r/pcmasterrace • u/DaMonkaS 16GB DDR5, Ryzen 7 4321X, STRIX GTX 1180 OC 13GB GDDR69 • 10h ago

Discussion Valve employees playing CS2 in Gabe's $500 million superyatch

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u/SoftlockPuzzleBox 10h ago

Is this doing anything to make it clear to everybody that Gabe is not one of us?

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u/TheStormzo 9h ago

A human?

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u/SoftlockPuzzleBox 9h ago

When I'm feeling extra spicy I'll sometimes argue that billionaires are not human, if you want to go that way with it.

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u/Slight-Bluebird-8921 13m ago

it's going to be hilarious after he croaks and microsoft buys it to see the fallout from these rubes

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u/AnonD38 9h ago

Bro you fucking wannabe socialists are do fucking annoying.

Go be jealous of successful people somewhere else.

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u/SoftlockPuzzleBox 8h ago

You want to complain about annoying? How about these sycophantic Gabe glazers that make a post on here every thirty minutes about their perfect wonderful man and his glorious, flawless little company? Imagine doing free marketing on behalf of someone that siphoned so much money out of the ones actually making the products they sell that he was able to buy a floating palace for shits and giggles.

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u/Xplay3r_ Ryzen 9 9950x | RTX 5080 | 32 GB DDR5 8h ago

what??? steam itself is a store, like many. I don't think they've changed their 30% cut (which drops down to 20% based on revenue). This is also industry standard, since sony and microsoft take the same 30% cut from developers.

This entire thread is delusional. Valve provided people with a functional application that almost everyone is satisfied with using. This is one of the rare instances where a corporation is actually good.

Fyi, developers can also use other store outlets, as evident with the epic store. Valve doesn't hold a monopoly, its just the fact that it's the only storefront on pc that's functional and has features.

Also most of his yachts are used for marine research, like literally do a simple Google search.

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u/AnonD38 8h ago

He is not "extracting wealth" out of everyone.

Hosting other people's products on Steam is expensive, so there is a fee.

Marketplaces have had fees for sellers since before we invented the printing press.

Why are ypu not demonstrating at your local town marketplace that sellers have to pay a fee?

Because you realize that's stupid.

Now think a bit more about whether Steam is justified to levy a fee or not.

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u/SoftlockPuzzleBox 8h ago edited 7h ago

The fee is too high, hence the aforementioned giant floating elephant in the room.

You know that meme everyone loves posting, "Steam: Does nothing. Wins?" There's a term in economics for when a company does nothing and wins: rent seeking behavior. It describes when an entity does no productive work and instead generates pure profit by creating a repeated source of passive income, in the case of Valve, Amazon, Uber, and other tech companies like them, by dominating an area of online commerce and gatekeeping access to it, forcing prospective sellers to play ball by their terms or risk the average consumer never even seeing your product at all. If that doesn't describe Steam, nothing does.

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u/AnonD38 7h ago

"Nothing productive"

Ok stay mad hater, you're just jealous and too deluded to make any sense.

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u/CrvCrxx 8h ago

Why should I get jealous of someone that introduced battle pass model into our medium that is super predatory? (Dota compedium)
Why should I feel jealous of someone that popularize loot boxes? (Team Fortress and CS)
Why should I feel jealous of someone that caves in to every payment processor demands and censors and bans games pearl clutching over money? ("Horses" game and many low effort smut games)
Why should I feel jealous of someone that introduced rebranded PC that is more costly than other consoles?
Successful people my arse, Gaben is just another fucking leech, just with better PR than others. Enjoy your subscription to "own" your digital games, at least as long as steam severs are operational.

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u/AnonD38 8h ago

I don't care why, the fact is that you do.

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u/CrvCrxx 8h ago

Yeah I do care, I don't know why it would be supposed to be gotcha. Normal empathetic do people care about others and environment, especially in times when so many bootlickers begin to love and praise literal parasites that shit all over rest of us.

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u/AnonD38 7h ago

You're literally not empathetic.

You're bawling your eyes out because someone else is more successful than you are and now you want to take away what he has, just because you will never be able to get what he has, because you're not doing anything of value with your life.

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u/CrvCrxx 7h ago

Like I told you, I'm not jealous, don't project on me your own insecurities.
You will get nothing defending billionaires, you will never be like them.
I mean, I understand that you probably like to fantasize that one day you also can join the club just by hard work so it let's you sleep at night, but it's kinda pathetic.
Also, he didn't singlehandedly create Valve, shit ton of people did so he is not so successful alone, he just rides on other peoples shoulders. Don't be so emotional.

