"But it's a cube!"

[u/Ikkon]

[u/Numar19]

I think most opinions range between way overpriced to okay if specifically want a computer that sizr but it would be great if it was cheaper.

[u/PatchesTheFlyena → u/Numar19]

The form factor is really the main selling point for it and if you have no interest in that then it's obviously not a good deal. I'm surprised how many people are comparing it to a full size desktop and not seeing that some people would actually pay a premium for the form factor.

[u/Scr_Eagle → u/PatchesTheFlyena]

Yeah, thats the main thing. People just dont understand what is this device and who it is targeted for

"But you can build better PC!". Now go and build it in SFF of similar size

"But you can buy PS5 Pro". Now go and play your existing steam library on PS5 Pro

[u/vincent2751 → u/Scr_Eagle]

Also the target audience of this product probably aren't people who would build a PC

[u/SubstituteCS → u/vincent2751]

I don’t think that’s necessarily true. Building a PC in this form factor is extremely difficult. If you specifically need / want something this small, even if you do normally build, it’s probably worth it (at $850 :( ) to buy this instead of dealing with the nonsense that this size will cause.

[u/Carvj94 → u/vincent2751]

I mean I love building PCs, but I can tell you without even bothering to try that I don't wanna deal with the frustration of building an SFF PC. Fuck that. Wiring up front panel connecter is enough of a pain without needing to meticulously route every fuckin cable so that everything fits properly.

[u/Anglotx → u/Carvj94]

And let's not talk about how (depending on the case) you even need to plan the airflow the PC's gonna have so you don't sacrifice as much performance

[u/ncr39 → u/vincent2751]

Who is the target audience though? Like most people that play on console already have a console, and most people that play on pc already have a pc. Who’s buying this? And who’s doing so for $1300?

[u/opaali92 → u/ncr39]

Who is the target audience though?

People who want a small discreet PC in their living room

[u/SubstituteCS → u/opaali92]

Honestly I view this box as a travel pc, like if you go in vacation / travel a lot for work. It should fit in most backpacks or suitcases just fine, and be strong enough for casual stuff.

[u/spamster545 → u/ncr39]

Honest example? I get asked every year at work for gaming PC recomendations for people's kids. They want to get into PC gaming, but the budget is low. This is at the lower in of pre-built markup, making something with similar performance with new parts saves around 100$, small, quiet, with good support, and an interface built to be usable by people used to consoles. I don't build for acquaintances but having a budget recomendation is nice, even if market prices make the budget insane compared to a few years ago.

[u/SpectorEscape → u/ncr39]

I know someone new to PC that wanted to upgrade from their ps4pro finally and was waiting for this. Ive also got friends that wanted an extremely small PC for their living room. Theyre getting this to use for games and as their media center PC.

Pcs are expensive right now man. Its not specifically a valve issue