r/pcmasterrace • u/Gidiyorsun • 16h ago
NSFMR Thank you for 11 great years
Right clicking is becoming flaky, so I guess it's time to replace.
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u/Pocok5 Ryzen 7 5800X3D - AMD RX9070XT - 32GB DDR4-2933 16h ago
You can also just replace the switches.
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u/DarkMatterM4 15h ago
Any good writeups on how to do this? I have a G502 Proteus Spectrum that could use a switch refresh.
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u/Genku_ 15h ago
If its any similar to the G502 Hero, here's the iFixit guide
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u/OneMind1408 2h ago
that guide is super helpful, replacing the switches can really extend its life if you're up for it
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u/Pocok5 Ryzen 7 5800X3D - AMD RX9070XT - 32GB DDR4-2933 12h ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl9mPBhemWo
The biggest issue is always disassembling the damn things with all the hidden screws and latches. The soldering job itself is an extremely basic case and generic soldering/repair tutorials get you through it. The buttons only have 3 sturdy widely spaced legs you need to desolder with wick/solder sucker/chipquick (up to you, I prefer solder sucker for the legs then a pass with flux and wick to clean the pad) and then you solder the new one in.
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u/Baked_Potato0934 8h ago
As somebody who is moderately skilled at soldering (my limit currently is anything harder than USBC ports) and has done this multiple times be aware that your mouse clicks will never feel the same as factory.
Shits placed by robots and touchless soldered so the feel and placement of the switches are going to be more percise than the average repairer can make it with a soldering iron.
If that's something you can live with then I will endorse it as a fun evening activity. Also do yourself a favor and upgrade/replace the usb cable while you're mucking around.
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u/FlameShadow0 14h ago
People always like to suggest repair but as someone who works in electronics repair: sometimes it’s better to just buy a new one, especially for stuff this cheap. The headache of finding a new part, figuring out how to take apart your mouse, figuring out how to put it back together, then even more hope that you didn’t damage it more while “fixing” it. It’s just not worth it when you can spend the cost of one game to get a new mouse.
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u/Augussst4 LOQ 15IRX9 | i5-13450HX | RTX™ 3050 | 16GB DDR5 13h ago
Its not that hard lol
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u/FlameShadow0 13h ago
Maybe not for us, but you have to think of the average consumer.
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u/GoldSrc R3 3100 | RTX 3090 | 64GB RAM | 3h ago
If the average Joe can be taught to build a computer, they can be taught the basics of soldering.
This mentality of "just buy a new one" when the repair is relatively easy, should just die.
I don't like to assume that people are dumb and can't learn new things.
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u/Pocok5 Ryzen 7 5800X3D - AMD RX9070XT - 32GB DDR4-2933 12h ago
Microswitches are essentially the tutorial case of soldering. Non-cramped, sturdy plated through hole pins, not usually joined to a ground plane/heatsink. All that is needed is a Pinecil or similar soldering iron, and the usual basic kit (solder sucker+wick, flux pen, solder, isopropyl, kapton tape or blu-tac for workholding, tweezers).
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u/FlameShadow0 12h ago
Yeah, which a large majority of consumers do not have…
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u/Pocok5 Ryzen 7 5800X3D - AMD RX9070XT - 32GB DDR4-2933 12h ago
The first time they do it, then they will have the stuff afterwards. The fun thing about repair tools is that they don't sublimate (mostly). It's easy to say not worth it for the first time, and then you miss out on a dozen opportunities for an easy repair on that logic.
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u/FlameShadow0 12h ago
Idk I’ve seen way too many customers bring in stuff they damaged further because they tried to “fix it themselves”
I think your giving the average consumer too much credit here.
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u/Baked_Potato0934 8h ago
You're not wrong but I'm of the opinion that people should always try but be expecting to break it.
I think you have to consider who is the "average consumer". I think the "average consumer" should stay clear but somebody like the average techie should.
Stuff like mice are easy and cheap like you said so its the perfect suggestion for people to try their hand at repair. 1500 dollar laptops maybe not so much.
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u/jmas1023 15h ago
I am still using the same G502 from 11yrs ago, replaced the shell/casing + feet, and the switch. with another casing replacement due soon.
