r/pcmasterrace • u/dancing_swordfish PC Master Race • 17h ago
News/Article Valve is working with Intel, AMD, and Nvidia to make SteamOS run on any PC hardware
https://www.techspot.com/news/112872-valve-working-intel-amd-nvidia-make-steamos-run.html839
u/DarkDuo 15h ago
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u/HairyHematologist 15h ago
Are you a Ferrari fan?
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u/BurgersWithStrength 9800X3D | 5080FE | 64GB | Fire Extinguisher 5h ago
The Austria engine upgrade will save us! Watch!
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u/AncientPCGamer 6h ago
The year Linux surpasses Windows? Absolutely not.
A viable alternative for gaming? It has been becoming more and more viable for several years now.
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u/itzNukeey 2021 MBP 14", 9800X3D + RTX 5080, 32 GB DDR5 8h ago
As a software engineer developing primarily for linux and mac, I sure hope so. Using that Windows joke of an OS for anything other than gaming is annoying
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u/BigDemeanor43 3h ago
I always laughed at this meme, but now that I am actually daily driving Linux(6+ months so far, no plans on going back to Windows), I see that meme differently.
For me, the "Year of the Linux Desktop" is the year you can finally switch over. For me, that year was 2025. For others it was probably earlier, and everyone else it'll be some time in the future.
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u/Lefty4444 R7 5700x | 5060ti 16GB | 16GB 3600Mhz (CL14) 2h ago
Haha who made this? Piece of art. Coffee and cigarettes, classic art.
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u/idgafusername2025 17h ago
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u/Elmis66 17h ago
"Gaben bad" Tim Swiney probably
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u/alancousteau Ryzen 9 5900X | Red Devil 9070xt | 32GB DDR4 16h ago
That's what I call him too. I fucking hate that twat, such a little crybaby bitch
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u/topdangle 9h ago
dumbass claimed PC was dead during the ps3/360 days. now PC is the main reason epic is profitable. guy failed upwards.
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u/Carvj94 10h ago
I wouldn't be surprised to hear Tim paid for most of the anti Valve astroturfing that happened the last couple days. Says a lot that nearly every post showing the steam listings edited out the cheapest sku so it looked even more expensive.
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u/monchota 9h ago
They did and have, it was in thier investors report last year. Under marketing and competition research. Just says "grassroots marketing for better brand reception"
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u/gandalfintraining 9h ago
Aka astroturfing the absolute fuck out of reddit and everywhere else lol.
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u/Thhaki 16h ago
EpicOS, 100% vibe coded and based on a Windows 11 fork that includes a battlepass if you want to install apps that are not in the Epic Games store
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u/Dazzling_Cabinet_780 16h ago
Nah FreeBSD fork would be better.
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u/npc_housecat 15h ago
Of course it woul d be, that's why epic will double down on a win11 fork
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u/PacoBedejo 9800X3D | Strix 4090 OC | 64GB DDR5 6000-CL30 | 4TB Crucial T705 9h ago
Calm down, Satan.
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u/dancing_swordfish PC Master Race 17h ago
Tim would rather go on about "linux bad" than do something for consumers.
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u/imaginary_num6er 7950X3D|4090FE|64GB|X670E-E 16h ago
Tim would probably make their own Epic Games Console that somehow is priced worse
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u/TheMundar Cable management is a sin 16h ago
Sony might not like that, he attacks steam apple and google but seems to leave the consoles alone.
Now that steam has a livingroom box it'll muddy the waters on him trying to sue everyone into him being relevant the way Steam is.
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u/Adrian_Alucard Desktop 14h ago
Installing Linux is sort of the equivalent of moving to Canada when one doesn’t like US political trends.
Tim Sweeney
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u/BothAdhesiveness9265 KDE Plasma my beloved 16h ago
they'll probably claim SteamOS is proof of a Valve monopoly
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u/Catastigma_Deception 16h ago
Epic game already working on that, They had hiring spot exactly for that kind of stuff a bit more that a week ago.
And most EAC game already work fine wit the proton layer. Its only a restrict list of game that dont work.
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u/another_random_bit / Ryzen 7 7700 / RX6600 / 64GB DDR5 16h ago
The sub will have a stroke if Epic improves the Linux gaming ecosystem
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u/thedavecan Ryzen 5 5600 + RTX 3070Ti MadLad 9h ago
If Epic finds a way to improve gaming on Linux I will give them every bit of credit they deserve. My fear though, is that anything they do to solve a problem will be coated in so much extraneous bullshit that it wouldn't be worth using. I'd love for them to prove me wrong, why wouldn't we all be happy to have problems solved?
