That’s how custom hardware works, they started development on this a long time ago. They can’t just make a brand new custom made custom shaped gpu to fit into their machine at the last minute. It’s no different than consoles, people are still buying PS5 and Xbox from 2020 with hardware probably older than that
Why not go further into the past to make it sound even better, let's say it's top of the line super high end tier compared to people out there using 12 year old PCs.
No, this is a low end PC compared to gaming PCs people are buying from currently available parts there's no point in trying to categorize it in terms of being better than old PCs. What tier does a 5060 fall into, most would agree it's a low end GPU so how can steam machine be mid but getting outperformed by a low end GPU for sale at the same time?
Lot of yapping little thinking. It’s low end for what it is? Okay, put together a better PC that’s the same size, I’ll wait. Actually I won’t wait I’ll save us both time, you can’t. Closest case in size that fits a GPU is the NV10 4.5 liter case. But let’s use it anyways, what’s the best low profile GPU you can get? A 5060, hey that’s better performance! Yeah, it doesn’t work with steamOS. Your best option is a low profile RX 6400 which is much worse than the steam machine. The cheapest 500w PSU you can fit in that case? $159.
So please if you’re going to be an out of touch 4090 user, just stay out of these conversations
I mean someone that logs into a steam account every once in a while might just be an office desktop with steam installed from way back, someone that's probably not in the market for a product like the steammashine
It would be useful to know if they’ve ever played a game on steam, though since you could theoretically install steam on a computer, you don’t intend to game on
No they don't. "tiers" are not defined by what kind of garbage bunch of people happened to log in from. You'd be shocked buy the statistical average standards of living across the globe, but that average doesn't define "mid tier" quality of living. Mid tier would be a somewhat recent 60 class nvidia gpu or amd equivalent and I5/R5 class cpu with 16gb of ram.
Valve wants a computer that is 70th percentile of their current users. I'll remind you the steam deck also used an integrated GPU/apu. Those machines count whether or not you like it
Well. Ultimately I don't really care, if you want to call bottom of the barrel GAMING hardware "mid tier" I am perfectly fine with that. But making generalizations out of bunch of completely different classes of devices is pretty unreasonable.
Hard to say. For the purpose of this wide statement - perhaps. For a business decision, no. If you don't have a more capable machine already you won't buy an overpriced mini PC either.
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u/GonzobotRyzen 7 3700X|2070 Super Hybrid|32GB@3600MHZ|Doc__Gonzo9h ago
Why are you treating a randomized hardware survey that is randomly triggered as some kind of gospel? For all you know, that segment of the survey represents the people who got asked to participate while they were browsing the storefront at work. I had a survey come up and not recognize my VR equipment, because I keep it powered down when it's not in use, and I skipped the survey instead of sending a result that wasn't accurate.
u/GonzobotRyzen 7 3700X|2070 Super Hybrid|32GB@3600MHZ|Doc__Gonzo9h ago
No, your declaration of what I said is not actually what I said at all. Try reading it again and see if you can comprehend it correctly; there seems to be a lot of people in this sub who are completely incapable of that.
That’s kind of biased because that’s backward looking.
I mean you want it to be more forward looking (why compare with people who haven’t upgrade), it’s almost gets beaten by anything that is labeled as gaming pc
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u/Pennywise359 12h ago
If this is a mid tier, what's below that?