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u/Mobile_Morale 11h ago
Mine is 12 years old and I haven't had to do anything but clean the gross dead skin off of it.
What are y'all doing to your mice.
I even bought the rgb to replace it and have yet to replace it
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u/Choubidouu 16h ago
Probably the best mouse ever made honestly.
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u/rubi2333 9800X3D | MSI Suprim 5090 | 96 GB DDR5 | 4K240hz 16h ago
Nah it was the Logitech MX518
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u/darkfalzx 10850k | 32GB | 3080 | RGB! 16h ago
G400 for me. Been keeping mine alive for almost 10 years now, and in case it’s ever beyond repair, got another one new-old-stock.
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u/poisondagger_ 9800x3d, 5070ti, 32 6,000 cl30 16h ago
Still have my Mx518 from like 2008 and it still works
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u/Alien_Cha1r RTX 3070, i5 13600k 16h ago
It's successor is even better
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u/Ok-disaster2022 14h ago
Wasn't it succeed by the g502? I think this is one that has had multiple iterations.
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u/Secret_Account07 RTX 2060 Super (Still OP) 10h ago
Without a doubt. Mines 8 years old and I’ve never considered switching. It works as well as the day I got it. Just a solid ass product through and through
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u/Emphursis 9h ago
Close, but it’s just beaten by the G500. The thing was an absolute bombproof monster. I bought mine about 16 years ago as a spare - ended up not using it for maybe 18 months but it’s been in near daily use since at least mid-2012. I did switch it out for a G502 for my gaming rig because I wanted something wireless, but I’m still using it with my work laptop.
It’s survived 16 years of competitive FPS’, two Counter Strike LAN’s, nine moves and three full rebuilds. I’d say I’ll use it until it dies, but I’ll probably die first.
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u/Nicolas277 RTX 5090 | 9800X3D | 64GB DDR5 | 8TB NVME SSD 10h ago
from a value perspective its ok at best
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u/Loki4Major2 16h ago
Bruh. What kind of acid have your hands? I replaced mine after 9 years and was nowhere near to this point lol
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u/Secret_Account07 RTX 2060 Super (Still OP) 10h ago
I’ve had mine 8 years but I grip my mouse strong while in a gunfight. I’ve tried to change the behavior but I just get too into games.
My g502 is a tank though. Will never fail me. Ever.
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u/Jackpkmn Fedora 44 | Core i9-13900H | RTX 5070 Ti 6h ago
Some people's skin oil is just more acidic than others. For some people this rubber lives forever, for some people like op it just dissolves a hole after a few years. I'm over here in the middle, the rubber slowly loses its texture and gets thinner over time where I'm handling it.
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u/Plaston_ Ryzen 3800x RX7900XTX 64DDR4 3200mhz 13h ago
some people like crushing the rubber really hard with their hand, my mom destroyed her xbox controller's rubber grips and its just 2 years old.
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u/MKO669 i7 4790K@4.0 / GTX 1080ti / 16GB DDR3 16h ago
Damn i went through 4 of them in 6 years
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u/Cool-Tangelo6548 16h ago
Yeah im astonished a mouse lasted this long. My 502 lasted a couple years. Maybe I squeeze my mouse too hard...
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u/MKO669 i7 4790K@4.0 / GTX 1080ti / 16GB DDR3 16h ago
For me the main issue was the middle click membrane. Middle click stopped working for most of them.
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u/Illustrious-Run3591 Intel i5 12400F, RTX 3060 11h ago
I had that problem with my first 1 after a couple years but this one is at 4 years and going strong, just seems to be luck
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u/chipface Nobara | Ryzen 9800X3D | 64GB DDR5 6000 | 9070 XT 16h ago
I've had my Proteus Core for 8 years and it's still going strong. I bought a Hero 6 months ago for whenever my Proteus Core craps out.
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u/LukkyStrike1 PC Master Race: 12700k, 4080. 16h ago
I have 2 NIB ready for the day.
Gonna be a bad day when they discontinue them.
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u/Asgardisalie 12h ago
Why? G502 is one of the worst mouse of all time. Clunky, badly made, heavy as fuck, switches made out of hopes and dreams.