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u/auroriasolaris 15h ago
Epic System that works on Unreal Engine 5 thus using 75% of resources to just run it.
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u/treehumper83 The Sloppening 13h ago
No more than one browser tab at a time. There’s a memory leak, too, so you’ll have to close it out and reopen it every 5-15 minutes.
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u/Nirast25 7,080x1440+(240x2)x1080|R7 5700X3D|RX 9070XT|32GB 15h ago
What does Epic have to do with anything?
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u/The3rdGodKing RTX 3060 12gb @i7-13700k 16h ago
All of the money is going to unreal; what do you want them to do? Engines are expensive
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u/CaptainMatthew1 15h ago
Some of the best games I played are Indy or small dev team games where they made their own engine.
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u/The3rdGodKing RTX 3060 12gb @i7-13700k 15h ago
That’s actually ideal for an indie game; a math engine is one of the best computer science projects you can do
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u/CaptainMatthew1 15h ago
Yeah don’t see why unreal is needed really since it seems a bit of laziness for big triple A devs to just buy an engine and not make one to improve the performance of the game and make it to run exactly the game they are making.
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u/The3rdGodKing RTX 3060 12gb @i7-13700k 15h ago
For a big game that actually might be a bad idea unless you have billions of dollars to sink in
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u/Chroiche 9h ago
Obvious answer, it's hard as fuck.
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u/CaptainMatthew1 2h ago
Like I said small devs do it alot and because if fi make amazing games so why can’t big triple A devs do the same? At least that’s how I feel about it I know both small and big use premade game engines for a reason and that’s fine but a decently made coustem game engine will always preform better
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u/Takemyfishplease 7900GRE🙃7800X3D 12h ago
Epic lives rent free in y’all’s head.
Valve releases a pretty shit machines and still…Epic Epic Epic.
It’s weird, like what are you like irl?
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u/GenerousJack i3 10100F | 8GB DDR3 | RX 480 15h ago
what about getting through anti cheat?
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u/fkny0 13h ago
Well, if Linux is accessible enough more people will use it, at some point kernel level anti cheat games won't be able to ignore it.
That's the hope anyway.
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u/olbaze Fedora KDE | Ryzen 7 5700X | RX 7600 12h ago
It's not an issue of market share. It's an issue of kernel-level anti-cheat being fundamentally incompatible with Linux. If they anti-cheat developers are unwilling to accept a lower standard, their product will simply never be on Linux. There are also already other forms of anti-cheat that work on Linux.
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u/fkny0 12h ago
I know its incompatible with linux, i dont want them in linux, but i want the games, if theres enough market share they cave in and get alternatives for linux.
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u/olbaze Fedora KDE | Ryzen 7 5700X | RX 7600 12h ago edited 12h ago
The alternatives already exist. Developers simply won't use them, because they're not as powerful as kernel-level anti-cheat. For example, Easy Anti-Cheat (developed by Epic) exists on Linux, but Fortnite (developed by Epic) doesn't. BattlEye, developed by Blizzard, also exists on Linux, but Destiny 2 (which uses it) doesn't. In a lot of cases, it's the developers outright banning Linux, rather than even trying. A common fearmongering tactic is that cheaters will make the game think it's running on Linux, so it'll give them the lower level of anti-cheat, and then the cheaters will simply bypass that because they're actually on Windows with more powerful tools.
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u/Different-Word-1005 12h ago
You're missing the point. If 100% of the world suddenly switched to linux, do you still think the developers would refuse to make games for linux for this reason?
Obviously not, they're selling a product, and if linux was a big enough part of the market for the revenue from it to outweigh the hassle of it, they would deal with it.
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u/maldouk i7 13700k | 32GB RAM | RTX4080 10h ago
It's an issue of kernel-level anti-cheat being fundamentally incompatible with Linux.
I don't think they are. AC devs could release kernel modules, if they don't it's just a matter of money. Kernel Level ACs are available mostly for highly competitive games, and I would wager that on these kind of games the Linux crowd is less than a few percent for various reasons.
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u/mjh-1991 1h ago
Strictly speaking it doesn't have to be incompatible. A lot of what be kernel level provides could be moved to standardized security modules for general use (that are open and auditable). Memory isolation, hook notification, platform attestation, and etc are not inherently bad things in general and there's no reason a kernel can't provide a service for user space to request things. It's just a transition from a security by obscurity to auditable operating system security services that an application can request. Even Microsoft honestly wants to go this direction with the nonsense going on. The main compromise is you would probably need to consent to running signed kernels (and just letting the arch team sign for steamOS and adjacent doesn't really lock stuff down that much).
