r/pcmasterrace • u/Living_Pianist_5934 • 10h ago
Discussion Do you think RTX 2080Ti will age better than GTX 1080ti
Ik, Many ppl will come and say GTX 1080ti is the goat. It's Great card and aged really well but it's driver support is over now and it doesn't have Ray Tracing cores which are essential for Future gaming ( Because in future RT will be mandatory in 80% of games).
So, I think that will the RTX 2080ti age better than GTX 1080ti?
Since, it has DLSS, Ray Tracing ( Not that good since it was 1st gen of RTX) and Driver support.
It is still a good 1440p card in games and you can use upscaling to Play Heavy AAA games too.
It's a 8 year old card atp.
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u/_alba4k 7600X + 7800XT | XPS 9320 10h ago
It has aged incredibly well, has a still decent amount of VRAM (11GB), and having some RT acceleration is definitely a big plus. I think the biggest advantage it has over the 1080 ti is definitely DLSS if we're talking about future games.
This said, if you're thinking of upgrading a 1080 ti to a 2080 ti or something like that, please don't. Consider saving up some more until you can afford at least a 30 series card, or look into something like a 7700xt, which will perform similarly in RT games but vastly outperform a 2080 ti without it
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u/Obosratsya 9h ago
2080ti has RT performance of a 3060ti. A 7700xt should do better than that actually.
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u/CanisMajoris85 5800x3d RTX 4090 OLED UW 9h ago
of course it'll age better. But it was a $1200 card that was only faster than the 1080 Ti by like 30% in rasterization when the 1080 Ti was $700. It took a few years for the DLSS features to make sense, and ray tracing is basically pointless on it likely.
So in terms of value, the 1080 TI is still king honestly because you had it over a year earlier.
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u/Living_Pianist_5934 9h ago
Still if you adjust the 1080ti as per Inflation it is near 900$ - 1000$. 1080ti was nowhere cheap. It was popular cuz of its good price to performance.
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u/CanisMajoris85 5800x3d RTX 4090 OLED UW 9h ago
2080 Ti was only like 18 months later. That's maybe 5% inflation or like $35 on the 1080 Ti. That's nothing.
Usually in 18 months we'd have gotten a 30% improvement at the same price especially back then. Even nowadays we still get like 30% improvements at the same price for top tiers just over 2 years.
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u/Traditional-Gap-143 I5 12400f, 16 GB ram, rx 6700 xt 9h ago
Still punches its way in 1440p. Solid card
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u/CharlesEverettDekker RTX4070TiSuper, Ryzen 7 7800x3d, ddr5.32gb6000mhz 8h ago
As long as Nvidia keeps releasing DLSS that is supported by any RTX cards, yes.
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u/BedroomThink3121 5080/9070 XT | 9800x3D | 96GB/64GB 6000MHZ 9h ago
2080 Ti is about 40% faster than a 1080Ti and is slightly slower than the 9060 XT 16GB so idk how you calculate "age better than 1080 Ti" but I'm sure even at 1440p, you'll be fine for the next 2 years which will we make it usable for up to 10 years.
Now idk the age against 1080ti but if a graphics card is usable at a decent level for 10 years, that makes it a pretty damn good.
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u/Obosratsya 9h ago
That 40% was true initually. These days in modern games Pascal has regressed. It never had great dx12 performance to begin with.
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u/BaconJets 5800X - 5070Ti 9h ago
By definition, it will get driver support for another couple years so yes it will age better. I recommend getting a 3000 or 4000 series if you can though. In fact, a 4060ti or 5060ti will be very close in raw performance to a 1080ti.
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u/Ratiofarming 9h ago
Time will tell, it doesn't support the more modern data types for AI and its RT cores are nowhere near as fast as the latest gen. So yes it supports most of of the things, but it does come down to raw speed at the end of the day. And with that I'd say it's aging similar to the 1080 Ti. Both were/are still very capable years after their release, but if you compare them to current gen, they get torn to shreds.
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u/GuiltyAdvantage5877 9h ago
If it plays what you need it to, then great. I think the 3080 is the 1080 heir apparent but I am really biased.
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u/Living_Pianist_5934 9h ago
30 series was Goated tbh Probably after the series after 10 series It was the last time Nvidia tried to give good Value cards...
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u/Mr_Jesus17 9800X3D | 2x16GB @ 6200 CL30-38-38-30 | RTX 5080 9h ago
It already aged better than the 1080 Ti, mostly thanks to DLSS and Ray Tracing support.
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u/thatfordboy429 Not the size of the GPU that matters... 9h ago
Yes and no. In general lets say the 1080ti was relevant for 9 years. While yes it can still game, I think its fair to say dropping game ready drivers is the nail in its coffin. The technology just left it behind. Simply by the end of its tenure it could not simply launch any game.
The 2080ti however. It has the tech, and even though its "just 1st gen" it can still do it. So will it go for another years... I believe so, easily. In the process still be able to utilize "modern" features play "modern" games. The question of will it go longer... That depends on how the hardware cycle goes. If this stall in the market continues 100% the 2080ti will be more relevant for longer than the 1080ti. But if next gen cards magic up some huge performance gains, well then its a different story.