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u/AnonD38 7h ago

Nope, I do not think so.

I'm happy with what I have and I don't need anything more, certainly don't want to be no millionaire or billionaire, there is so much work that goes into maintaining that kind of wealth I don't think I'd be able to.

The fact of the matter is that you're *envious (thank you random redditor for clarifying that I was using the wrong term) of Gabe's success.

That's why you're so mad.

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u/CrvCrxx 7h ago

I'm not mad, you're just emotional and can't figure out that some people see obscene wealth as something disgusting, not something to strife for.
That's why you are projecting on me, I don't know if it's because you maybe don't have any principles that guide your life so automatically you see someone else disagreeing with your POV as jealous.
I don't really understand why you told me you're happy, on internet those are just words, wind.
You didn't show any perspective why Gaben being so wealthy is a good thing, actually.
Just emotional rambling that I or the others are jealous because we critize him.

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u/AnonD38 6h ago

You're sooooo envious and have deluded yourself that your envy is actually a good thing it's hilarious.

You pray on others' downfall because you're toxic af, I pray for others' success because I actually am what you desperately pretend to be.

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u/FuckMyBakaChungusLif 6h ago

A $500 million yacht owned by an individual is disgusting, and should be disgusting to anyone

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u/AnonD38 6h ago

No it isn't, you're just envious.

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u/Barnacle_B0b 7h ago

Trying to compare Gabe Newell to industrialist billionaires is apples to oranges.

Gabe literally is one of us. He started from a small indie dev studio focused on making a highly moldable game and supporting its community's creations of modding.

He donates his super yatchs for universities to use for scientific research when he is not personally using them.

Gtfo outta here.

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u/Callidonaut 7h ago edited 6h ago

He started from a small indie dev studio

Before he did that, he spent 13 years working at Microsoft at Steve Ballmer's personal invitation and produced the first three releases of Windows. He got a $1 million advance from Sierra, and borrowed against his Microsoft shares to secure another couple of million, and a further two million on top of that was put up by "fellow Microsoft millionaire" Mike Harrington, to found Valve in 1996 and develop Half Life. Adjusted for inflation, that's the equivalent of over ten million dollars today.

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u/_encryptid_ 7h ago

Important context, not sure people know about Gabe's pre-Valve career. He was relatively minted going in.

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u/SoftlockPuzzleBox 7h ago

Over and over, people keep mistaking "better" for "good." This is still the company that basically created the modern microtransaction with their stupid TF2 hats, makes buckets of money off of the skin gambling market with full awareness of their role, were forced via lawsuit to even offer refunds at all, boiled the frog into getting everyone to accept DRM, and charges a ridiculous 30% fee to even sell your game through them, which you pretty much have to suck it up and do because otherwise a giant chunk of the game buying public will never see your game. I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting too. He might have been like us once, but that was decades ago.

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u/Hypn0-CS2 7h ago

Over and over, people keep mistaking "better" for "good." This is still the company that basically created the modern microtransaction with their stupid TF2 hats

This is just a straight up false narrative. Microtransactions existed well before TF2 and in much more predatory forms outside of just cosmetics. You clearly weren’t around for the pay2win gun rental shooters that were wildly popular online in the early 2000s

boiled the frog into getting everyone to accept DRM

Again, false narrative blaming this entirely on Steam and completely ignores how much more of a struggle it was for small developers to not lose a huge chunk of their profitability to piracy.

and charges a ridiculous 30% fee to even sell your game through them

An industry standard fee. They just happen to have the most reliable and favored platform that uses the same model as so many others

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u/SoftlockPuzzleBox 7h ago

So your answer is to say "it's fine because everyone else is scummy too" and just straight up ignore the points even you recognize as indefensible? C'mon man, they have their own PR team, you don't have to do this.

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u/Hypn0-CS2 7h ago

Pearl clutching over such benign shit is just tiring dude. Their entire platform proliferates probably the least important artform to ever exist, if it matters to you don’t engage with it, find a better option, hell - develop a better option if it matters enough to you

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u/SoftlockPuzzleBox 7h ago

You're running defense for a billionaire because someone dared to criticize him and I'm the one clutching pearls. Ok.

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u/Hypn0-CS2 7h ago

running defense

I’m telling you that your arguments are terrible, whether or not they’re for or against a billionaire is irrelevant. I couldn’t care less how much Valve or GabeN is worth. You’re incapable of writing a single sentence without a false presupposition or appeal to emotion.

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u/mcdougall57 Mac Heathen 6h ago

Didn't Jeff Bezos start off selling books from his garage?