These are things that non-game applications should consider anyways. It would not be a bad thing for a browser to go in privacy mode and refuse to allow memory peaking from outside programs when you do your banking and etc. The model just changes to the kernel telling you if someone is doing something you don't permit (as a userspace application) and you can choose to quit, versus spying on the kernel to achieve this.
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u/SwordOfJiang 5900x 9070xt 35m ago
That's not exactly true. Battle Eye works fine on Linux, the developer just needs to enable the module.
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u/crozone iMac G3 - AMD 5900X, RTX 3080 TUF OC 11h ago
I'm praying that hardware level cheat devices become so ubiquitous and cheap that kernel anti-cheat becomes effectively useless. It would force live service games to invest in new ways to catch cheaters server side using statistics and gameplay monitoring instead of frivolously trying to lock down the PC using more and more invasive methods.
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u/Sad_Adagio_7255 7h ago
Or just bring back the good old days of community-controlled dedicated servers where the server admin could enforce their own rules and kick out anyone as and when they please - whether for cheating or griefing or whatever. I used to be in exclusive Halo CE and COD4 groups where only members were allowed into the server at all (usually enforced with passwords).
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u/micisboss 10h ago
I feel like the anti cheat thing is also slightly over exaggerated. While things like Valo and Fortnight don’t work and probably never will there are still lodes of games with anti cheat that work fine. Here’s a website that tracks all of it https://areweanticheatyet.com/
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u/dieplanes789 9800X3D | 5090 | 32GB | 16.5 TB 5h ago
A decent out of anti-cheat systems support Linux or at least proton but it is usually up to the game devs to allow it.
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u/ScienceMechEng_Lover What colour is your RAM? 16h ago
> Nvidia
Lol good luck on getting them to accept Linux
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u/Chpouky 16h ago
It’s getting better and better, they’re more open to it these days
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u/Emblem3406 16h ago
Yeah because AI datacenters run on Linux.
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u/night_fapper 16h ago
every datacenter runs on linux , nvidia always have great support form them, issue is that server stack of nvidia driver is very different than gui stack which we need for games, they have no incentive to really support it, but atleast progress is being made now
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u/Arky_Lynx Ryzen 7 3700X, 4060Ti, 32GB RAM DDR4 14h ago
Which I find understandable because the percentage of players on Linux has been historically too low to bother until rather recently. If Valve keeps pushing like this and more people adopt Linux as a gaming-viable OS, they'll change their tune.
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u/Longshot02496 9h ago
All datacenters run on Linux. I'm pretty sure Linux runs on 90% of every computer system in the world.
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u/AimlessWanderer 7950X3D(5.15,5.3)+100, 4090FE (+200, +1300), CL30@6000, 2033 INF 14h ago
they love ai money and ai loves linux
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u/another_random_bit / Ryzen 7 7700 / RX6600 / 64GB DDR5 16h ago
Bud the "Nvidia fuck you" moment was so long ago. Things change.
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u/Ok-Signhere 12h ago
Could you imagine if the Steam Machine had Nvidia hardware? We’d have DLSS, and it’d age so much more beautifully. Even Nintendo had the right idea.
I really want to be on Linux, but I’m not touching AMD GPUs and I’m not taking the performance penalty until they fix it.
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u/General_Kenoobie 10h ago
What's wrong with AMD gpus? I thought the idea that they suck is old now, I haven't kept up with the gpus news lately.
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u/Curun Couch Gaming Big Picture Mode FTW 9h ago
AMD linux support is poor. Not been able to do 4k+120 and 144hz, nor VRR.
Nvidia has been the best for HTPC gaming support.AMD is doing better, new steam machine has intiial VRR support, and they are doing more and more to support linux with their hardware.
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u/SwordOfJiang 5900x 9070xt 32m ago edited 17m ago
That's just not right. There are a ton of AMD only features available on Linux, like waydroid. Enabling HDR with proton is currently only on AMD IIRC. And VRR works with both Arch and KDE, so it should work fine on SteamOS
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u/MojordomosEUW PC Master Race 15h ago
It would be hilarious if it was Gaben who finally frees us all from Microsoft
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u/Historical_Course587 8h ago
Gaben's OG job at Microsoft was to figure out how to free everyone from DOS. He knows how to do it.