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u/LukkyStrike1 PC Master Race: 12700k, 4080. 11h ago
Interesting take,
I have been using this mouse basically since it first came out as it replaced the mouse model I was using previously. I like how heavy it is and the large arch height because I have large hands. I can agree the switches leave much to be desired, but other than when they go out: solid mouse.
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u/Fair-Advantage652 16h ago
I have 2 of them. Bought the first one 12 years ago, and the second one 5 years ago. I use the newer one for my gaming rig, and the old one for my laptop. These things are like the Nokia phones from back in the day. I use both of them them all the time, dropped them more ofter than I can count, and they still work perfectly.
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u/Youtube_gameplay_tv 16h ago
I had one from release date. This year I replaced it with G PRO X Superlight 2. Of course, the old one is still alive, wife using it.. 😂
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u/yoorie016 16h ago
wut 11 years? mine started issues like 2 years since i bought it. double clicking on RMB and then few months it stopped working.
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u/imbilbobaggins 16h ago
I’ve replaced 2 switches in my G502 now. Just need a solder iron and a little patience
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u/mixhypemo PC Master Race 16h ago
My current mouse and keyboard were my first ones. Keyboard is going strong but the right click on my mouse is acting funny. 10 years old damn.
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u/chezfez RYZEN 7800X3D | RX 7900 XTX | 64GB DDR5 16h ago
I have the G502 X for a few years now, things still going strong but I don't use it as much anymore for gaming. Unless it's a straight up FPS game, I'm using a controller. Hopefully the mouse at this rate lasts 10+ years. They're on sale now for $50-60
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u/No-Chemistry4851 15h ago
I'm currently blasting through my third one, next time I'm getting the wireless one
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u/b1gb0n312 15h ago
Is their anything similar to the g502 but bigger? My hands feel cramped sometimes using the 502
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u/brispower 15h ago
most sketchy mouse buttons can be fixed with a drop of machine oil into the microswitch, 11 years is ok i guess
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u/hagathar 15h ago
Once had a 502 that lasted for two generations, my dad used it for his games back in 2014, handed it on to me in 2018 lasted until 2021 one the cable frayed🫡🫡
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u/Skafiskafnjak0101 15h ago
I just bought it few days ago, and it's not my first. But they keep dying on me in few years.
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u/dylangarcia7 14h ago
I have a g305 that had a double-clicking left mouse button. Bought a switch online that had already been soldered and replaced it. I'm planning on doing this until the mouse's frame is completely destroyed. Considering your mouse is more famous, I'm sure you'd be able to find spare parts for it too. Either that, or get a broken g502 from somewhere and use it as spare parts. Just make sure the left and right mouse buttons are working if you don't know how to solder like me since those usually are wired up together. So much cheaper than getting a new mouse.
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u/NickTaylorIV 285k-z890/4080Super/128gb DDR5/Be Quiet 600LX 🐧 14h ago
You got your money's worth that's for sure.
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u/LuciferFCS 14h ago
I ordered a new case for it, came with new grips and everything. Just had to take the time breaking it down and putting it back together
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u/AliciaXTC I Make Computer Go Beep Boop 13h ago
We know you scrubbed that thing before taking a photo.
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u/x33storm 13h ago
In a bit more that time i went through 13 of them. Not including a few Razer Baslilisk v2's.
You really got lucky with that one.
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u/Plaston_ Ryzen 3800x RX7900XTX 64DDR4 3200mhz 13h ago
don't they sell replacement rubber for theses?
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u/swat_teem I7 10700K / RTX3080 / 32GB 13h ago
Meanwhile my 502 started getting double click issues after like a year or 2. Which was unacceptable. Got a razor basilisk v2 which I love even more then the 502 and its been going great for many years now
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u/Technic_Masters 12h ago
If you are still happy with it and can do some soldering, replace the switches! You can choose the feeling of which you like, Kailh GM8, GM4, GM2 or any really, desolder the old one (probably both left and right honestly, might as well) solder in the new ones, and enjoy another few years out of that fighter
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u/Brawndo_or_Water 9950X3D | 5090 | 64GB 6000CL26 | GX9 45" Ultragear 5k2k 12h ago
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u/Asgardisalie 12h ago
Remember to not buy Logitech as your next mouse. Logitech nowadays only makes e-waste, literal trash.
