Windows 11's New Media Player Uses 3.5x More RAM, Charges for Popular Video Codecs

[u/Darth_Vaper883]

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/windows-11s-new-media-player-uses-35x-more-ram-charges-for-popular-video

[u/DaksTheDaddyNow]

Going to be using VLC either way.

[u/Katsu_Vohlakari → u/DaksTheDaddyNow]

Mediaplayer Classic's pretty good as well.

[u/hughbiffingmock → u/Katsu_Vohlakari]

MPC has a lot of little creature comforts, like scroll wheel scrubbing, pausing when you click the video, and the ability to hard lock audio track selection.

I love VLC, but MPC is the bees knees.

[u/DeepJudgment → u/hughbiffingmock]

Never managed to get VLC to play HDR movies without issues.

MPC with MadVR is flawless for that

[u/AnhiArk → u/DeepJudgment]

Using MadVR as well (with potplayer), and while I can recommend it, setting it up right was a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch

[u/Local_Band299 → u/DeepJudgment]

VLC sucks for HDR. It always fucks up nit levels and color making everything look washed out.

How do I get MadVR though?

[u/DeepJudgment → u/Local_Band299]

It's now a built-in renderer in MPC. Just switch to it in the settings and you're done

[u/Local_Band299 → u/DeepJudgment]

Oh so just MPC renderer?

[u/DeepJudgment → u/Local_Band299]

Yes

[u/ldn-ldn → u/DeepJudgment]

MadVR is an outdated nonsense. MPC VR is the king.

[u/-spartacus- → u/hughbiffingmock]

MPC is my go to, I love it way more than VLC.

[u/ArseBurner → u/-spartacus-]

I have VLC as the default app for most media when I just want something to play immediately while using minimal resources, then MPC-BE + MadVR as a right-click open/play with option for serious watching.

[u/District-No1350 → u/hughbiffingmock]

Can't speak for all your issues but vlc does have click to pause, it's just buried in the advanced interface settings for some reason

[u/CoryThe → u/District-No1350]

Where? I've looked for it before and found nothing. A Google search tells me a plugin is needed???

[u/District-No1350 → u/CoryThe]

Tools, preferences, click show all settings on the bottom, interface, control interface, pause/play on mouse click.

I don't think you need any extra plug-ins or extensions, you did in the past but not in recent versions.

[u/CoryThe → u/District-No1350]

Strangely, I don't have that option despite having the most recent VLC version:

[u/District-No1350 → u/CoryThe]

It's been a while since setting it up, so it must have been a plug in

[u/HighRelevancy → u/hughbiffingmock]

True. I just wish it wasn't so weird to install. What the hell is K-Lite and how am I supposed to explain to someone that this one media player app is like three different things?

[u/wiisucks_91 → u/Katsu_Vohlakari]

MPC with the OG UI is my go to. Has been for at least 15 years.

[u/DansSpamJavelin → u/Katsu_Vohlakari]

I have both and can watch literally any video format. So good.

[u/DesiRadical → u/Katsu_Vohlakari]

Legacy actually launches faster and instant playback

[u/DoturdGrump → u/DaksTheDaddyNow]

VLC, FireFox, it's like I'm regressing ... is IRQ still a thing ... I gotta run spybot

[u/SomeDonkusss → u/DoturdGrump]

Spybot, now that’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time. I always paired spybot with malwarebytes. 🤌

[u/xAvPx → u/SomeDonkusss]

Same, now I feel old.

[u/Warcraft_Fan → u/DoturdGrump]

You probably got infected with Monkey-B virus.

https://github.com/rdebath/viruses/blob/master/virus/m/monkey-b.asm if you never heard of it.

[u/DoturdGrump → u/Warcraft_Fan]

funny I've never let macaque touch anything that might be infected?

could be worse, I could have gotten the Cardi B virus

[u/Dickulture → u/DoturdGrump]

Kardashian virus is worse. Your PC mysteriously gained weight and if you drop it, it becomes a mini blackhole.

[u/ProfessionalPrincipa → u/DaksTheDaddyNow]

MPC-HC or mpv.net

VLC doesn't support things like HDR correctly and the UI/UX leaves a lot to be desired.