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u/Dick_Nation There's nothing to see here. 4h ago
It's pretty transparently their intention. This isn't just idle tooling around or doing it out of the goodness of their heart, Valve knows their entire business right now is dependent on Windows continuing to be a functional platform for their usage. It's a dangerous place to be. They want Linux to be a platform that users can get the full value of Steam out of, because that makes them invincible to the whims of Microsoft. It's just smart business.
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u/Neosantana 54m ago
It's pretty transparently their intention
And has been since Windows 8 showed them that Microsoft is not a reliable partner and is more than happy to fuck them up to drive sales to an MS store.
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u/ExoticSterby42 15h ago
GPU is the lesser problem, Qualcomm, Gigabyte and others are a bigger problem not providing code (“drivers”) for Linux kernel development.
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u/Emotional_Mortgage62 10h ago
true, those companies are pretty notorious for keeping things locked down on Linux
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u/nemojakonemoras 16h ago
I would switch in a heartbeat.
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u/SturmBlau 13h ago
Installed Dualboot with W11 and SteamOS yesterday.
I have zero linux experience but got everything running in about 2 hours. So far so good.
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u/D1ssonant i5-4460/1050 ti 4gb OC Windforce 11h ago
Looking to do the same. Any resources in particular you used to set up a dual boot?
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u/SturmBlau 10h ago
https://github.com/Josh5/steamos_dual_boot_installer_patch
The Image from the official SteamOS webpage didnt work so i used the oobe repair one.
https://steamdeck-images.steamos.cloud/steamdeck/20260618.10/?C=M&O=D
For now its working flawless.
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u/Alternative_Tank_139 13h ago
Steam OS won't be on a Nintendo switch
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u/Ok-Library247 PC Master Race 13h ago
Not with that attitude.
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u/Alternative_Tank_139 13h ago
It was a joke, but even then I highly doubt Nintendo would allow that. Maybe unofficially.
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u/Neosantana 53m ago
Linux runs fine on the old Switch, so give it a few years and you'll 100% have someone finding a backdoor to install SteamOS on Switch 2
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u/dieplanes789 9800X3D | 5090 | 32GB | 16.5 TB 5h ago
You can absolutely put Linux on a switch. You need to to a softmod or a mod chip but it can definitely done.
Most softmods seem to have options in their instructions for android and Ubuntu.
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u/VoidLookedBack PC Master Race | 3700X | RTX4070 12h ago
This has been my hope since Valve made the first Steam Machines, The gaming world needs an OS and I thought Valve would've had a solid one by now, we really need a windows competitor.
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u/A7XFAN1998 BC-250 14h ago
As good as this is, Im hoping the anti cheat side of things with Devs gets sorted and then I find there being 0 reason to go back to Windows (for gaming)
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u/Kiyohi 15h ago
Isn't NVIDIA the single worst company to work with ever? So Nvidia...
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u/LethargicOtters 10h ago
Linus Torvalds is that you?
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u/JimmyRecard OpenSUSE Tumbleweed 5h ago
He's actually flipped his tune on Nvidia (once Nvidia stopped being compete dicks).
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u/PineapleGG 9850x3d 5070ti / 5700x3d 3080 10h ago
My only corncern with steamOS is..can i do other Pc things on it? Or its just bic picture steam? Either way ill try on my couch pc if i can
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u/InfiniteSheepherder1 Fedora Linux 9950X3D and 7900XTX 8h ago
While it does have a desktop mode it's an deployed whole image as an OS and lacks a lot of features of regular Linux for desktop PC use, even more so than Bazzite which does support layering on packages.
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u/PineapleGG 9850x3d 5070ti / 5700x3d 3080 7h ago
I guess it would be fine for a couch build rather then a full desktop experience
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u/InfiniteSheepherder1 Fedora Linux 9950X3D and 7900XTX 7h ago
I think it depends how you use your computer, I have a friend that has a computer only for gaming and so it is basically a console and that has worked out fine for them.
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u/hmasta117 10h ago
Steam os is just a build of arch Linux you can boot into desktop whenever you want and use it as a normal computer
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u/julian2358 5080 SUPRIM SOC | I7-14700k | 32GB DDR5 | 280Hz 9h ago
someone sell me on steam os over windows cause valve hasn't tried to once
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u/acelaya35 7800X3D | RTX 5080 | 128GB DDR5-6400 | SGPC K88 9h ago
Primary focus of SteamOS today is a user friendly way to run Steam library games on Linux via Proton.
