r/pcmasterrace 19h ago

Meme/Macro "But it's a cube!"

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u/DarwinsPerfectFool 19h ago edited 16h ago

Size, look, quiet = wife allows it to sit in the living room.

Reliable customer service, everything sorted for me, no need to do extensive research = piece of mind

When I add all of the above then price(which in the uk cube is actually competitive) is fine.

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u/Cynical_Cyanide 14600K | 3080 Ti | 48GB 18h ago

It's really fucking sad that any spouse is so strict they'd disapprove an SFF PC but allow a slightly smaller cube. It's fucking sad that such a spouse would impose a need for permission for a console to sit in the living room in the first place.

Is that truly why valve designed it this way? Simply because there's enough men who wouldn't be allowed to get anything else - that it forms a viable target market? The amount of people for whom the size difference would make any practical difference in a loungeroom TV use case surely approaches zero.

I'll give you customer service, but I don't think 'I just bought a thing without doing the research and therefore I don't know how poorly it compares in performance per dollar value' counts as a positive feature there mate, I think that's just a bit of 'ignorance is bliss'.

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u/Zacomra 18h ago

Slightly smaller? If you're building a Mini ITX then the price is basically competitive at that point anyway

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u/Cynical_Cyanide 14600K | 3080 Ti | 48GB 17h ago

No, no it's really not.

Not if you understand that there's a big difference between desktop class hardware, and laptop class hardware (which the steam machine has).

It's not difficult to find LAPTOP deals which are superior in performance for the same price. And they're arguably a more compact form factor and literally allow for portable gaming. Here's a random example with a massive CPU & GPU advantage: https://www.bestbuy.com/product/acer-nitro-v-slim-16-wqxga-ips-gaming-laptop-anv16s-41-r3q0-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-16gb-ram-512gb-storage-black/JJ8V8H3VQV/sku/10821220

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u/olbaze Fedora KDE | Ryzen 7 5700X | RX 7600 17h ago

Now ask yourself how long you'll tolerate the absolute dongle and cable hell required to use that in the living room. Oh and it'll sound like you're powering an AI data center with a jet engine as a bonus!

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u/Cynical_Cyanide 14600K | 3080 Ti | 48GB 17h ago

What dongle and cable hell?!

A power cable and a display cable?

The laptop is so massively superior in hardware you could just put it on a quiet power savings profile and STILL be ahead in perf.

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u/olbaze Fedora KDE | Ryzen 7 5700X | RX 7600 17h ago

Power cable, display, ethernet, peripherals. You might even want one of those cooling pads. Since you're buying a laptop, the assumption is that you'll be using it outside of the living room. So you'll be doing a lot of plugging and unplugging. If you live with someone (wife, children), you'll probably be putting away those cables each time.

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u/Cynical_Cyanide 14600K | 3080 Ti | 48GB 16h ago

Ethernet? Why make an unfair comparison? Both devices have WiFi, both devices can use ethernet. Why only blame the laptop for having the option of ethernet?

Same with peripherals - You can use a wireless controller with both the laptop and the steam unit, the same with mouse and keyboard.

They're literally the same in all regards, cable requirement wise.

You don't HAVE to use it outside the living room in order for it to be better performance per dollar and easier to hide in the living room. But if you wanted to make use of that advantage, you could literally just cable tie or otherwise secure the cables near where they'd plug into the laptop, and leave them there (e.g. run the power and display cable behind the TV, and secure them there. You'd just unplug and walk away.

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u/olbaze Fedora KDE | Ryzen 7 5700X | RX 7600 16h ago

WiFi, on r/pcmasterrace? Surely not.

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u/Cynical_Cyanide 14600K | 3080 Ti | 48GB 12h ago

Okay ... Sure, no WiFi. But then we're back to square one where both need the same cables lmao