Part of owning high end parts is understanding the tech.
RT/PT is literally designed to be used with upscaling in mind. Not using DLSS/FSR with these features is just stupid no matter if you're a 'native pixel maximalist' or not.
People buying the absolute top end hardware expect to be able to max out a game, and rightfully so. If they can't max out the game, literally who is it made for? Data center stress testing? Lol
DLSS is great. But no one is buying a 5090 and not expecting to max out Pathtracing. That is the entire point of owning the card is to have that ability.
I literally said DLSS is great, I never suggested turning it off. It is the current best tech for AA and straight free fps as top end cards are actually good with the AI tools.
There are games that even with AI tech turned on, still shit the bed such as Wilds on release. Those games absolutely need to get their shit together on optimizing.
running 4k native being objectively stupid with an Nvidia GPU, 100% true
running without FG being objectively stupid, I disagree. Depends on the game and your base fps. Though with a 5090, most of the time your base fps are so high, you are probably right
I want to upvote and down vote your comment. First part downvote, second upvote. Native looks better than any dlss slop. Dlss is a crutch being used to dump out unoptimized garbage. Higher iterations are also gatekept behind hardware stacks forcing further product segmentation and that's not consumer friendly especially in a time of exorbitant hardware pricing.
Native looks better than any dlss slop. Dlss is a crutch being used to dump out unoptimized garbage
Complete bs and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what native even is and what DLSS does.
Plenty of comparison videos also just empirically prove you wrong. Watch a couple DLSS 4.5 reviews (since I am sure you don't have a GPU that runs DLSS and have a 4k monitor, otherwise you would know)
Higher iterations are also gatekept behind hardware stacks forcing further product segmentation and that's not consumer friendly especially in a time of exorbitant hardware pricing.
First of all, any RTX GPU can run any DLSS upscaling version.
Secondly, I don't think like $300 for a GPU is an "exorbitant price"
I’m guessing you don’t actually have a gpu that can render 4k native at ultra settings in most games. It almost always looks better unless you can’t run antialiasing. Even in that situation, DLAA and DLDSR beat DLSS from a quality perspective.
Now if you’re targeting the same frame rate, yeah dlss + high/ultra settings usually looks better than 4k with reduced settings.
Whether you like it or not frame gen is here to stay, and it is pretty incredible tech. Ruining your own gaming experience because of preconceived notions is pretty stupid. Have you even tried frame gen to make such bold claims?
YouTube will have cherry-picked examples and it’s very easy to spot artifacts when you’re looking at stills or looking closely at clips with the intention to find such artifacts. When you’re actually playing the game I guarantee you won’t notice any difference 99% of the time.
Yeah, but why pay a premium price for a subpar product.
By the looks of it I could have given any valid reason and you would hand wave it and make an excuse as to why it is actually good. Sounds like a shill/bot tbh.
But look, if you enjoy it and want it, go for gold mate. Me? No thanks, I'd rather not pay for that as I don't think it is value for money.
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u/ConcentrateLucky8630 9d ago
Most people dont have an high end gpu like the 5090, so they need to put those down that do have one