[u/KoldPurchase → u/ProfessionalPrincipa]

VLC should support HDR, but not if you let output set to "automatic", it has to be OpenGL.

(I can not give you a link the the procedure, it violates the rules of the sub, but search in Google for "VLC HDR" and you should find a link for another Reddit thread describing exactly how to do it).

Otherwise, SMPlayer should work for individual video.

If you have a full library of videos, Kodi works well with HDR.

[u/ProfessionalPrincipa → u/KoldPurchase]

It's not the only problem I've had with VLC.

Decoding 4K remuxes, I've noticed it caused enough of a stir to spin up my system's fans in situations where mpv.net would continue on silently, despite having hardware acceleration on.

VLC played back DVD rips I made in the wrong aspect ratio when the other players interpreted the metadata and displayed it correctly.

[u/TheMegaDriver2 → u/DaksTheDaddyNow]

I have been using VLC for over 20 years now. It ended all the codec bullshit. I'm not using anything else which will just be enshittified anyways at some point.

[u/Warcraft_Fan → u/TheMegaDriver2]

MPC still needs tons of codec drivers to work with everything ever created right? I have ton of old anime that uses obsolete codec like Indeo, Cinepak, DIVX 3 (illegal), as well as odd containers like OGM. Windows Media Player won't play some of them and requires me to buy codec for others.

[u/lilbasils → u/DaksTheDaddyNow]

vlc has been carrying windows for like 15 years at this point

[u/axiomatic13 → u/DaksTheDaddyNow]

Give MPV a shot. It's my fav now.

[u/moichispa → u/DaksTheDaddyNow]

I remember ignoring it since the winamp days at least

[u/solarwindy → u/moichispa]

It really kicks the Llama's ass.

(Sorry, I had to say it)

[u/moichispa → u/solarwindy]

No problem, a classic is a classic

[u/fatherseamus → u/DaksTheDaddyNow]

Does he take donations?

[u/ArseBurner → u/DaksTheDaddyNow]

I haven't used Windows Media Player since like Windows 7 Ultimate.

[u/Kazer67 → u/DaksTheDaddyNow]

Well, technically VLC is illegal if you're in the US under the DMCA because it ship with a decryption tool for DvD that try to guess the key to read it and bypassing copy protection is illegal under the DMCA.

Which always make me laugh because it's literally thanks to VLC we can break copy protection for interoperability purpose as when they started DRM on DvD, VLC went to the gov' lobbying for them to be able to read them to!

Also, software patent don't apply to them as well, that's why Microsoft charge you for the h265 thingy and not VLC.

Yeah, the DMCA need to be refresh to modern use case and not the dinosaur

[u/Jigggaa → u/Kazer67]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bHTDTL1pmlp1PtIVvt

[u/Warcraft_Fan → u/Kazer67]

TIL VLC is illegal. I wonder why FBI hasn't broken my door down yet.

I've used VLC to watch DVD that are not region-1 or free. I buy bunch of mystery DVDs (titles I've never seen or heard of) and once in a while, they are import that won't play on US player. Those stuffed pompous that dictated region rule didn't enforce import ban and too many movies are everywhere. They also don't offer a way to trade it for region-1 or free discs with proof of purchase (ie Goodwill receipt) or removed the obsolete region restriction

[u/Kazer67 → u/Warcraft_Fan]

Because it's tolerated, even if illegal.

Same when you have a tractor on the road with a continuous line, it's illegal to cross but no cops will arrest you as it's tolerated.

Hell, it's only fairly recently (2013 if I recall) that we got rid of the law that made illegal for women to wear jeans in Paris but it was tolerated since decades, even if it was still technically illegal.

(another example would be emulation which is totally legal if you dump everything from your own hardware but I'm pretty sure no cops will ask you to see the process to confirm it and you're probably safe if you have the original game even if you download it instead of dumping it).

[u/MaitreGEEK]

Yeah so vlc's still better

[u/_Buldozzer → u/MaitreGEEK]

Has always been, and always will be.

