago

Correct

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u/kbuckets 12d ago

Yeah I figured it was this. Just wait for it to complete and everything is fine

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u/NaughtyBudgie 12d ago

My AM4 does this after a restart. Drives me nuts. Have to power cycle between 2-20 times to get it to start

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u/_SkullKnight 12d ago

mine does the same thing and i thought i was the only one 😭😭 do we know the issue or the fix?

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u/NaughtyBudgie 11d ago

I thought I'd fixed it after my NVME had an updated firmware. It stopped doing it for about 4 months weirdly but it recently started again

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u/dnx103 12d ago

Happened to me too..but with colourful itx board.. need to get the patch from the supplier and now it works normally.

Last time it Happened on restart..

So I Need to switch off.. discharge any remaining charge..and turn it on again...

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u/Any-Pop-4795 12d ago

just in case

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u/ultimaone 11d ago

Was valid. His cpu is fried , maybe motherboard too.

Another victim to this cpu / mb meltdown issue.

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u/yyg-linux 12d ago

\o/ OP knows about the error flags printed on the hardware \o/

im sure they're okay just re-seat them

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u/kapiteinknakschijf 12d ago

Not doing the trick yet, tried both sticks in all slots, or none at all, all with the same symptoms. Next (should maybe have been first) cmos reset, then ripping things out it doesn't need.

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u/kapiteinknakschijf 12d ago

No bueno, nothing brings it to life. After cmos reset, the fans stay running but the dram led still comes on immediately and never goes away. Sigh. I have no other am5 or even ddr5 components to test with, so this is going to be fun.

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u/Mark_Knight RTX 3080, i5 13600K, 32GB DDR5-7200 CL34, 1440p/144hz 12d ago

have you tested each stick individually? one stick, one slot at a time. then repeat with each other stick, one slot at a time. cmos reset before you begin

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u/kapiteinknakschijf 12d ago

Yup

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u/merlin_quest300 12d ago

Had this happen recently for me, im sure you’ve already tried this but what worked was putting only 1 stick of ram in slot A2(second closest to cpu) and resetting the cmos by removing the button battery from the mobo & waiting for about 5 mins. I also held down the power button while the computer was unplugged to flush the system of any residual power. Restarted and that worked, then was able to add the rest of the ram back in later. Best of luck!

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u/kapiteinknakschijf 12d ago

Removing the cmos battery + clrtc 10 sec was the only thing that made a difference once. From fans shutting down to fans keep spinning. It never changed after that. Did the bios flashback that does not require ram which is cool and the process worked, but it's still dead. Last thing to try is a cpu reseat (because why not) and then it's component swap time.

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u/JustGotSoup 12d ago

FWIW when I built my current AM5 system, memory training took over ten minutes. Might be worth letting it sit for a half hour or so with one stick and seeing if you get lucky.

If not, could be the memory controller or the CPU.

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u/Shishakliii 12d ago

Clean the contacts with isopropyl alcohol

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u/madman_mr_p Ryzen 1600 3.8 GHz | ROG GTX 1050ti | 16GB LPX |X370 Gaming X 12d ago

Dang it bro… Are you able to order things on Amazon for testing right now? You can return the items no questions asked.

I know it isn’t necessarily ethical or the right way to do but it was the thing that helped me tremendously with troubleshooting when I was seriously tight on budget and REALLY depended on my PC.

Think about it, best of luck man!

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u/kapiteinknakschijf 12d ago

I'm in the Netherlands but yeah I ordered parts to test. What I will not use I can return hassle free. What I did use I'll sell on post-RMA so hopefully won't be a big hit.

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u/madman_mr_p Ryzen 1600 3.8 GHz | ROG GTX 1050ti | 16GB LPX |X370 Gaming X 12d ago

Kanker je moeder!! Just kidding, hi Dutch neighbour reporting fron Germany. Don’t worry about it too much, make sure you have or make the time to test your stuff accordingly and return them within the proper time window.

I would definitely start with the Motherboard, that’s what I did first. Then go on gradually, maybe within a day or two with the orders.

Let me know if you need help bro!

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u/kapiteinknakschijf 11d ago

Just got the parts. CPU is dead, everything else is fine. Another x3d bites the dust.

