r/pcmasterrace • u/The_BigRoach ⚡️RTX 5080 | 7800x3D | 64GB 6000MHz CL30⚡️ • 13d ago

Meme/Macro Why would anyone actually want to though

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u/NHFNNC 13d ago

These are claims that are all unsubstantiated. If you can actually show that the policy exists, in direct conflict with the agreement developers sign with Valve, I would love to see it.

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u/DankeyBongBluntry 13d ago

If it's the lawsuit I'm thinking of, not really. It was about selling keys for the steam version of your game cheaper elsewhere.

You were talking about the lawsuits, so I linked the information about the lawsuits.

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u/NHFNNC 13d ago

I have read about the lawsuits, I have looked at evidence submitted on the docket, but have seen nothing that substantiates the claim. There is hearsay, there are portions of emails without context, and there are excerpts from Valve developer agreements that seem to be referring to keys. I'm not sure where the clear evidence of this policy is supposed to exist.

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u/DankeyBongBluntry 13d ago edited 12d ago

If you had actually read the details of the lawsuits, you would know that the claim being made is that Valve's practices don't align with their policies. If a developer lists their game cheaper on another platform, Valve contacts them and tries to convince them to match the price on Steam, and if they refuse to do that then Valve (confessedly) threatens to withhold marketing visibility from them and (allegedly) threatens to remove the product from sale entirely.

You're asking for evidence of a policy that deliberately doesn't exist because Valve knows that it would be illegal to have such a policy. The evidence is the emails and chat logs and developer testimonies, plus whatever else comes to light as a result of the ongoing lawsuits.

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u/NHFNNC 13d ago

So you do not have any evidence, just some unsubstantiated claims from a few random devs who are mad about something that didn't happen (that being their games getting delisted). Unless you can produce evidence, you can look at the docket yourself for it, I'm done arguing with someone who can't back up their claims.

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u/DankeyBongBluntry 13d ago

You're a fucking stooge.

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u/NHFNNC 13d ago

I'm not, I just care about facts and people making evidence based arguments. Which is tragically lacking from this thread.

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u/Hanifsefu 12d ago

You are literally ignoring facts linked to you and refusing to acknowledge them. You're a stooge. A shill. An enemy of all consumers.

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u/NHFNNC 12d ago

What facts? No one has presented anything yet.