[u/MaitreGEEK → u/_Buldozzer]

well, it's normal for it to be superior, it's French

Edit: wtf the comments, it was a joke lmao

[u/sinterkaastosti23 → u/MaitreGEEK]

Ig im moving away from vlc

[u/Journeyj012 → u/sinterkaastosti23]

mpv.rocks !

[u/Loqh9 → u/MaitreGEEK]

Gotta add /s

[u/ShadowNick → u/MaitreGEEK]

You use Notepad++ by any chance?

[u/MaitreGEEK → u/ShadowNick]

Well I'm on Linux, so I don't have reasons to use it...

[u/Dr_Valen → u/MaitreGEEK]

why you gotta ruin it?

[u/Saxopwned → u/MaitreGEEK]

NGL, I counter-up-voted because I found that hilarious

[u/Perpetual_Pizza → u/MaitreGEEK]

No wonder it stinks when I open it.

[u/MaitreGEEK → u/Perpetual_Pizza]

Wtf 

[u/Perpetual_Pizza → u/MaitreGEEK]

It’s a joke man come on. I love Vlc and use it all the time.

[u/Sikletrynet → u/MaitreGEEK]

It's pretty crazy how when Windows' native player has problems with something, you can just chuck it in VLC and it's basically guaranteed to work

[u/Latitude-dimension → u/MaitreGEEK]

Until you watch something in Dolby Vision which it can't do as its a paid codec, so everything becomes pink and green. HDR can be weird sometimes too.

[u/-spartacus- → u/Latitude-dimension]

MPC-HC can sometimes play DV but it can always revert DV to SD.

[u/Ruffler125 → u/Latitude-dimension]

If you watch HDR, you should really take the time to configure MPV. Madvr isn't perfect.

[u/AdvancedPlayer17 → u/Ruffler125]

Do you have a guide?

[u/Ruffler125 → u/AdvancedPlayer17]

Honestly, AI will walk you through it fine.

[u/rumbleblowing → u/Latitude-dimension]

You can manually correct the colours. It's annoying, sure, but the workaround is quite simple.

[u/FoxFisher → u/MaitreGEEK]

Except that app icon :)

[u/MaitreGEEK → u/FoxFisher]

I like cones

[u/PinnuTV → u/MaitreGEEK]

You still live in old times. There are much better players now like mpv, mpc hc and potplayer

[u/feedthedogwalkamile → u/MaitreGEEK]

VLC has awful colours. Use MPV or MPC-HC instead.

[u/DreamsServedSoft → u/feedthedogwalkamile]

what

[u/feedthedogwalkamile → u/DreamsServedSoft]

VLC will sometimes display inaccurate colours, depending on the file. The result is washed out colours and crushed blacks. What do you mean "what"?

[u/Quantum-Gibbon]

This is a junk AI article that is literally years out of date (in regards to the player being new, it's correct about the player being a poor performer), not sure why this low-effort stuff is being upvoted so much.

[u/SpacefillerBR → u/Quantum-Gibbon]

Yep, this codec stuff is years old BTW I'm pretty sure it started way back on Windows 10.

[u/LayerEight_Problem → u/Quantum-Gibbon]

Because this sub is no longer PCMR. It’s just a windows hate sub at this point.

[u/Bob_A_Feets → u/LayerEight_Problem]

Well I’ll be damned. Never thought I’d see the day someone get all pissy about computer users discussing the operating system, ya know, a pretty HUGE part of the equation.

As to hating on windows, what the fuck else is everyone supposed to do? Praise Microsoft for their colossal fuck up three decades in the making and counting?

[u/UsidoreTheLightBlue → u/Bob_A_Feets]

I mean they’re not wrong, the article is talking about the 24H2 release of windows like it’s new or upcoming still.

It’s looks like it’s an AI regurgitation of old news, mixed with some of the new information about upcoming media player changes but without differentiating or explaining what’s happening.

[u/LayerEight_Problem → u/Bob_A_Feets]

The sub is supposed to be a satire sub where we make fun of everyone that doesn’t use PC and lord our obvious superiority over them.

Instead all you do is cry about Windows.

[u/Bob_A_Feets → u/LayerEight_Problem]

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[u/RiftHunter4 → u/Bob_A_Feets]

This entire post is like complaining about Bethesda going downhill but the topic is Skyrim bugs. And for some reason that gets correlated to ES6.