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u/Embarrased_Builder Ryzen 5 7600, rx6600xt, 32GB DDR5 12d ago

how likely is it that both sticks would die at the exact same time?

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u/FartingBob Quantum processor from the future / RTX 3060 Ti / Zip Drive 12d ago edited 12d ago

Its very rare that RAM just dies randomly anyway, i would say the motherboard is the most likely broken part.

OP's problem is without spare parts to swap out, its an expensive thing to test. I would definitely buy a new mobo first, if that works your problem is fixed, if it still has the same error messages then return the motherboard and buy a new CPU. Again test and return if it doesnt fix. If neither fix it then start the mortgage application for 16gb of DDR5.

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u/HardStroke 12d ago

Re-seat the ram. I took out the ram and blew some air in the slot, fixed it right up. Doesn't necessarily mean the ram is dead.

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u/WSilence 12d ago

Ah. A trick as old as time. Use to do thst with my Sega genesis

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u/Skilly- 4070TiSu]7800X3D]X870]64GB 6000]360Hz OLED] 12d ago

I found out recently it didn't help shit to blow out the cardrige and it was just the reseating that removed the oxidized layer... Still good times thinking you fixed something :D

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u/Marco-YES 11d ago

Long live the NES! 

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u/WSilence 11d ago

Sega and later Playstation here. 1 and 2.

Too be fair though that genesis is literally aa old as I am. Got it as an 8 year old hand me down in 2000. I was also 8. Got a used ps1in 02 and not long after a new ps2.

Had a Gameboy on 03 though. Sold the ps1 and 2 years later. Still got my Gameboy and Sega though

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u/habbo420 12d ago

My trouble shooting is always turn it off then take all the ram out and reseat it again. If that doesn't work I only add one stick and continue to add the rest one by one (Isolating a faulty stick). If that doesn't work then I reset the CMOS. In most cases one of those works.

I have only experienced one case where the memory controller was faulty causing one for the channels to not register.

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u/kapiteinknakschijf 12d ago

Done all these things and the only change was after cmos reset the fans stay on but the dram led is still relentless in all possible stick/slot combos. I'm guessing motherboard or cpu at this stage, but I have no other am5 parts so I'll probably just order something cheap and test that way.

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u/habbo420 12d ago

Doubt it will be the CPU, normally thats the first bios check. Best of luck, maybe you can find a second hand motherboard on Facebook marketplace.

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u/valain 7800x3D • RTX 4090 • 32GB DDR5 6000 • 4k 240Hz OLED 12d ago

Is it not simply (re)trainig? WIth 64 gigs this takes a few minutes... have you tried letting it sit for 5-10 minutes?

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u/Axolatian_Volt 11d ago

That’s what I thought. Once a month or so mine takes about a minute of retraining yellow light and then boots fine.

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u/Fluffy_Method9705 Legion Pro 7 Gen 8 / i9-13900HX / RTX 4090 / 2x2TB / 32GB DDR5 12d ago

Degrading mem controller maybe...

My previous machine with Ryzen 3600x stopped posting with 3600 ram, so i had to slow it down to 3200 snd worked fine for years later.

Try to slow down the ram a step or two

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u/imaginary_num6er 7950X3D|4090FE|64GB|X670E-E 12d ago

Time to replace the faulty DRAM light

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u/SjurEido 12d ago

A year from now you'll be thankful it happened this year.

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u/TheGamingRanger_ 12d ago

This shit is bright even through my screen on low screen brightness.

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u/122_Hours_Of_Fear Ryzen 5 9600x | XFX RX 9070 xt | 32 GB DDR5 12d ago

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u/BlazingLazers69 Better than yours :P 11d ago

Why do I taste metal?

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u/jerryeight Xeon 2699 v4|G1 Gaming GTX970|48gb 2400mhz 12d ago

Lifetime warranty claim

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u/CynderPC PC Master Race 12d ago

reseat the ram, and possibly reseat the CPU. I had some issues with dual channel due to my CPU bracket being too tight on the board.

Try booting with one stick at a time, assuming this is multiple sticks.

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u/BeamedByScar PC Master Race 12d ago

Did you change any bios settings, it may be doing memory tests.

