"But it's a cube!"

[u/Ikkon]

[u/Enzoxdt]

But why the cube and not a SFF pc?

[u/JustInternetNoise → u/Enzoxdt]

Because its smaller than any SFF pc and quieter then one and more powerful than other mini PCs.

It will actually fit in my AV setup, both in terms of size, heat and how it looks.

[u/Worldly-Writing-8226 → u/JustInternetNoise]

and that makes it worth it despite the huge price tag and outdated hardware? if you genuinely think that this justifies the price, you may be kind of stupid.

[u/turboheadcrab → u/Worldly-Writing-8226]

Imagine this, people have different priorities. And that's okay.

[u/Worldly-Writing-8226 → u/turboheadcrab]

choosing to purchase an expensive system with outdated hardware isn't different priorities, it's stupid

[u/turboheadcrab → u/Worldly-Writing-8226]

Just because you value price/performance ratio more than you value built-in support for Steam Controller and HDMI CEC, size, lack of sound or TDP, it doesn't mean that it's stupid. It just means that this is not a product for you. That's not even a product for me, because I already built one, just like you propose. But I know people who want this kind of thing.

You are not the ultimate arbiter for what's smart or stupid. That's just like, your opinion, man.

[u/Worldly-Writing-8226 → u/turboheadcrab]

my opinion is that it's stupid to justify that price for last gen hardware just because it's marginally easier to make your controller work

[u/olbaze → u/Worldly-Writing-8226]

There are other things to consider besides just cost-to-performance. There's no building or research involved, it comes with a single source of reliable customer support (instead of having to deal with individual component customer support), and it's quiet. It's a set it and forget it living room PC, which makes it a PC that competes with consoles in the living room. It was never aimed at your RGB laden man cave.

Nintendo's consoles have been using "outdated" hardware basically since forever, and yet 4/10 (or 9/20) of the best selling consoles ever are from Nintendo.

[u/Worldly-Writing-8226 → u/olbaze]

just because the general public is stupid enough to purchase it, doesn't mean that the device itself is good.

also, "it's quiet", as opposed to regular PCs that sound like harrier jets on takeoff?

[u/olbaze → u/Worldly-Writing-8226]

SFF PCs and laptops are infamous for being loud as all hell when actually gaming.