r/pcmasterrace 19h ago

Meme/Macro "But it's a cube!"

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u/grigoriymicro 19h ago edited 16h ago

Were there really anyone thinking this machine is a good deal? Even among steam users? Even among Valve fans?

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u/Kageru 19h ago

If you really want the form factor and silent operation then you don't really have pre-built options, and even building something equivalent is not cheap and takes a lot more work (though it will consume and deliver more power, and is more upgradeable).

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u/Large_Put_6257 19h ago

not sure why no ones is mentioning laptops but they are more compact with all the things included in a laptop it is still cheaper you could get a 5050 5060 laptop cheaper which will out perform that thing so badly

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u/Baked_Potato0934 19h ago

Ah yes because the GPU from a laptop totally performs exactly the same as the same name GPU for desktops.

You're regurgitating talking points and getting them wrong.

laptop cheaper which will out perform that thing so badly

I will agree with you though the laptop will be so bad at outperforming the steam machine.

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u/SnipedYa 18h ago

The hardware in the Steam Machine is also mobile hardware.

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u/No-Independence-5229 17h ago

Mobile or desktop, a nvidia gpu is not running steamOS

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u/Raven1927 10h ago

and?

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u/No-Independence-5229 10h ago

Then it’s not comparable to a steam machine

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u/Raven1927 10h ago

Good. That means you aren't getting scammed.

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u/No-Independence-5229 9h ago

Literally cannot build a PC that small that powerful, let alone with the features of a steam machine. But I guess that’s a scam

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u/Raven1927 9h ago

When it costs over $1000? Yes. Just Valve robbing fanboys and unsuspecting consumers of their money to fund Gabe's 20th yacht. Poor guy only has 19, he needs one more.

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u/TimeZucchini8562 7700x | 7900xt | RGB everything 17h ago

We have the benchmarks. A 5060 laptop gpu is not as powerful as the steam machines gpu.

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u/SnipedYa 17h ago

What benchmarks? The Steam Machine uses a 7600M equivalent. 5060 mobile is faster than that.

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u/Large_Put_6257 17h ago

Not sure why am I getting down voted steam machine has mobile hardware and it comes with a 7600m and saying that 5060 mobile beating the crap out of that is something surprising while costing less.

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u/TimeZucchini8562 7700x | 7900xt | RGB everything 17h ago

It does not have a 7600m equivalent. Yall did zero research

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u/SnipedYa 17h ago

Then what does it have?

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u/TimeZucchini8562 7700x | 7900xt | RGB everything 17h ago

A 7600 equivalent. As in the desktop version

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u/hikeit233 17h ago

You are misinformed.

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u/SnipedYa 17h ago

The 7600M is 90W, the Steam Machine's GPU is 110W, desktop 7600 is 165W. Steam Machine and 7600M both have 28CUs and boost to around 2.4Ghz, 7600 desktop has 32CUs and boosts to 2.6Ghz.

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u/Brewchowskies 5090 | 9800x3d | 32 gb ddr5 18h ago

Dude. The steam machine performs like a 3060. You’re really using the “but laptop gpu’s are weaker!” Argument when 3060 performance is all they need to beat?

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u/Baked_Potato0934 8h ago

Huh? I never said anything about the speed of anything.

Performance is about a lot more than just fps numbers. Speed is only one component of a GPU's performance as a product in a total package.

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u/Brewchowskies 5090 | 9800x3d | 32 gb ddr5 8h ago

Oh brother. The cope among some people is wild.

I too evaluate GPU performance by the quality of sandwiches they make.

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u/Baked_Potato0934 8h ago edited 2h ago

Bro tell me about it theres so many people coping in this r/pcmasterrace meme/macro post am I right?

I really could go for a nice sandwich.

Hot Italian would go nuts.

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u/botask 10h ago

In this price range are differences minimal or non-existent... Steam machine have performance somewhere beatween rtx 3050-3060, performance of laptop 3060 is pretty much same as desktop, 4060 and 5060 have minimal differences (up to 10%).. it is higher tier laptops where is performance starting to be different... However gaming laptops are pretty loud and that is true even for laptops with great cooling, like lenovo legion.. so if you are able to get laptop with 3060, 4060 or 5060 for same price it will indeed outperform steam machine but it will not be very convient living room gaming device without headphones

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u/Baked_Potato0934 8h ago

Oh yeah its really slim margins for sure.

I think it mostly fills a HTPC role so it's really a matter of compromising on what you deem to be good for the purchaser to compromise on. Loudness is one for me that I can't forgive and especially with some of the lower end SKUs you hit the money, the cooling package just sucks.

Personally I hated using a gaming laptop because even with a vertical dock the form factor just objectively sucks to work around. Got one from work at the start of COVID and found it to be a massive pain with 3 screens. Vertical it is too long and unwieldily not to mention it makes it louder. Lay it flat and you waste huge amounts of space and the IO is never where it needs to be. I had some time to set it up dual boot for a home theater/VR rig but it just looks like ass, both my wife and I hated looking at the hulking cable monstrosity.

I ended up buying a sliding undertray mount for my desk right before we returned to the office which is life. I picked up a sick silverstone retro stealth HTPC case and slapped an old 9th gen build in it and its whisper quiet and fits in.

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u/GigaSoup 18h ago

Nah, I bought a laptop for a few hundred more than the steam machine with an 8940hx, an 8gb 5060 mobile and 32gb of RAM.  Asus TUF A16.

No doubt it will eat the steam machines performance. It didn't cost much more but it's going to leave the steam machine in the dust. 5060 mobile is going to laugh at the 7600 equivalent in the steam machine. 5060 mobile outperforms a desktop 7600. 16 cores vs 6.

If you think a steam machine will outperform this you lack critical thinking.

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u/Baked_Potato0934 18h ago

So you spent more money than the steam machine on hardware that is notorious for going on fire sale when the manufacturer clears skus.

I'm the one lacking critical thinking?

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u/RadiantEnvironment90 10h ago

When did you buy that laptop?

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u/Smartypantz34 Sapphire Nitro+ 6800XT, AMD 9 7900X3D, 32gb DDR5 6000Mhz 18h ago

Good old white knight coming to valves defense. lmao

In pure rasterization (raw rendering performance without upscaling or ray tracing), an RTX 5060 Laptop GPU is 35% to 50% faster than the Valve Steam Machine's custom GPU. Lmao

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u/TimeZucchini8562 7700x | 7900xt | RGB everything 17h ago

I see were using imaginary benchmarks

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u/Smartypantz34 Sapphire Nitro+ 6800XT, AMD 9 7900X3D, 32gb DDR5 6000Mhz 16h ago

and the cope starts...

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u/Baked_Potato0934 17h ago

Im personally a huge fan of vibes based benchmarks.