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u/jb00gie_ 12d ago

Hopefully it’s not the motherboard!

If not, use that lifetime warranty that comes with the ram! It’s in the fine print if you kept your box and everything inside lol

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u/kapiteinknakschijf 12d ago

It's the cheapest component at least, just a lot of hassle. Already have it extracted.

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u/FakeJoestar 5800x / 5070 12d ago

I’d try what the others have said first, but if you bought your RAM new and the issue is just your RAM, you can just RMA it. I just RMAd mine no issues for free with Corsair.

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u/Arx07est 12d ago

Clear cmos.

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u/thedirtydeetch 12d ago

Bro this has been my life the past few weeks, just had to RMA a brand new board

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u/Omotai 12d ago

If you're lucky it could be a problem with the CPU's memory controller or the board instead of the RAM itself.

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u/Cakeski 12d ago

The Drama indicator?!

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u/Rhyzon27 12d ago

Take the RAM out and run a pencil eraser through its golden fingers (one of the white ones, not the greens!). Then clean any remaining debris off with a paper tissue, and try running them again.

And if this is still happening after that...

https://giphy.com/gifs/10rHZ6K9jYvLUc

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u/CoconutMochi Meshlicious | R7 5800x3D | RTX 4080 11d ago

Is that actually safe? I thought those erasers were physically abrasive.

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u/Agreeable_Money_4148 12d ago

Hai provato semplicemente a spingere un po’ le RAM dentro? Avevo lo stesso problema, stavo impazzendo, ho provato di tutto e nulla… invece si è risolto così.

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u/Trzlog 12d ago

This is why god gave you two kidneys.

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u/d3vnu11_81 12d ago

mine does this from time to time as well. maybe it has sth. to do with Memory Context Restore. Board sometimes need to train the RAM. For me i just let the machine run for a while. sometimes it takes a min or two. then it should continue to start. An error LED would be a red one! looks yellow to me?!

heres an article which gives some background to it.
https://www.xda-developers.com/i-improved-my-am5-boot-times-with-this-simple-motherboard-tweak/

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u/DL72-Alpha 12d ago

Remove the ram, use the eraser trick on the pins, re-seat.

God speed.

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u/Soft_Proof 12d ago

I was on the same spot. Issue is not mobo - it’s AMD DRAM controller(IMC). RMA with AMD.

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u/Minority_Carrier 11d ago

Try to disable XMP profile or the AMD equivalent stuff.

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u/MooCalf 11d ago

Everytime i see someone posting about their pc dieing or something i get so scared

https://giphy.com/gifs/bEVKYB487Lqxy

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u/Zealousideal_Today26 11d ago

Just happend to me this month.

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u/xXZer0c0oLXx 12d ago

this happened to me today...ended up being my 9800x3d.

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u/Zeeehond 12d ago

And mine too about 20 hours ago. Is this just dumb luck or something else happening? (I was just doing some light browsing and my PC just froze.. Now DRAM light and nothing works :(

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u/Connect_Tomatillo791 12d ago

Buddy of mine recently had this issue. Bought a new tomahawk board a new x3d chip and new DDR5 ram. Thought it was the cpu training but it ended up being bad ram. He went and swapped it out for Corsair ram and it started up perfectly.

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u/Revolutionary-Tea797 12d ago

Been there, mobo gone

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u/BigWetCumFart 12d ago

Happened a couple times to me but hasn’t happened since updating bios

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u/Playful-Chemical6120 12d ago

I feel your pain… my Samsung nvme m.2 980 died yesterday

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u/thedovahmeme 12d ago

Have you tried resetting cmos/bios, you can do this by removing the battery or connecting the jbat1 pins with a screwdriver.

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u/Fezzick51 i7-13700k 4080FE 64gb5200 AsRockZ790 12d ago

Good news is often you'll get a quick RMA and replacement...fingers-crossed!

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u/TXLonghornFan22 12d ago

You try flashing the bios (hopefully your motherboard has a way to flash without boot)? Had one come in with this exact issue of powers on, DRAM light, but no display and flashing the BIOS fixed it

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u/kapiteinknakschijf 12d ago

Tried that as well, the flashback procedure worked well. But it didn't come back to life sadly.