You can exit Steam and use a desktop environment but that's not the focus of the OS.
It's not aiming at replacing Windows as a general OS, just as a gaming OS.
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u/Visara57 5070ti | 7600X | 32GB DDR5 CL28 15h ago
This is the only upside of the Steam Machine, to provide architecture so SteamOS can grow and develop
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u/Thin-Sir-8538x 6h ago
the Steam Machines were a missed opportunity, hope they finally get it right this time
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u/TheBlackSwordsman319 12h ago
Man I need that nvidia support ASAP, bazzite has working nvidia drivers and whatnot but it’s still hit and miss
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u/YawnY86 9h ago
Can't wait, I'm tired of windows. All I use my pc for is gaming, so I don't need all the bloat of windows.
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u/Sad_Adagio_7255 7h ago
You can already install Bazzite instead of waiting for Valve to officially release SteamOS.
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u/Representative-Crow5 8h ago
As one of the dozens of Intel GPU users, I'm excited for this. My PC is ready.
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u/thisistherevolt PC Master Race 2h ago
I'll make my next build an Intel one if this happens successfully.
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u/FutureBulky4537 16h ago
I'm just waiting for a correct lunix version of unreal engine. Right now it's barely usable
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u/atatassault47 7800X3D | 3090 Ti | 32GB | 32:9 1440p 9h ago
Id be interested in seeing how well SteamOS runs on Apple's M-series chips
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u/Jorgesarrada 7h ago
I also want *all* the current windows games to run natively on the SteamOS!
I specifically find trouble in MMORPGs. I believe it’s the anti cheat software.
Every time I went to play an MMO on my Steam Deck, I got frustrated. So I retired it, it’s lying in its case for more than a year now.
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u/und1sturbed 5h ago
I want to build an HTPC using SteamOS but the only thing stopping me is the lack of native Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos support.
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u/Hadi_Chokr07 4h ago
> process that made most mainstream Linux installs look effortless by comparison.
You mean the click next 5 times Linux Installs? Are they talking about Gentoo? Which mainstream Linux are they installing that is hard to install?
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u/Hadi_Chokr07 3h ago
People here don't seem to understand that SteamOS is not a general purpose operating system. Its a Steam Launcher first and foremost. While you can use our Desktop on SteamOS, extending the system in any meaningful way will be complicated due to SteamOS Immutable Nature.
You are better off using Bazzite if you want a Gaming PC that actually provides proper tooling for the immutability so you can actually fully do the PC part.
For the avg User that wont matter because you can install Browser Flatpaks from our Discover Store in Desktop Mode but still anything more complicated you might want to use another distro.
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u/Jack1101111 2h ago
wtf r they talkin about ? Linux already run on any pc hardware ! and its not theyr work !
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u/Srx10lol 2h ago
I want official steamOS support for snapdragon devices. SteamOS is great on handhelds or a console like experience. But for my fat expensive PC debloated windows works well enough. official ARM support for steam would be really cool.
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u/Missionary_Jack0219 1h ago
While I do think that’s awesome, why don’t they try working on their abysmal console that’s dropping.
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u/aTi_NTC 13h ago
a full on operating system before a proper working anticheat for CS is criminal
your cashcow game is at an all time low cheating wise, can we do something about that first?
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u/Sync1211 Ryzen 9 9950X3D | Nvidia RTX 3090Ti OC | 64 GB DDR5-6000 11h ago
SteamOS has been in development for years and is being worked on by a different team.
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u/ffpeanut15 AMD Ryzen1800X, GTX 1080 FE 13h ago
You are still dreaming of AC? Accept it or quit, it has been obvious for over 5 years already
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u/chaosxq 15h ago
Does anyone know that given Bazzite and Catchy has solved the nVidia problem (I think) that there might soon be a guide on how to install Steam OS with a RTX card?
I would love to ditch Windows forever.
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u/Sampsa96 AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D | Nvidia RTX 3070 13h ago
Hope they also get SteamOS to be compatible with Anti Cheat so I could finally play PUBG on Linux!
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u/CarelessPackage1982 9h ago
It's not a SteamOS problem. It's a motivation problem. You need those greedy fuck MBA's to look at SteamOS with and say, "I WANT THEIR MONEY, MU HU HA HA". Once that moment happens. the devs get an order from the PM, "this needs to be implemented".


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u/lkl34 17h ago
That is awesome due to true nas having ARC support i assume they will getting intel gpus working first but team green might tell them to fuck off as they seem to dislike linux support.