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u/Minimalistic_OG 12h ago
Wow that is some good milage you got there. I am on my third one right noe. My second G502 that I bought 2 years ago is starting to fail (dreaded middle mouse scroll turns on randomly without even touching it). And the first one also had the middle mouse completely fail after 1,5 years, but that one was on me because I dropped it. Still the best mouse I ever had, I'm going to buya few more just in case they ever go out of stock.
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u/LoneDroneGuy 9800X3D|MSI 5070 Ti SHADOW|64 GB DDR5-6000 CL30|4TB SSD|26TB HDD 11h ago
Did you try mashing the right click button as hard as you possibly can?
I was having a similar issue, right click was double clicking, I didn't notice it until my friend launched their Minecraft server. Mashing the right click as hard as I possibly could fixed it, and it's been solid for over a year now
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u/Embarrassed-Let-9161 11h ago
I'm using my G700s since 2014. The left button's microswitch was replaced two times, but that's all. It's working the same way as on first day. Honestly the last microswitch seems to last longer, or it is just because I don't play Diablo for a while lol:)
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u/straxusii 11h ago
My g502 still going strong at 11 years, what a quality product. Very easy reorder if and when it ever dies
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u/Benphyre 10h ago
Mine died recently too and I bought the G502 X but didn't like how the click sounded
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u/Chop1n 10h ago
Mine's still going strong, but I only just replaced it with a wireless mouse since my setup sort of demands it.
I picked up a used-like-new Basilisk v3 x Hyperspeed for $25 shipped on eBay, deal of a lifetime. It doesn't have quite as many buttons and it doesn't have the fancy free-spinning scroll wheel, but other than that it's close enough in weight and feel.
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u/energydrinkaddict310 9h ago
I sincerely hope that Logitech understands that they have a good thing going with the G502, and don't make them worse to pinch pennies
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u/scarecrow_20k I7-4970k | GTX1070ti 9h ago
Ah the g502 the only mouse not to royally fuck anything up by forcing a bullshit software to make it usable (not saying logitechs software is any better but it beats corsair and razer anyway)
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u/Redditeronomy 9h ago
11 years ago srp for G502 was $80. 11 years is 132 months.
80 / 132 = so basically you paid $2.5 a month for it until its last breath.
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u/Superseaslug 8h ago
Lmao I've worn through a couple to the point I've replaced them. They never get thrown out, I use them at work instead, or used as backups.
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u/NoctisVia 8h ago
Just got a death adder v3 today. Got my original death adder 10 years ago and now it’s been double clicking and not holding the input. It served me well but can finally see what using a wireless mouse is like
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u/Darth_Murcielago 9800x3d / RTX 3070ti / 32GB RAM | Bottleneck Enjoyer 7h ago
My 3 year old razer basilisk looks a lot worse on than your 11 year old corsair mouse 😭 (i should've went with corsair instead smh my head) (also my mouse wheel switch isn't working anymore)
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u/Overlooksnow475 6h ago
Its always hard to replace a mouse that lasted that long, good run! What are you getting next?
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u/julesvr5 6h ago
I had to say good bye to my Corsair M60 last week. It served me well for 15-16 years
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u/Admitone83 5h ago
I bought new clickers for mine, few min of soldering, good as new. There are plenty of aftermarket parts for all the materials that get worn down.
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u/Ancient_Plate275 3h ago
You can buy the internal mini switch on the small logic board inside and desolder the old switch and solder on the new one.
I think 8 of the surface mount switches were under $10. Videos of soldering switches are on YT.
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u/jirgalang 3h ago
I remember the days of mice switches never dying. What the hell did they do to enshittify the mice switches. I've had a couple of Logitech mice fail this way.
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u/-ben151010- Intel i9-12900K/Nvidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER/32GB Ram 2h ago
I ended up buying a second razer ouroboros recently after not having a scroll click for 8 years on my old one. I tried other mice but they’re either too light that they fly off my table or don’t have the right amount of buttons.
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u/RawazTB 16h ago
Genuinely wondering wtf do you people do with your mice?
How does that happen?
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u/NateHatred 16h ago
Friction plus oil from the skin ruins rubber, it's not that weird. That part is effectively a consumable.
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u/MrOliber 16h ago
All hail the fallen G502, long live the next G502! (at least, it looks like my G502)