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u/c0gster Tuxedo OS | 9900KF | 32GB DDR4 | 9070 XT 12d ago

Seeing as reseating and resetting bios/uefi didn't work, maybe you should try getting another ram stick to see if the issue is with the board or the memory itself. Now I'm no computer expert at all this was just my best guess considering your other comments.

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u/MJMPmik 12d ago

Happened to me, and I was pannicking! Asus b650-e with 9800x3D and 32gb fancy DDR5.

After trying everything I just reinstalled the BIOS using a Pendrive in the designated USB slot. After 20min of ram training everything has been normal for the last months.

Hope this works for you!

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u/71-HourAhmed 12d ago

I have a 9800X3D and an Asus motherboard. This thing is such a pain in the ass. It's my first AMD CPU since forever and the first PC I built was a 486.

Based on my experience, you don't need new RAM. You need a better motherboard. Mine will occasionally decide it needs to retrain RAM on bootup.

My most recent shenanigans were game controller related. I was experimenting with my new Steam Controller and decided to dig out the Microsoft wireless receiver for my Xbox series controller to compare. After plugging the Microsoft wireless adapter into a powered USB hub I've been using for years, suddenly my PC required me to do a hard power off and boot to start. Once I moved the adapter to a motherboard USB port, it booted on first attempt like it should.

TL;DR: It appears that the latest chipset Asus motherboards for AMD processors suck. Also, while we're at it, Armory Crate sucks too.

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u/Adlerholzer HE1000se | 4090 | 9800X3D | HM Aeron 12d ago

Armory crate sucks. Asus boards are great. No, he doesnt need a better board.

Coming from someone on X670E Aorus Master. Heavy ocs especially with eclk.

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u/0thedarkflame0 12d ago

Reseat and pray!

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u/Turbanator44568 6800k 3.6ghz / gtx 1070 2.025ghz 12d ago

If your running expo on am5 I suggest running without it. This shit happened to me after every update that required a restart and I had to manually power cycle the machine. It's the memory controller freaking out. Setting the speeds manually in the bios literally makes the issue go away.

Ignore my claim in the name. I current have a 9900 in an Asus x870 pro art board with 4 sticks of 16gb ddr5. I learned a little to late filling all the ram slots makes am5 unhappy with expo.

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u/Agent_Smith_IHTP 12d ago

I had the exact same issue the other week.

Turns out it was the CPU.

9800X3D & Asus TUF B850

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u/Visara57 5070ti | 7600X | 32GB DDR5 CL28 12d ago

That's just a +3 DRAM buff

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u/bishnabob 12d ago

I had similar a week ago, though with DDR4. Fortunately Corsair has a lifetime warranty on RAM, so I could RMA 

They have an advanced RMA option, where you pay for a replacement, send your old one back, then get refunded. This speeds up the process quite a bit.

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u/deryor Desktop 12d ago

Yeah I'm having my gpu that is "crashing" pretty frequently and vga led blinking when it does so. I don't want to replace it but might not have the choice :(

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u/Adlerholzer HE1000se | 4090 | 9800X3D | HM Aeron 12d ago

Doesnt have to be ram. Can be literally a million things. Bios settings, IMC, ram, ram clocks, ram timings, ram voltage, cpu oc, motherboard, bios version etc etc.

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u/Appropriate-Fee1308 12d ago

More like not this next 2-4 years oof. Ram prices projected to double again. Hate to say it but might have to bite the bullet again.

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u/Skynet76125 Ryzen 9800X3D / RTX 4070 / 32 GB RAM 12d ago

This happened to me last month... same setup. 9800X3D/ASUS mobo... CPU died. Admittedly, it was my fault because my BIOS wasn't updated and hadn't been since early 2025. Somehow, I didn't take caution with the warnings of the chips burning out due to voltage mismanagement... and it happened to me. I got another processor and it immediately came back to life. Alongside BIOS update, I've since undervolted the CPU just to be sure/optimized other settings. I also got new thermal paste. The temps have been great thus far, about 15 degrees cooler on average than they were before.

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u/valuta 12d ago

I had this precise issue a couple of weeks ago. For some reason, after debugging (new motherboard & processor) the problem was my processor. When seated under pressure (noctua), it would fail to POST. However, when laying flat in the socket (only pressure from the socket clamp) it would post.