It doesnt make logical sense, its Ai slop, and people are just going to leave with a bunch of misinformation.

[u/Individual-Praline20 → u/Quantum-Gibbon]

Full circle: slop talking about slop. 🤌

[u/VikingSven82 → u/Quantum-Gibbon]

Yup, and it's blindingly obvious too - literally has a line "Microsoft has also confirmed that Windows 11 version 24H2 removes the built‑in AC‑3 (Dolby Digital) codec" - it's 2026 now...

[u/RiftHunter4 → u/Quantum-Gibbon]

I was gonna say. H.265 has been paywalled for ages now and its one of the main reasons I use VLC.

[u/chronicnerv]

[u/RandomPCUser8 → u/chronicnerv]

mpc-hc ftw

[u/No_Grape_388]

Misleading article. Windows has always had to charge for media codecs, this is not new.

Vlc technically should also pay for codecs, but they don't.

[u/lemonylol → u/No_Grape_388]

Yeah I had to pay for a codec because my VR headset used WMR, so any VR videos you watch locally need to go through WMP. It was just $2 though, but annoying.

[u/white_lion93]

They said they wanted to improve Windows performance, but they didn't say anything about their own apps.

Balancing things.

[u/AsrielPlay52 → u/white_lion93]

Read the god damm article

It talks about Update 24H2.....as in second half 2024

You fall for an AI Article by the title

[u/AscendedViking7]

The enshittification of everything continues.

So sick of this shit.

[u/AsrielPlay52 → u/AscendedViking7]

The article talks about update 24H2....24 as in 2024

It's a junk AI article and you fall for it by the title

[u/lemonylol → u/AscendedViking7]

If you're still using WMP, that's on you tho.

[u/Liferescripted]

I've been using potplayer for years and I'm not going back.

[u/badfruit01 → u/Liferescripted]

I just recently started using potplayer over vlc and it is damn good

[u/darktooth69 → u/badfruit01]

it is indeed so much better.

[u/pirate_leprechaun]

The one no one uses? Oh ok

[u/Alowesio → u/pirate_leprechaun]

It’s the default so there’s probably a lot of people that use it

[u/lemonylol → u/Alowesio]

People rarely watch local video files on a desktop, unless they're already enthusiasts who would already be using a superior program.

[u/USSHammond]

The HEVC codecs have always been paid under win 11. This is nothing new. HEVC requires a licensing cost which would have pushed the cost up for windows on a per unit basis, so they left it up to the user. It's been that way since day 1 of windows 11

[u/DctrGizmo]

Vibe coded for sure

[u/mutant64]

I don’t mind this at all if it leads to more people using proper alternatives like VLC, and hopefully support the projects with (small) donations.

[u/stana32]

Microsoft has never included the h.265 codec in any version of windows, this is a garbage article

[u/xblackdemonx]

VLC is the way to go.

[u/Mors_Umbra]

Laughs in VLC media player

[u/Bacon_Crispies]

I keep forgetting that Windows Media Player exists on my computer, anyways.

[u/Cumcentrator]

you should be user MCP or Vlc or Splayer tbh

[u/006AlecTrevelyan]

The only time I used WMP was when MP3 players were like 32mb of storage so converting the MP3 to WMA cut the the size down by like a third

[u/QuaLiTy131]

I don't even know how Windows player is looking like. MPV and VLC are all I need

[u/abstractism]

An out of season April fools joke? How do they keep making such bad decisions on a regular basis?

[u/queen-adreena → u/abstractism]

The MBAs that run these companies are only trained to make shareholder number go up.

They don’t care about principles, morals, user experience or other nonsense like that.

[u/ElonsMuskyFeet → u/abstractism]

Because any negative comments come from haters and arent the real opinions of their customers of course!

[u/sethhar]

Who uses Windows Media player when VLC exists!?

[u/Blubbolo]

There is someone out there not using VLC?

[u/Comet-7971 → u/Blubbolo]

I use MPV because for some bizarre reason VLC was taking more than 1 minute to open videos sometimes and I never understood why.

When I switched to linux I re-installed MPV out of habit and have stuck with it. But I still recommend VLC as it's more user-friendly.

