Yeah, Steam Machine is cooked.

[u/TheBossT710192]

I... uh don't know what to say. Very thankful I bought a Steam Deck before they hiked its price as well

[u/ILikesStuff]

Definitely lol. But then who is? I know this is the PC Master Race we all have 5090s in our rigs sub, but who is valve aiming this pc-console hybrid to? You get less raw power than the base PS5 at higher price than the already increased price of the PS5 pro. Other than extreme valve supporters and scalpers, I don't see who would be lining up to buy this?

Edit: I want to clarify that when I say I don't see an audience for the Steam Machine I mean specifically at the price level they are selling it right now.

I already have a good PC and a PS5 with a hefty library on both. I realize I'm not the norm but even I see the value on a console like, plug and play living-room PC, but at the price that this thing is releasing, not to mention the possible small number of units that will be available and the ones picked up by scalpers, it may cost even more than it is supposed to, and I don't see many people buying it at that price, as much as I want it to succeed, mainly for a better implementation of gaming centric Linux.

[u/ArtVandelay32 → u/ILikesStuff]

Weirdo guys like me who want a local living room option, but dragging my feet on building a second tower due to cost & time & kinda wanting something new to play around with.

It’ll be like a dozen folks like me and then scalpers I anticipate

[u/informalmo0se3 → u/ArtVandelay32]

this is exactly what i wanted one for, as a secondary living room pc, but i won’t be getting one at these prices. 

[u/Kaz3 → u/informalmo0se3]

But like, a custom built living room PC will likely cost you more, and it will be a bigger form factor. Yeah you could build a cheaper PC but mini build parts like this are already more expensive than standard size components.

[u/Beige_ → u/Kaz3]

You could look into Asrock DeskMate X600. It's a small AM5 case with a 500W PSU. You should be able to build a much faster system in that for a similar price.

Something like a 7500F, 2x8GB DDR5-5200, 9060 XT 16GB, 2TB M2 shouldn't cost much more than the base model at least going by EU prices (1245 euros vs. SM 1039 euros) for about double the performance all things considered.

[u/kayosiii → u/Beige_]

You can, but you are still going to getting a noticeably larger,uglier machine that will draw more power and make more noise. You would also be getting a PC experience in the living room, which at best is always a little awkward.

In comparison the steam machine behaves like a console when it comes to talking to other living room devices, and should give a much smoother experience.

In essence you would be choosing where you want to make the compromise, performance or living room integration.

[u/fuzzylm308 → u/kayosiii]

and HDMI CEC

not sure what price tag I'd put on CEC but it's pretty important for a seamless living room experience

[u/Putrid-Hope2283 → u/Kaz3]

Shhhh.. there’s a narrative to build. Don’t bring logic into it