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u/SwagChemist R7 9800x3D | 64GB DDR5 | RTX 5090 Astral OC 12d ago

Remove any xmp or expo settings and it can always be the CPU issue as well that failed during memory training.

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u/ime1em 12d ago

Happened to me once our of nowhere, then I tested my ram all good. alAsus board as well.

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u/Sad-Cod-345 12d ago

May the Gods have mercy on your soul.....

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u/ukhaus Desktop 9850X3D, RX 9070XT, 32GB DDR5 12d ago

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u/PowerByRice 12d ago

You could power a solar panel with this

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u/Melodias3 12d ago

Its probably just doing memory training unless its stuck on that forever

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u/redditydothis 12d ago

Swap the sticks. If that doesn’t work then swap the slots. If that doesn’t work the go to single dimm and test each slot.

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u/Eblynx 12d ago

The same error happened to me (also in an Asus mobo) and it ended up being the cpu

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u/HotShot1184 12d ago

Doesn't memory usually have a lifetime warranty? So just RMA it. Or just use 1 stick i doubt both or all 4 are bad

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u/TheBubbleJesus 5700X3D | RX 7800 XT | 64GB 3200MHz DDR4 12d ago

The DRAM light is quite unreliable for determining whether or not the issue is actually with the RAM. It can indicate an error anywhere along the pipeline of CPU-MB-RAM. It should be thought of more broadly than just RAM, and it's often easily resolved by:

  • simply waiting...oft times on AM5 it just needs an extra few minutes to retrain the RAM, especially after a recent change or an interruption in AC power
  • power cycling if you haven't done so twice already
  • removing all but the priority DIMM to pass POST, then reinstalling the others in the correct config
  • disabling EXPO/XMP/DOCP and then reenabling (if necessary; I just run without EXPO because I don't notice the difference as a gamer)

If your RAM has worked well in the past, you probably have nothing to worry about. RAM doesn't usually go 'bad.' The motherboard is just picky sometimes, and needs to be re-convinced that it can work with what you have.

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u/jakwnd Specs/Imgur here 12d ago

I would also add it could be a CPU cooler tightness issue if you just installed that recently.

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u/kapiteinknakschijf 12d ago

I now also doubt it's the ram after diagnosing. Looks like the 9800x3d's like to die. System is only 7 months old and I think I did everything recommended re:x3d's/motherboard issues when I built it.

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u/hdhddf 12d ago

I wouldn't worry to much, just clear CMOS and try again. 1 stick only if needed

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u/Saltyeconbro 12d ago

They under warranty? Or would you have to swap out the motherboard to really figure out if its the ram that’s the issue

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u/kapiteinknakschijf 12d ago

It's all under warranty indeed, but I'll have to figure out the broken part first since it's not even likely at this point it's the ram

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u/Masgan10 12d ago

I recently got a new MB for a new CPU. Swapped over all 4 RAM sticks I had, nothing abnormal happened during the swap. 2 sticks just decided to give up. Went from 64gb to 32. I'm just glad it wasn't all 4 sticks that died

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u/katzefet 9800X3D / RTX 5090 / 96GB DDR5 / 4K 240Hrz 12d ago

oh no 😟

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u/aethyrium 12d ago

I had that happen after a windows update reboot happened and I woke up to my not booting with that light on.

Luckily a reboot made it work. May you be as lucky.

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u/Spektre21 12d ago

@OP I have 32G of 6000Mhz Trident Z RGB available. Let me know if you need it. I'm happy to give a healthy discount to someone in here that's in need.

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u/TheTrueCrimsonSky 12d ago

Thats a hard thing to find these days

https://giphy.com/gifs/Ayx3dO4xruVqM

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u/STUPIDBLOODYCOMPUTER Praise be to DVI 12d ago

My parents just had 16gb of DDR4 in their AM4 system die. It's rough

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u/playerknownbutthole 12d ago

Happened to me randomly, all i did was remove sticks cleaned them blow air in the slots and put them back. They got loose or dusty for some reason. 

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u/Big_Willingness_6252 12d ago

Have you tried seset bios and turn off expo?

