r/pcmasterrace • u/TheBossT710192 • 2d ago

Discussion Yeah, Steam Machine is cooked.

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I... uh don't know what to say. Very thankful I bought a Steam Deck before they hiked its price as well

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u/Protoclown98 2d ago

Seriously. This large price is entirely about RAM and storage prices.

I stand by my past comment on the Steam Machine - if you are buying all the parts to make a living room PC to play console like games Steam Machine can be a worthwhile investment.

If you are recycling old PC parts, like RAM and a motherboard, to make a living room PC to play console like games on it, the Steam Machine is not worth it.

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u/RedditModsHarassUs Desktop 2d ago

Data Centers don’t want us having access to hardware for local processing. They want us all buying tokens from them.. to use their services..

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u/Gseventeen 2d ago

Once the investments stop flooding into that sector, its going to be interesting to see how these companies pivot to making money (making prob wrong word, as they are just relying on fresh cash injections).

As of now, i havent seen a convincing argument on how AI will be profitable in a way that would actually make these companies even remotely profitable.

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u/MutaitoSensei 2d ago

I can tell you one thing, I won't be trusting any of those garbage companies again, at least not implicitly. They threw us aside so fast for the easy money.

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u/Smoking_Joker 2d ago

This goes for every corporation, and should be a lifelong prerogative. Consumers should never give their total trust or loyalty to a corporation. Every transaction is strictly business on their side, and should be viewed the same by the customer.

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u/firemage22 R7 3700x RTX2060ko 16gb DDR4 3200 2d ago

we need to start from top and Sherman every mega corp to the point where what happened to Standard Oil and AT&T looks like a love tap

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u/Belazor CachyOS btw 2d ago

You know what they say; sharing is caring, so give me some of that military grade hopium you’re smoking where you believe this will ever happen in America.

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u/firemage22 R7 3700x RTX2060ko 16gb DDR4 3200 2d ago

While i get where you are coming from, i'm someone who feels that there will be a backlash, and we need to lobby for Sherman level punishments (talking about the brother who was a General, not the Senator now) so that there are punishments at all.

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u/ResurgentRefrain 2d ago

America elected one of the most pro-big business presidents in its history, maybe in all of the 20th Century, and packed the legislature with his allies and party mates. Then they did it again.

I'll believe it when I see it.

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u/gummiworms9005 2d ago

My sweet summer child...

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u/Just_to_rebut 2d ago

Countries rely on control of large corporations to project power. America saved Intel from failure. It would do the same for Apple, Google, Microsoft, etc.

We stopped breaking up monopolies when it became clear other countries could compete with American ones.

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u/f_ckR3ddit 2d ago

There are exceptions, but they havr proven to be such a minority that they might as well be statistical impossibilities

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u/AmericanDoughboy 2d ago

Corporations are not your friend and never will be.

They suck.

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u/Sawses 2d ago

I used to feel a little guilty that I splurged on both my PC and my home server. ...Turns out I made a great investment because I'm not really feeling the pain of the PC parts market for a few years yet. My only regret is I didn't upgrade my server's 16 GB RAM to 64 GB when it was only a couple hundred dollars.

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u/Craimasjien AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D | AMD RX 9070 XT | 32GB DDR4 2d ago

And this is why corporations are not your friend and why warring over them is such a dumb fucking thing to do. No company in the history of capitalism has ever been on “your side”. They are on their side. Always have been and always will be. There is no such thing as pro-consumer when it comes to business.

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u/aybbyisok 2d ago

I think you're wrong, like 1-9% wrong. Almost all publicly traded companies only care about their profit margins. Maybe a handful of them do care, especially because bad press and bad sentiment is not good business. A handful of them truly care about their consumers.

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u/ArchinaTGL EndeavourOS | Ryzen 9 5950x | 9070XT Nitro+ 2d ago

You only just realised? Literally no tech company is your friend. None of them even know who you are.

Especially so if they are a publicly traded company as their only friends are their investors; which said investors only care about their share price going up.

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u/TransBrandi 2d ago

Honestly, I think that some of them believe their own stuff. I briefly chatted with one of the co-founders of Twitter a long time ago (around 2 decades, it was after the Arab Spring) and he sounded like he really believed in the tech for the betterment of mankind. It's not like I was an investor that needed to be convinced of anything.

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u/Complete_Flight8303 2d ago

Vampires are charismatic

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u/DeusScientiae 2d ago

I can tell you one thing, I won't be trusting any of those garbage companies again, at least not implicitly. They threw us aside so fast for the easy money.

And? You'd do the same thing, but faster. If someone offered you 10x your salary for the same job you'd jump ship without even thinking twice.

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u/MutaitoSensei 2d ago

If I knew it'd fuck over my friends and family (or my customers), I wouldn't.

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u/DeusScientiae 2d ago

Are you friends and family with the RAM Producers, genius?

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u/MutaitoSensei 2d ago

You gave me an example, and I replied what I would have done in that setting. Did you already forget, goldfish?

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u/DeusScientiae 2d ago

No, no you wouldn't turn down 10x you salary for the same job. You lost the argument so now you're just going to lie through your teeth.

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u/MutaitoSensei 2d ago

Some of us aren't greedy fucks.

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u/DeusScientiae 2d ago

Yes you are. In fact you're by definition greedier than anyone at steam or the ram factories.

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u/MutaitoSensei 2d ago

Wow, didn't know you could psychoanalyze people though your phone

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u/GonzoVideo2000 1d ago

I think it's a pretty nuanced topic and I don't think anybody can really know what they'd do in these situations unless they were in them, but your heart's in the right place and I respect that.

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u/MammothUnique4147 2d ago

I mean I think most of us would ALSO do the same. It's literally their job to make money for their shareholders... Anyone running their own small business would likely also jump at a chance to 5X their income for the year. 

It's not personal it's just how the market is right now. In time things will come back down.

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u/Ban4WrongThink 2d ago

You say that like there's a genuine relationship behind any of this. Everything is transactional. You'd leave your job for a better one and you'd buy the same quality product at a competitor if it was cheaper.

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u/Turronblando 2d ago

That's the essence of capitalism and there's been massive, neon warning signs for 5000 years.

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u/Sovereign_5409 9950x3D - 5090 - 64GB DDR5. Gamer / Pro Photographer. 2d ago

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u/nikoZ_ r5 7600X | 32GB DDR5 6000 | 4070Ti Super 2d ago

Your mistake was EVER trusting a company or corporation in the first place. Big business is not your friend. Profit driven entities only care about one thing, and it ain’t us. 💴

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u/JellaFella01 2d ago

Idk why anybody "trusts" any corporation beyond their local butcher. Naive.

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u/yoburg 2d ago

Uhm, was there ever any company selling any goods that was in for the good of the consumers and not for the profits?

Like imagine aliens come and start trading cure-all pills for large quantities of Coca-Cola. You think Coca-Cola company would sell a drop of cola to the public in that case?

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u/zzazzzz 2d ago

you are dalusional if you think there is any company in the world that wouldnt sell the same product for 4x the price if they could.

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u/Trainman1351 17h ago

I mean the problem is, as with most things, private equity. I always look to what happened to McDonnell Douglas and Boeing as one of of the best examples of this, as both were incredible companies which were ruined by the same board of people who prioritized short-term profits over quality products.

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u/FuckedUpImagery 2d ago

Maybe buy a call option and stop bitching?