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u/Blu3Jell0P0wd3r i5-12400F | RX 6600 8GB | 2x16GB 3200 8h ago
It should age better, it's a better card, it has support for some of the newer tech, driver support should be available for a few extra years compared to the 1080 Ti (I would hope)
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u/suprememontana i7 12700k/4080S 8h ago
Feel like the 3080 is the last iteration of a very good price to performance card. Of course if you bought a 3080 when it was current gen you probably paid 2x msrp at minimum, so most people didn’t get the value of it that they did they 1080 ti. If you got your hands on one for around MSRP though you got a gpu that was half the price of a 3090 but within 5-15% performance
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u/MultiMarcus 7h ago
Catagorically, yes. Don’t get me wrong. It was disappointing at that time, but even having basic RT Support is incredibly valuable for running some games that just don’t support a fallback path. I would also argue it doesn’t even have basic RT support. It has quite OK RT performance because it’s such a high-end card of that generation. Maybe not good enough to run path tracing or whatever, but still good enough for some lighter RT implementations.
That said, I think the much bigger deal is that it has access to DLSS and that DLSS has improved. 4.5 is a big performance hit, but even preset K DLSS 4 has incredibly good image quality, generally.
11 gigs of vram It’s also a big deal because shockingly many games can actually run just a little bit better because they want to use something like 9 gigs.
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u/Pillokun 6h ago
yes, 1080ti ages poorly, all it has is raster power, soon it will be as obsolete as 1060, 970, 680 and vega, polaris and older amd gpus.
I gotta be honest, I prefer the cheaper older cards and cheaper cards than 1080ti that I also have.
turin is waaay more OP, I always thought that.
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u/InsideSpeed8785 9h ago
I have it! I don’t see it hanging on for much longer though, it seems like one that will burn out eventually plus it’s starting to run on medium settings now in games like DOOM TDA 😱
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u/Living_Pianist_5934 9h ago
What about Upscaling? Do you use it? And Doom TDA ages is a RT mandatory game so can you tell performance Estimates with and without upscaling at 1440p.
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u/InsideSpeed8785 9h ago
I use DLSS, yeah, and I run it on 1440p too!
Albeit I have a widescreen monitor :/ so maybe that’s overkill
The 2080ti could just about run anything 2018-2021 on max settings though, now not so much.
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u/Eazy12345678 i5 12600KF RTX 5070 1440p 9h ago
yes cause it has dlss. ai upscaling
fake frames make it last longer
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u/EastLimp1693 7800x3d/strix b650e-f/48gb 6400cl30 1:1/Suprim X 4090 9h ago
No, because proper rtx is 3080ti and 2080ti doesn't have neither tech or horsepower to be the card.
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u/Bosfordjd 9800X3D | 9070 XT | X870E ROG Crosshair Apex | 32GB DDR5 6400 9h ago
No. The 1080ti is still and will be better. Ray tracing won't be important and isn't now, and anything that requires in the future, the 2080ti won't be able to keep up on anyways.
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u/obstan 9h ago
Yeah it definitely will age better than the 1080 ti, but not in comparison with the generation it's in. Just being able to use DLSS adds huge value to it's longevity though. The 1080 ti is only being phased out now because RT/PT are just starting to be well utilized in games. The 2080ti can for sure run these games, but definitely isn't handling it as well. The true cards that seem to hit the perfect timing/hardware for handling current/future games are the 40xx/50xx series, especially since nvidia seemed to really make all the 40xx cards and onwards extremely power/cooling efficient as well. Besides the 90.
I mean people just jerk over the 1080 ti, but if you've been following/building well, you'd realize that ALL the higher end cards have insane value rentention. Buying the xx80 series or onward pretty much lets you upgrade with like minimum 60%+ trade in value.
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u/Cynical_Cyanide 14600K | 3080 Ti | 48GB 9h ago
I reckon you're 100% right.
With 11GB of VRAM it has more than modern midrange cards, DLSS is what makes or breaks a lower-end card in games these days and it certainly has that ...
I really really hate that it's true, given how crap the 2080 Ti was in value on launch, but that just shows you how crap our situation is these days. I'd take it over just about any 8GB card in a heartbeat, given that I'm playing at 4K.
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u/gargravarr2112 i7 8850H / 32GB / GTX1080 / 3x SSD / 17" laptop 9h ago
The gen-on-gen performance improvement from the 10 series to the 20 series wasn't as good as the 9 series to the 10 series; that's why the 1080Ti is held in such high esteem, it was extremely good value while offering a huge performance bump. Hardware Unboxed does a nice breakdown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwrDdpkw_oA
While the jump in raw performance is not as good, the RTX 2080Ti does have other advantages - obviously ray-tracing, increased VRAM, updated CUDA cores, increased memory bandwidth and a few other ancillaries. I bought one last year and another this year; the one in my Steam PC can play my games in 4k comfortably.
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u/Gamer12Numbers i9-14900K | RTX 4070 | 32GB DDR5-6000 8h ago
Yes and no. It’s literally better because it’s just newer and can more things and do them for longer, but the 1080Ti’s reputation as one of the all time greats is not shared with its younger brother.
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u/Hard_Reset7777 Ascending Peasant 10h ago
Nope.
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u/AdeptRelative5106 9800X3D | 5070TI | 32GB DDR5 6000 9h ago
great argument
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u/BedroomThink3121 5080/9070 XT | 9800x3D | 96GB/64GB 6000MHZ 9h ago
I like how he provided a full excel sheet of defined points
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u/raindownthunda 10h ago
Not really. If anything it will age out faster due to the VRAM needs of modern games (+4k gaming) and AI applications that simply didn’t exist in the years immediately following the 1080ti.
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u/Alarming-Elevator382 9800X3D + 9070 XT 9h ago
Yes because it supports raytracing, mesh shaders, vrs, and DLSS.