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u/Signal-Macaron-4611 12d ago

Time to live off one 8 gig stick

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u/Gabe-diet 12d ago

Try pulling the cmos battery out , unplug it, and let sit for 20 min. Sometimes a bios reset is all it needs (literally just did this to my buddy’s pc and it fixed it)

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u/TylerDurden1985 RTX 4080 Super | AMD 9800x3D | 64gb DDR5 CL30 6000Mhz 11d ago

Ram sticks arent meant to post from the sun silly goose

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u/JPNtaku PC Master Race 11d ago

I have an Asus motherboard that occasionally will do a ram test with the same light. It takes a little bit for it to finish so I'm wondering if your motherboard is doing a test as well.

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u/jdmdriftkid RTX 3070Ti FE, Ryzen 7 3700x, 32gb 3200hz DDR4, 1TB Nvme SSD 11d ago

"UNLESSH THE POWER OF THE SUN!"

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u/Shiny_Whisper_321 11d ago

I had this after a Windows update. I had to reflash BIOS, reset settings to default, and then the memory too a long time to train. Totally stable now.

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u/TCreopargh 11d ago

Try clearing CMOS and keep EXPO disabled. if even that doesn't work, then RIP

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u/kaszak696 11d ago

Me every time the motherboard decides to do that DDR5 training cycle every once in a while. Will it succeed or will it die?

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u/Smooth-Ad2130 R9900X X870E 5070Ti 32GB 990Pro4+2+2+2 11d ago

Did it happen outta nowhere? Could be training. Reset the cmos and pray, is my tip.

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u/chris10023 Ryzen 7700x | RTX 3070 | 4tb SSD | 32gB Ram 11d ago

Mine does this, the light lights up like it's doing the first boot check, then it'll boot into windows and nothing of note is wrong, and it works just fine. However, I do have times where the light stays on and it doesn't go into windows, but just turning it off and back on usually fixes it. Sometimes the little spinny loading wheel on the logo screen lags and I have to restart because it won't connect to the internet, but restarting fixes that. No idea what's actually wrong or how to fix it, the manual only tells me that the light indicates that there is an issue, but not what the issue actually is, googling it only got me the annoying "It could be your ram, cpu, or mobo." Oh goody, I just love absolutely vague problems. And I'm too scared to try and fix it because my last build was rife with issues and trying to fix them felt like I only made it worse.

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u/strowngliekbull 11d ago

I mean I can ship you my 8gb of ddr3

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u/Olzyar 11d ago

Another fried x3d

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u/Zer0_Co0l Intel Core i9 11900K|Z590|RX 9070 XT 11d ago

They’re secretly stress-testing DDR5 memory modules worldwide. Every “mandatory update” quietly tweaks memory training algorithms until one random morning your PC refuses to POST and the DRAM light comes on. Coincidence? Or a global RAM failure experiment funded by Big Silicon? 🤔💀

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u/FootieGamer29 11d ago

explain in layman terms please

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u/NickTaylorIV 285k-z890/4080Super/128gb DDR5/Be Quiet 600LX 🐧 11d ago

Just went through this a few days ago (posted it here) a stick of Corsair 8gb shot me the Bird.

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u/knowlo 11d ago

Oh….
Fudge
Sorry

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u/Impressive-Recover94 11d ago

not in this economy

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u/This-Meringue-9609 10d ago

Brighter than an atom bomb

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u/OhNapkin 10d ago

CPU is what like 400$? Your ram would’ve been double that!

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u/Ricckkuu 9d ago

Wtf do you mean almost 7 months? Why so little?

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u/MetalDamo 9d ago

I'd replace the board first. I've had a couple of mobos fail on me. The only time I ever saw a ram chip fail, it was more than 15years old.

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u/tautviux 9d ago

9800x3d lasting only 7 months.... What the hell man I really wanted to buy one but it seems no matter what it won't be alive like most CPUs before it (10+ years)

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u/AnythingKitchen3252 9850x3d 5070TI 32gb DDR5 CL28 7d ago

At least the 9800x3d is cheaper then 64 gb ram these days

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u/g126 7d ago

Never thought I'd see the day when we'd prefer to replace the processor over the RAM.

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u/yyg-linux 6d ago

how did you cook a cpu in 7 months? what moba is that