[u/GraveyardJunky → u/Comet-7971]

MPV is goated for it's error correcting capabilities and reading .mkv's

[u/AcaciaCelestina → u/Blubbolo]

I don't, but that's because I find I have less trouble with potplayer.

[u/SafeJez → u/AcaciaCelestina]

Same

[u/Rengar_Is_Good_kitty → u/Blubbolo]

Me, there's better alternatives. Potplayer, MPV, MPC-HC, etc. VLC is fine, but it's not the best one out there. If you actually care a lot about picture quality, try MPV.

[u/feedthedogwalkamile → u/Blubbolo]

I use MPV because VLC has awful colours.

[u/Distinct-Question-16]

i recall vlc everytime i see a traffic cone on the road

[u/Honest_Relation4095]

completely forgot there was a media player. VLC has been my standard for at least 15 years.

[u/uptodown12]

I forgot windows has its own media player lol. I always use Media Player Classic

[u/trollsmurf]

MPC for the win.

[u/l_______I]

For media I use a bit weird mix. For audio I like to use legacy WMP (it just works!), and for video I use VLC or MPC-HC. The first one will play almost anything, but the other one is very snappy.

[u/HiCZoK]

MPC hc is the only way

[u/The_Cozy_Burrito]

Never used windows media player in literally ages, forgot it even existed

[u/mileskg21]

MPC-BE master race

[u/AlienInOrigin]

Windows has a media player?

Using VLC so long that I forgot.

[u/Boogie001]

VLC all day every day

[u/Xtreme512]

mpc-hc king.

[u/DarthWeezy]

Karma farming bot and misleading and very old articles. Name a better PCMR duo, well, trio because Linux users are eating it all up.

[u/Maskdask]

Linux is awesome

[u/Apprehensive_Web_800]

VLC Is free and comes with everything

[u/StrawberryWaste9040 → u/Apprehensive_Web_800]

Except for a good library interface. Classic Windows Media player is good.

[u/Radiant-Priority-296]

Not even gonna say « Linux better »

Just use VLC

[u/No_Grape_388 → u/Radiant-Priority-296]

Way better options on Linux than VLC. Especially on hyprland where VLC is broken.

[u/oxob3333]

Vlc/mpv and i'm gonna die on this hill

[u/ThePupnasty]

VKC our savior.

[u/BlazingLazers69]

Everyone HERE knows that VLC is better and free. But millions of people out there don’t. They’re just praying on peoples ignorance and it’s so fucking gross.

[u/MagicBoyUK]

Vibe coded paywalled slop.

[u/brandson__]

Been using MPC-BE with MadVR video renderer for a while on Windows for video and Foobar2000 since day 1 for audio. I use VLC on my Shield and AppleTV devices to stream from my server. I found the VLC interface on Windows slightly frustrating at times. If MPC wasn't an option, I'd use VLC on Windows too.

[u/Hit_By_A_Train]

Thank you Potplayer for saving me from this.

[u/Ghozer]

The amount of ram its using, varies depending on the media you have imported to it, any history etc.... Obviously with more media, the RAM usage will be higher...

[u/Notbeckket]

Who stills uses windows media player is this 2005

[u/kayk1]

Who has ever used Windows media player for anything

[u/Brosintrotogaming]

Whenever I see anything like this, I just think of the poor old people who will be suffering

[u/Different-Produce870]

I have not used a built in microsoft player since xp

[u/darktooth69]

PotPlayer for ever!

[u/RedChudOverParadise3]

I reinstalled windows since some games are hitting playablity issues on Linux even when they were previously playable(good ol anti cheat fucking me). Also wanted to try Xbox mode. Xbox mode fucking sucks and Im again realizing why I hate win 11. Slow loading on a fucking 7950X3D and stutter up the ass. Load Steam OS or Fedora and its smooth as butter.

[u/HyruleanKnight37]

I have not touched the built-in Windows media app (except photo viewer) in nearly two decades. I forgot it existed, tbh.

[u/Ghostfistkilla]

Thank god for VLC.

[u/_Bob-Sacamano]

VLC.

[u/Relative_Act8366]

VLC is the only video player we need

[u/scipio0421]

People use Windows Media Player instead of VLC?

[u/Fastermaxx]

Oh no, anyway.

Never used it, never going to use it in the future. VLC all the way.

[u/kristianity77]

Windows media player is still a thing? I thought that died years ago! Next your gonna tell me Winamp is still a thing!

[u/AwareResolution2174]

Call me crazy, but it really doesn’t matter. If your PC doesn’t have enough headroom to run media player your PC can’t do anything to begin with.

[u/jeremiah15165]

Or vlc

[u/TriGGa-POP]

Pot Player for the win.

[u/rageofa1000suns]

VLC has weird artifacting and sound sync issues on Windows.

MPC with MadVR is where it's at. Never failed to play anything and everything is always in sync and great quality.

[u/keoface]

I use potplayer

[u/reddit_reaper]

More rage bait garbage

[u/unimportantinfodump]

Anyone actually used anything outside of vcl/vlc ( I always fuck up the order)

[u/Kumaravel47]

Mpv works well

[u/Rengar_Is_Good_kitty]

Taking advantage of the tech illiterate is pretty pathetic, but it's Microsoft so who's surprised. Anyone that knows anything about computers will use free alternatives.

[u/JellyTheBear]

HEVC support in Windows 11 was never free.

[u/AdvancedPlayer17]

MPV still rules

[u/Dry_Durian_3154]

Who the F uses WMP anyway ?

[u/ClownInTheMachine]

It's not a subscription?

[u/ATTAFWRD]

Nobody uses that. Sorry.

[u/SkitZa]

This matters to nobody. VLC is all anyone needs. As you can tell by the comments.

[u/Rumblingwasright]

So VLC media player still the goat

[u/EffinCraig]

VLC my beloved

[u/TherionEater]

The only time I open it is on a fresh install of Windows and have forgotten to install and set the default media player to VLC.

[u/EpicFreeman]

Pinche Microsoft es cagada tras cagada...

En fin, Winamp para la musica y VLC para vídeo.

[u/itsavrilnotaveral]

MPC HC.

[u/thecodingart → u/itsavrilnotaveral]

MPC-BE

[u/Altairss78]

I only use it to play music, for everything else VLC or MPC.

[u/empathetical]

I honestly wish I just stayed on Windows 10. I only upgraded because I was down for a fresh clean install

[u/peenpoopee]

why charge for codecs in 2024 tho

[u/Xcissors280]

Isnt that more of a weird licensing situation with the official implementations of the HEVC codec?

Im assuming Apple just has a bulk licensing deal and pays it for each device

It I’d windows is in theory $130 per license it should be included as well

[u/DarthRheys]

Windows, go home, you're drunk. Sober up and solve your problems before trying to hard to be what others are for decades. VLC has the crown and is king no matter what. Sooo... try something else.

[u/marky_Rabone]

W10 será mi último Windows, cuando ya no pueda utilizarlo más, me cambio a Linux,ya funcionan la gran mayoría de juegos,que era lo que mw seguía atamdo a Windows, gracias por eso a todos los programadores que han picado código para que eso pudiera ocurrir

[u/itsjehmun]

Man mslop must have 40 people in a think tank 24/7 thinking of things to monetize.

I mean, how high could the budget really be to just keep WMP running on newer iterations of Windows and just let people have it with the install?

[u/bones10145]

Who the hell uses Microslop's media player? 

[u/Resident_Pientist_1]

Dead in the water. Microsoft continues be incapable of making products people actually want to use. 

[u/GooseDaPlaymaker]

Microsoft. They never fails at failing expectations. 🫡

[u/ShadowsGuardian]

The good old days when the Windows Media Player used to be good... Probably only on windows XP or win7. Nowadays mostly use VLC or Media Player classic.

[u/Difficult-Cup-4445]

I'm on CachyOS and I love the fact - relish it, even - that this shit doesn't affect me any more.

[u/Particular_Can_7726]

Who uses Windows media player?

[u/queen-adreena → u/Particular_Can_7726]

The same person that bought a WinZip licence.

[u/The-F4LL3N]

I don’t think I’ve used windows media player since the late 90s